Actually, Tressel did keep the last scholarship for the 2002 class for Smith. He already had Zwick, so Tressel took Smith as an athlete as the last member of the class. Again, rewarding a local Ohio kid who worked for a scholarship. It was actually the start of the Glenville pipeline.
Again, I'm not saying they "have to" enroll early. I'm saying plan for it, so you can sign the financial aid agreement and secure your spot in the class. If life happens and you can't enroll until the following August, then so be it. Your spot is guaranteed with the financial aid agreement. Go enjoy your senior year. My point is from a recruit's perspective, in the current system, how to guarantee their spot rather than getting screwed over at the last minute like Erik Swenson.
I also disagree with your college analogy. Part of picking your school is the education aspect. Is a Stanford degree worth more than Ohio State's? Most definitely. Is Ohio State's degree worth more than Kent State's? Absolutely. Not all college degree's are equal and if you don't think recruits are taking into account the education aspect of what a degree from a particular school is worth, you're kidding yourself. Only 2% of division 1 football players go to the NFL. 98% of college athletes are banking on their college degree. Where you go to college matters. They are not all created equal or as you insinuate to "just go to a different college." Maybe that school has the best petroleum program (Brendan Ferns), or another program. My point, it's not as simple as saying, "it's not like they aren't going to college anymore."
I realize we're talking about high school. My analogy about college taking 5 years instead of 4 is that life happens and even with the best intentions of enrolling early, it may not happen due to other circumstances.
I also agree they shouldn't have to "intend" to enroll early to guarantee their spot. There should be a better way. I'm looking at how the system is currently. I'm looking at this from the perspective of the recruit and parent. Ohio State tuition is $10,037 and room/board another $11,666, so $21,703 minimum a year, or $86,812 over the course of 4 years on a 4 year scholarship. Not only are you considering the scholarship, but you also have to consider earning potential after college, where people with a college degree earn more than $1 million over their lifetime than people who do not have one. What if you're a recruit who can't afford college without the scholarship? Now, you're not just talking about the $86,812, but the $1 million more in lifetime earnings. You're telling me that you wouldn't plan on enrolling early to secure this type of education, let alone the development they would receive as an athlete?
And football programs don't lie to these recruits? Let's be realistic here. It's also not cut and dry on when you intend to enroll. Most people "intend" on finishing college in 4 years, but many take 5 years. Does that make their intentions on initially finishing in 4 years any less honest? Life happens and things often don't go as you intend them to. Thus, why I think you could easily intend to enroll early and not.
As you mentioned, recruiting is a slimy game; however, even with a mid year financial agreement, the recruit can still go elsewhere. See Isaiah Johnson or Matt Womack. And if the school is worried about unlimited contact and NCAA violations, then just abide by the normal regulations on contact and the school has nothing to worry about.
As recruiting is a slimy game, and watching a few choice colleges screw over 18 year old kids, I have no problems with the recruits turning the tables with this mid year agreement. This becomes even more important with Big Ten schools and the 4 year scholarship offers. If you're a committed recruit, and the school won't let you sign the mid year agreement, it's likely you need to reevaluate your choice as they are not 100% committed to you.
I corrected it to "tear." My apologies.
I'm not saying for a recruit to "lie" on their resume. You take the classes to possibly enroll early, which is all the NCAA requires to sign a mid year agreement. You need to be on pace to enroll early. It's very clear in the NCAA wording it is "intends" to enroll early. You can change your mind after signing the agreement to enroll the following August. If I'm mistaken, then please tell me as I don't know all the ins and outs.
I'm also not saying a school should worry about unlimited contact. If it's your dream school and the recruit is 100%, they aren't going anywhere else. Unlimited contact all you want and the university won't get in trouble because you are going there. It is just protecting their scholarship, so the school can't change their mind.
Guarantano is from New Jersey. Birm specifically said an Ohio recruit.
I'm getting hammered on this post, but on Twitter, there are a ton of OSU fans equally as mad. As you mention, 50% coming from OSU fans. If that many of your own fans are upset about it, it generally has to be pretty bad. I've even seen 11W staff, and other OSU media types, calling the entire situation ugly.
I agree my post was probably quick to judgment and most of you are likely right. However, all of you are talking about facts, and I hope something comes out which clarifies the situation, but public perception matters. And in the public eye, with recruits, OSU is getting hammered for this by everyone.
Let me give you an example: let's say you falsely accuse someone; however, it later comes out you were cleared of all charges. What do people remember, the accusation and huge story, or the small retraction printed on page 20 with the facts. This is going to hurt us with recruits, regardless of the facts.
I was checking at USC sites and they're definitely not near as confident in landing Gustin. I would say the average is 50/50 that it could go either way on their site. I'll give them credit though, they made me laugh. My favorite line "I'm worried. Look at those beady eyes (referring to Urban) and smirk on his face. Meyer could sell a smelly turd to a bathroom attendant."
Does Isaiah Prince end up in 2015 class?
Does KJ Hill end up in 2015 class?
Does Terry Beckner Jr. end up in 2015 class?
Does Porter Gustin end up in 2015 class?
Are you anticipating any signing day surprises, both good and bad?
Do you think the 2016 Ohio recruit, who you referred to earlier this week, will announce decision soon?
Urban did visit Luke Farrell today, so I'm going to go with Farrell.
I think Tom Herman leaving would definitely have an impact on recruiting, thus the thread. If you don't think it would have an impact, you're being naive. I also specifically asked how his potential departure would impact recruiting. Birm has specifically cited Herman leaving would impact Burrow, let alone other recruits, thus the thread.
Not sarcastic at all. While recent QB's have not fared as well, the MAC has a rich history of NFL QB's.
Current QB's in NFL:
Keith Wenning, Cardinals, Ball State
Zac Dysert, Broncos, Miami
Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers, Miami
Bruce Gradkowski, Steelers, Toledo
Past QB's in NFL:
Charlie Frye, Browns, Akron
Byron Leftwich, Jaguars, Marshall
Chad Pennington, Jets, Marshall
There were also other who were great college QB's who converted to other positions in the NFL (Josh Harris, Browns, Bowling Green, put Urban Meyer on map as Spread QB; Josh Cribbs, Browns, Kent State).
Here are additional articles going even as far to call the MAC the Conference of Quarterbacks. Perhaps you should do a bit of research before mocking someone.
I would completely disagree with you on this. The MAC has a reputation for grooming great NFL quarterbacks.