This is my original thought as well. JT is the best QB for this team because he makes the correct decision seemingly much more often. Then I think that you can try to coach better decision making into Cardale and Braxton but you can't teach JT to have Braxton's speed and quickness or Cardale's arm strength.
I'd be curious to see what Barrett's numbers look like if the "touch pass" jet sweeps were counted as runs instead of passes. I will happily cheer on whichever QB ends up playing, but I'm really glad I'm not the one who has to make the decision.
I don't really understand watching the draft for any sport. I understand the draft is important and I'll be interested in seeing the results but I don't understand watching guys walk up on stage and have their picture taken in a new hat for hours (or days in the NFL) at a time.
I think the RB rotation will be Zeke, Samuel, Dunn
The rotation at the H spot will be Marshall, Wilson, Samuel
I'm not really sure about the receivers but Marshall will probably get some time out wide too.
It seems like, just based on talent, we could bench the entire first string for the whole game and still beat Hawaii.
I am a little nervous though about the idea of playing on short rest after what will have probably been a physical game in Blacksburg after which the team flight probably won't get back to Columbus until 3-4 am Tuesday morning. Even if you're not worried about losing the game, the potential for injuries seems much higher with this kind of schedule.
I wouldn't mind seeing this lineup occasionally.
I think we could also go the complete opposite direction with something like:
PG: 6-5 Lyle
Wing: 6-7 Loving
Wing: 6-7 Bates-Diop
Wing: 6-7 Mitchell
Post: 6-11 Thompson
Lineup could have good height/length for defense and rebounding, passing ability with Lyle and Mitchell and shooting ability with Lyle, Loving and Bates-Diop.
Last season 12 guys got double-digit touches, not counting the QBs:
Elliott 301 touches
Samuel 69 touches
Marshall 63 touches
Thomas 54 touches
Wilson 39 touches
Devin Smith 33 touches
Rod Smith 25 touches
Corey Smith 21 touches
Vannett 19 touches
Warren Ball 18 touches
Spencer 17 touches
Heuerman 17 touches
My best guess at the offensive rotation this coming season, with 12 guys getting touches:
RB: Elliott, Dunn, Samuel
HB: Marshall, Wilson, Samuel
WR: Thomas, Corey Smith, Marshall, Noah Brown, James Clark, Dixon
TE: Vannett, Baugh
Chris Worley was Lee's backup last season. Was a close battle between he and Lee last spring, and was called out by Meyer as being great in practices but just never could take much playing time from Lee.
Also had a good Spring Game this year.
What I really like about this play, other than Lee just destroying that blocker, is that it looks to me like the whole defense is doing their job. Even if Lee just stands up the blocker he has outside leverage, Curtis Grant is filling nicely inside-out, Apple loses the receiver blocking him and has outside leverage and Bell also beats the same receivers block and is in good position. I don't know if this was a straight hand-off or some kind of read by Mariota, but if Mariota did keep it looks like Bennet and Bosa are in good position to stop him. Just a great overall defensive play.
FWIW McShay has Bosa, Cardale, Decker, Elliott, and Lee as first rounders next year with Washington listed in his "other players considered" group.
The safeties he has as first rounders are Ramsey from Florida State and Cravens from USC with Conner from Ole Miss in the "other players considered" group.
No mention of Bell.
In the post I see Thompson and Giddens splitting most of the minutes fairly evenly with Bell getting some mop-up time.
At the 2 forward spots (which I think are pretty interchangeable for Thad's system) I think Loving, KBD, and Tate will rotate in and all get decent minutes. If Mickey Mitchell shows he is ready to play as a freshman than he will join the rotation.
I expect Harris to play the point, Williams the off-guard and Lyle getting a lot of minutes split between both spots. If Granstaff can play defense to Matta's standards he'll probably get some minutes to add another shooter to the floor.
Juquan Lyle is listed as a shooting guard but is really more of combo guard and can play some point. Mickey Mitchell is also supposed to be a great passer and could possibly play a point-forward type of role.
I think something that happens often with this fan base (and probably others) is that by watching every play of a players season or career we see their highlights (Powell's interceptions of Devin Gardner and Blake Sims) and their bad moments (Powell giving up TD to Bama late in game). We then see highlights of a recruit or player on another team without seeing any of their bad moments and say "we need to get this freshman on the field immediately, have you seen his High School highlight tape!?" or "I wish our guy played like the safety from USC/Texas/Bama/etc., that 1 game I watched them play that guy was awesome!"
Grant wasn't a perfect player, and neither is Powell but this, at least to me, seems a bit harsh on both of them.
