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Comment 21 hours ago

I do think it was a calculated risk.  I also think that the calculation was based on the public's "caring" of these cases in the past.  This isn't the first DV case and it won't be the last - the only difference between this case and every other case is that we actually get to see it happen.  I think this visualization is what caused this incident to go viral.  I think the biggest concern at the time was how to punish Rice for something that our legal system did not punish him for without getting caught in a legal extravaganza with Rice or the players union.  Then once this decision was made, it obviously snowballed.  

You can call him a dishonest coward, but we don't really know him, nor do we know what we would have done if we were in his shoes and behind the closed doors.  And sure, he can step down, but what makes the next guy better than him?  How many high profile people do we see repeating the same stupid stuff that others have gotten in trouble for?  People with that much power and that much money eventually regress to the norm.  I really don't think Goodell was trying to cover anything up.  I just think he was trying to balance all of the pressures set upon him by this case.  The way I think about it, It's not all that different than what happened to Tressel, minus the actual crimes being "covered up."

BTW, I'm not worried about the DVs.  I have enjoyed our discussion and the fact that we can do it passionately yet respectfully.  People that DV either of us still haven't learned that dissenting opinion and debate are what makes this site what it is.    They'd probably rather DV anything with substance and just have an entire site dedicated to gifs of monkeys falling over after they smelled their finger which was up their butt.

Comment 18 Sep 2014

I will repeat my point that the NFL is under numerous internal and external pressures in its existence as a business. 

Just sit for a minute and think about it.  Think about the consequences for a business that goes against the findings of our legal system. Think about consequences that could be faced if a business releases confidential or sensitive material or information regarding its employee. All I'm trying to get you to recognize if the fact that the NFL is a business and ALL business decisions have consequences. It's entirely possible that the NFL did what it did as a calculated lesser evil, choosing between public faux outrage if hard evidence surfaced or facing legal ramifications from the players union. 

Comment 18 Sep 2014

Exactly.  However, if they sever ties with these players than they will have to deal with lawsuits and appeals from the Players Union.  They can't win.

Comment 18 Sep 2014

Or, or, or.....

Novel idea: Blame the players for their stupidity in their actions.

The NFL is operating in these instances as a business.  They are trying to balance all kinds of internal and external pressures.

Comment 17 Sep 2014

Like I said, other players could change games. Hyde changed games and then took control. Few players could match Hyde's consistency. 

Comparing Wells with Hyde career wise- they had similar total yards with wells getting more touches, giving Hyde the edge per touch.  Hyde also had 11 more TDs. 

Just looking at their last year, both missed games. Wells had 1200 yards, Hyde had 1600 total yards averaging almost 7.4 !!!! Ypc

Comment 17 Sep 2014

True. But he was always playing hurt. That and I don't think wells could take over a game like Hyde. Hyde did have a great OL but he rarely fumbled it or was tackled for a loss. 

Hyde is the only player I can think of that could take over a game completely. Other players could change it, but Hyde could absolutely take it over. 

Comment 17 Sep 2014

Yes. Really. Not saying other players didn't cross my mind but Hyde was a durable, dominant player. I would have to call Troy Smith and Mo C a close second. Ginn was fast but he dropped a lot of balls. Gamble was a great athlete but he was high risk, high reward. Doss was a solid player but he wasn't always visible. Beanie was awesome but not durable. 

Comment 17 Sep 2014

I'm an old guy, but I've gotta go with Carlos Hyde.  He's the best Buckeye that I can remember in quite some time.

Comment 17 Sep 2014

In one paragraph you argue about Ray Rice not getting enough punishment, however, recall that he received a punishment that reflected the outcome of his due process - essentially no punishment.  In the next paragraph you argue about reserving judgement until due process has occurred.  Your argument resembles that of the general public.  Ironically, your argument is at least as flawed as your perception and the public's perception of the NFL's handling of all of this.

Comment 17 Sep 2014

Yea, BUT the two games also happened because there were no charges brought forward, just a behavior modification course.  So while we're all like "NFL this and NFL that," we're losing sight of the fact that there were absolutely no legal ramifications.  That is my point - that the NFL was merely trying use our legal system as a guide.  

The NFL is its own entity, however, and in order to understand its actions, we must understand and recognize how often the NFL, as a business, gets sued/appealed/some action that causes it to spend more money on legal stuff.  Without any legally binding criminal charges, I'm not sure how the NFL could justify penalty without getting sued or some other course of action.  Then you throw in the public outrage and you've got the pickle they are in now. 

Comment 17 Sep 2014

You're 50 years ahead of your time.

But I think the NCAA should move to a relegation-based hierarchy system.  No way it will happen though.  

Comment 17 Sep 2014

Not only mob mentality and mob justice, but there's just a general failure of society to attempt to understand both sides of the story and get out of their own shoes.  

Comment 17 Sep 2014

Hitting your kid with a stick as a disciplinary measure and rape are not even remotely similar.

Wait.... what?  You must have gone to law school, no way you can expect a lay person to deduce that one.