Thanks for the update! Just adore this young man!
To answer: physicians services. Physician must be affiliated with a hospital (staff membership) in order to receive payments from third party payers (healthcare insurance). However, not all patients of the hospital have insurance. Physician isn't employed by or paid by hospital. Hospital requires that physician provide services to un insured patient. Physician doesn't get paid, yet service has been provided under obligation by hospital. Everyday, all day, all over the country. Billions of free service. Docs can't "write it off" (illegal), theyreceive no discount or reduced student loan debt. No benefit whatsoever. It's pure charity, or slavery.
You just exposed your inherent bias and incorrectly re-stated the argument.
The athletes have every freedom to start their own teams/leagues etc. Just like you or I, after HS (or for that matter at age 16) can start a business if we so choose.
There are no restraints. We are all equally free to do those things. The fact that very few have the resources to do so doesn't change the fact that we are free to do it.
The student athlete CHOOSES to participate in the existing organization (university) and thereby accepts the terms.
The schools would have to sacrifice any state or federal funding, grants (including research) and that's a LOT mor money than football and basketball will ever make for a University.
It seems that there are many who forget that sports are not the reason the Universities exist.
They have choices, just like the rest of us. Those choices are based on their skills and talent, just like the rest of us. They are not slaves or indentured servants.
Many continue to post "yes, but if they WANT to play....." WANT, not have to.
I chose my profession. It has cost me a lot, both financially and personally. But they were my choices. I've actually done the math and I would be better off financially now had I simply remained a grocery store cashier (my first job) rather than college, grad school and professional school. But I wouldn't have been satisfied.
Let's not cry and whine because young people in America have choices. There were times not so long ago when they didn't.
Ask a physician what they were paid during residency sometime. I'm sure most would have liked to be able to pay the bills and eat reasonably well while working 100+ hours a week. Better still if society/government would chip away at their educational debt every time that physician provided service to an uninsured and/or indigent patient.
But then again, life ain't fair is it?
It's called delayed gratification. It's inherent to the process of going to college.
They get a stipend for food and expenses in addition to their board (which is their meal plan on campus).
It's significantly more than any academic scholarship recipient receives or any graduate teaching assistant. They are also compensated better than students in the student-work programs.
The large majority of the student athletes are not complaining. Keep in mind that there are no rules/laws that keep a student athlete from taking student loans if needed for other expenses.
An athletic scholarship is NOT a paid position. Simply because the student's effort generates revenues doesn't warrant additional recompense. If that were the case, any student who performs well academically should be compensated by the U as they contribute to the reputation of the school and thereby add to the revenue stream.
Point being: these are universities and students. Either eliminate college affiliated football and basketball and create minor league teams where there are no academics/students/alums etc and pay the athletes as professionals or simply continue on and create a cost of living stipend policy.
No one requires these kids to go to college. They choose to. If they don't like it, they can start their own teams/leagues etc.
Devil's advocate: Nearly 20 years at PSU and they didn't give him the HC job? And he hasn't been pulled away previously? Is he past his prime?
Also: would love to see a young guy, fairly recently retired from NFL...in the image of Vrabel, that the kids can relate to. Is there anyone out there?
Nope. There's a lot more to performance than statistics.
I still contend that his play calling was the issue. The pass game is so very dependent on timing and rhythm. It seemed that OSU's offense performed optimally in their "hurry up" mode when athletes could, well, be athletes. Execution was sweet.
Herman took too bloody long over thinking it. It threw the guys off and gave the defense the upper hand in both Big championship and Clemson game. The tight ends were doing a great job and Philly certainly did his job. I think Herman simply wasn't accustomed to utilizing the weapons he had, at times wasn't willing to take risks. He put Braxton in situations that limited the kids options. It's been amazing to watch Braxton, Hyde and the o-line bail him out. But Herman and Urban will have to do better if they want championships.
I have never tolerated blaming the kids when I see the kind of effort, talent & skill I see on offense. In contrast, I have defended the defensive coaches simply because I'm not yet seeing the effort, talent and skill from our defensive secondary athletes (yet).
Any time. But be prepared with evidence to support your choices.
Bowl games are a pretty poor source of comparison. The only game that matters is the NC. Otherwise the bowls are intended as rewards for the players/coaches/families. The sports media creates the comparisons simply because they have 24 hours of TV time to fill and nothing meaningful to say.
