Thanks - I'm not usually one to buy into this kind of thing, but as others have pointed out, something just feels fishy about all of this. Why has this offer stood without moving forward for hours now? Why did we make this offer so quickly to a coach who seemingly does not have the credentials or record that show he's ready to coach at Ohio State? Why was Thad let go so unexpectedly at such an unusual time if there wasn't a big coach at the ready who would be a significant improvement?
I'll add that the flight was chartered by Executive Jet Management, the same that chartered this flight between Omaha and Columbus late last night. There are absolutely no direct commercial flights from Roanoke to Columbus.
I still think Buzz Williams may be in the mix, based on this flight record from Roanoke to Columbus on Tuesday evening.
We have very different definitions of "a bit of a mess."
There is no group of people, institution, or entity I respect less than Penn State. I want the Michigan Wolverines to lose football games, but I want Penn State University to crumble to the ground into rubble like an ancient city razed by Vikings or a Mongol horde.
This isn't talked about enough. THIS YEAR was the year to right the ship. Do we just ignore the fact that he recruited a bunch of players that ended up being "uncoachable?" I'm so frustrated that we're accepting this as good enough.
I was mentally drafting an angry reply about making excuses before I saw you're a Rutgers fan. Best of luck in your next game, I think it would be hilarious and awesome if Rutgers managed to win this tournament.
The only thing more pathetic than this team is the fact that it's going to be tolerated for another season.
I will never, ever get over that shit.
I agree with the sentiment, but I think this should be reserved for the original trainwrecks in West Lafayette. If anything Ohio State can be compared to Purdue Football, then God help us all.
You may be dumbfounded, we're fed up. I hear NC State is looking for a new coach.
I agree that Ohio State is not a "loyalty and feelings" school. Think about a school like St. Joseph's - remember them? In 2004, they came into the tournament #1 with a 27-1 record under coach Phil Martelli, who is currently in his 22nd year with the school. At St. Joseph's, good teams from a decade ago and gratitude for being a good guy can keep you around for that long. Ohio State is not St. Joseph's and the last four years don't cut it.
Incidentally, that one loss for St. Joseph's was in the Atlantic 10 tournament to Thad Matta's Xavier Musketeers, which almost certainly contributed to Matta's hiring at Ohio State weeks later. It's the circle of life.
2010-11: 34-3, Sweet Sixteen
2011-12: 31-8, Final Four; worse record, but further in the tournament, so I'd consider this an improvement
2012-13: 29-8, Elite Eight
2013-14: 25-10, First Round
2014-15: 24-11, Second Round; further in the tournament, but this is hardly a meaningful improvement. I consider this a decline.
2015-16: 21-14, NIT Second Round
2016-17: 15-13, TBD
So I'd consider that five seasons of regression. The argument for Thad is that we had a high ceiling from which to start this decline - when you make a Final Four, it's hard to call the season a failure when you can't replicate that success.
But does Thad deserve one more year to "right the ship?" I say absolutely not. That was this year - purging half of the roster last offseason was the hail mary, and this was the recovery season - not to mention the Big Ten is weak this season, so even a mediocre team should have been able to finish in the top half of the conference. This season has been an even more embarrassing disaster than last year, and the recruiting trajectory remains grim. Thad's a good guy and he's done some great things for Ohio State basketball but that does not earn a lifetime pass to be the head coach.
Pat Narduzzi might be the third crankiest coach, but he's number 1 on the most immature, petulant, childish coach list. His behavior during the Pitt-VT game last year was incredible. I never realized what an ass that guy was when he was in the box at MSU, but the guy is a grade A douchebag.
If we were having this conversation in 2014 or 2015 I'd be more willing to be patient. This is our fourth consecutive season of mediocrity, and I disagree that we are better: we have already lost as many Big Ten games this season as we did in the 2014-15 and 2015-16 seasons, with six more conference games coming up. I like Thad, I really do, but I'll be very disappointed if he's back next year.
And speaking of "one more year" - that's this year, this is the year of benefit of the doubt. Last offseason when a ton of players were jettisoned, I reluctantly got on the "one more year" bandwagon - and here we are, stuck in another lousy season. No more years, Thad.
So we're at the point where a 4 point home win over Rutgers and a remote possibility of a tournament invitation is good enough? Having our "signature wins" be against a projected 8 seed (MSU) and a 10 seed (Minnesota) is a joke. I disagree that Matta deserves another season.
Here's to feeling good, all the time.
I count 25 decommitments since 9/27. Do I just not know what "commitment" means?
God I hate Tom RInaldi. "There's emotion on your face, why?" What a douchebag.
So do fans who refuse to acknowledge shortcomings and weaknesses until something humiliating like this happens. I've been getting told to relax for two years, and I had a feeling it would take a big loss like this to jar people out of that. Even in my pessimism, that loss was worse than I ever imagined it would be.
Jim Calhoun has the ugliest voice I've ever heard.
I just don't understand the perspective that criticisms are only allowed if you could do better. If my surgeon leaves a scalpel inside me, oh well that's okay no criticisms allowed because I couldn't have operated on myself any better.
Damn, Rece Davis is calling him out right now during halftime of the UL-UK game. "Like a petulant child."
You know, I started hearing people talk about this and I thought, there's no way it's that bad.
It is that bad. What a prick. The trip is egregious enough, but his reaction afterwards is incredible.
Hell of a start.