- Point Guard
- Lyle, Harris, Mitchell
- Kam Williams, Lyle, Granstaff
- Tate, Bates-Diop
- Loving, Mitchell
- Thompson, Giddens, Bell
A lot of potential there, but not sure what to realistically expect out of it next season.
Last season stats (per ESPN)
- QBs: 243 carries for 1234 yards
- Running Backs: 383 carries for 2512 yards
- Elliot: 273 carries for 1878 yards
- other: 110 carries for 634 yards
- H-Back: 49 carries for 277 yards
- I'm assuming this doesn't account for the "touch pass" sweep play that Marshal, Wilson, and others ran often. If someone has the information on how much yardage was accounted for by that play then they could add that to these numbers.
Not counting the "touch pass" sweep play into the running yards gives us Elliot accounting for 71.3% of Running back carries and 74.7% of Running back yards, 40.4% of total carries and 46.7% of total yards.
If Cardale is our starting QB, I'd assume the QB runs less than if Braxton or J.T. are playing. Whether those extra plays end up being passes, or RB or HB runs is anybodies guess.
I think that our biggest advantage on offense this season will be our incredible depth, and I hope we use it. Spread the runs around between Zeke, Samuel, Marshal, Wilson & whoever wins the HB2 role (Dunn, Ball, Weber, whoever).
I am a big Mike Conley fan and am very happy there are former Buckeye's doing well in the NBA.
I think by most peoples "eye test" Curry is the better player.
Looking at the stats this season: Curry played more games, more minutes per game, shot a higher FG%, higher 3P%, higher FT%, had more points, assists, rebounds and steals per game. If you want to look at advanced stats Curry had a higher PER (player efficiency rating) and a higher TS% (true shooting percentage).
Can't blame Donovan for taking this job. It can't be often that a first-time NBA coach comes into his first job with 2 legit MVP candidates on the roster. If Durant and Westbrook are healthy next season, is there any chance the Thunder aren't at least a playoff team next season?
Is Brady's arm for the deep ball not there anymore or does he just not use it because that is not the type of receivers they have? An honest question, I'm no fan of Tom Brady. When Brady had a true deep-threat in Moss, that seemed to work pretty good.
I'm not sure what else Baltimore might need in the first round, but pairing Devin's speed and ability to track the long-ball with Flacco's strong arm seems like a good match at the end of round 1.
I'm surprised that there are not more "not sure" answers. A list of things we don't know about next season:
- in the post
- What kind of impact can Giddens have as a freshman
- Trevor Thompson averaged 5 points, 5 boards, and 1 block in 16 minutes as a freshman at Virginia Tech. Can he provide or improve on those numbers for OSU after sitting out a year?
- on the wing
- Will we get pre-suspension or post-suspension play out of Marc Loving?
- Can KBD be a consistent threat?
- Can Jae'Sean Tate go from "energy guy" finishing the great passes by Russell, to being a focal point and leader of the team?
- Can Mitchell and Grandstaff make an impact as freshman?
- at guard
- Can Kam Williams show some of the scoring ability he flashed during the cupcake portion of least season?
- Can AJ Harris be a Big Ten quality point guard as a freshman? We don't have any other true point guards on the roster.
- What can Lyle provide as a freshman?
Now I'm hopeful that most of those questions can be answered positively, but I just really have no idea what to expect out of this group next season.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is exactly what we did last season. A d-lineman would come out for an extra DB. This is when we'd see a lot of Darron Lee as a pass rusher.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the d-line you mention in obvious passing situations this season. Bosa and Washington on the inside with other pass rushers on the outside (I'm thinking Holmes or Hubbard on one side and Perry or Lee as the blitzer on the other) would be a nightmare for opposing QBs. We already saw last season that Bosa can be effective lined up over a guard.
It seems to me that with an experienced o-line, there is not reason to not have more blocking schemes installed. If we have another season where we have only 1 or 2 returning on the o-line I wouldn't be surprised for the run game to rely more heavily on the inside zone.
Did anyone else notice the comments under the picture when you click on the twitter photo?
I guess that at full speed the guy in the orange shirt didn't really have a chance to stop the ball, but in slow-motion here it really looks like he is letting the ball hit her.
Kam Williams was averaging 10-11 points a game in the non-conference schedule, Loving was averaging near 12 per prior to his suspension, Thompson was disappointing (as was about everyone) against Wisconsin but has still been averaging 11 since the start of February, Tate has averaged around 11-12 since being put in the starting line-up.
There hasn't been a lot of evidence this year to show that all these guys can put it together at the same time, but enough guys have shown flashes this season that if they do ever hit stride at the same time along with Russell being himself this team could be dangerous.