Allowing the talking heads to influence your emotions and/or state of mind is simply capitulating to the power of TV...giving up free will.
I watched the Big Ten a lot this year. I also saw a good bit of SEC/ACC games. The Big 10 teams were no worse, nor particularly better, than the other conferences throughout the season. I did not see as much Big 12 or Pac 10 as in the past (in fairness).
OSU has damn fine offensive talent. Stoppable only by athlete mistakes (which happen) and poor coaching during the game. It was pretty fun to watch! OSU's defense has been plagued by any number of problems throughout the season. The athletes inherent talent and the great coaching effort gave OSU the chance for victory in every game. We lost 2.
And life goes on. Turn the TV off and read a book, go bowling, have sex....it'll give you new perspective!
I'm simply playing devil's advocate here, cause it's an interesting discussion. I solidly agree that MSU does more with "less", I've made that statement in a prior post. But that then begs the question: What does a coach at tOSU do? Recruit 4&5 star guys and meet your short term job requirements or 2-3 star guys who are more intelligent, have better fundamental learning skills, personality traits and work ethic?
Fan base would be livid, media would be all over us if we weren't in the top 5 nationally of "star rankings".
I would be interested in a head to head comparison of MSU's defense v. OSU defense in physical, academic and personality traits. Won't happen, but could be interesting. So again, let's realize that as a fan base we have conflicting expectations for the coaches and the kids. Gotta take the 5 star, but he may not be able to handle both academics and football at equal levels.
You can bring a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
Basing on argument on the player's recruiting status coming in holds very little water. Frankly, I think they should rank the HS kids by IQ and ACT/SAT scores as ell as physical talent.
As far as "next man up", we haven't had enough depth for that on defense and it's quite possible that the freshman coming in simply were even less able to manage the football learning curve along with the freshman in college learning curve.
I think it's time our fan base "backs off" the kids and the coaches. While I'm critical of in game calls, I can't see calling for someone's job when one simply has no idea where the problems really exist.
From my observations over the last 2 years, very few schools have had stellar defenses. Is that the result of a decline in physical talent? I doubt it. I t makes me wonder if we're seeing the result of declining educational standards. Defense is much harder intellectually than offense (IMO) and simply takes longer to learn enough and gain enough experience such that performance is as good as we have seen in years past.
It could also be argued that this is a year of highly efficient offenses. It's been fun to watch when highly efficient offense (OSU) meets very smart and well executed defense (MSU). It's OK to lose folks. It's not death.
Have you considered that it was simply damn fine defense by Clemson? They did a great job at time in "masking" and making their own quality reads.
I always find it interesting that many of us, when critiquing a play only see one side, usually the negative for our team, but fail to look at the positive the opposition did to match or beat the play.
I certainly have my criticisms from our losses (as well as our wins) but I refrain from criticizing the players. Just something I was taught when I was young. It's a team game and these are young people who have worked harder and have challenged themselves to a higher standard than most of us ever will in our lifetime (although some of us may, but that's not most who criticize).
I thought the game changer was coaching again (as in MSU). Offensive coaching. Surprised? Objectively, our defense was not going to stop Clemson on every series. They did enough to give the Buckeyes an opportunity to win.
The offense performed nearly optimally during the "up tempo" series. That has been what we've witnessed all season. It kept the Clemson defense from anticipating and therefor lead to our advantage. Unfortunately, Urban and Herman abandoned it, putting Braxton, Hyde and the OL in difficult situations. During the up tempo series XBrax hit several passes crisply, moved the offense and the OL was able to win in the trenches. Then they started taking 25-30 seconds to send the play in and/or change it. I could have sent in the optimal defense in that time. Reminded me of the Big Championship game.
I'm pretty satisfied with our season and hope that I get to enjoy another season of Braxton's amazing talent. Let's never forget that this young man has represented tOSU, his family and himself with integrity and class.
It's Ok...it was a bowl game after all. Generally meaningless.
Herman and Urban. The talent on offense is there. No excuse not to use it better.
Wilson supposed to block/blind side
That's on the O-lineand the non block by Wilson
These plays are too predictable
Couple of pretty touch passes on that series.
Hurry up offense please..it works