Great sentiment, but Raymont had shown flashes before his senior season. He just had talented guys in front of him. The unfortunate thing with Curtis Grant is that he hasn't showed much to this point. If he becomes a really good player, it would be out of left field. It doesn't mean he can't do it, it just means we haven't seen anything to give the impression that he will. I hope for his sake, it comes together for him.
Sullinger was not a 4 at OSU and isn't a stretch 4 as a pro where he is a more prototypical power forward. He is a skilled big man though.
Both you guys are showing your age by referring to BW3. They lost the "weck" in the name years ago. I remember it well. lol
You're right about MSG and Barclays. However, the Prudential Center is a great venue, despite OSU's loss to UK there a few years ago, and downtown Newark is fine.
Not sure why anyone thinks this is to make Maryland or Rutgers feel good or wanted or anything. This is about expanding the footprint. Honestly, could the ACC or Big East host a tournament in Chicago or Indy? No. The conference is flexing muscles no other conference has. I can't wait to see the B1G Tournament in MSG!
That's UL's conference schedule. OSU's conference schedule should be quite daunting in its own right.
It amazes me how no one has mentioned Tim Spencer. Reminds me how young most of the other posters here must be. Spencer contributed as a freshman. He played TB and FB. He could catch the ball out of the backfield. And no one could catch him...just ask the Duke defenders left in his wake for an 82-yard run to start that game (1981, I think). And in the 1982 Holiday Bowl, he was unstoppable on a team that had a lot of weapons and a young Mike Tomczak who was just rounding into a solid QB.
As for the OL, neither Decker nor Elfein played. That means you had new players at every position for a unit that requires synchronicity. So I'm less concerned that they struggled. Add in Warriner's track record and the fact that the group did seen to settle down after a shaky start, and I'm OK with what we saw.
I would include Scoonie's steal to seal the game vs. St. John's. Would love to include his block in MSG too. Erick Barkley must have Scoonie Penn nightmares!
Can we leave Joe Bauserman alone now? The guy wasn't a good QB and should not have started. That's an indictment of Jim Bollman and Nick Siciliano, not Joe. Their incompetence was fully revealed that season.
If Joe's a ski instructor, good for him. Glad he found something he loves and good luck to him.
Nah. No hoops coach should ever lose 15 at UK in other than an extreme outlier year. Just like no football coach at Ohio State should regularly lose 3-4 games.
Buckeyes over 40 should remember Columbus area players from the 80s - Byron Lee and Michael Kee, who were both from Eastmoor. Bill Matlock was from Beechcroft, I think. Vince Workman was from Dublin. Everett Ross was a local product too, maybe Eastmoor. Brent Johnson was from Bexley. Tony Giuliani was a City League product IIRC. And Tony Fenstermaker was a walk-on receiver from Olentangy when they were in the CBL. New Albany was in the CBL then too, and largely considered to be in the sticks.
Times sure have changed.
No apologist. Look at the graph...he gets the bad AND the good.
And ultimately, the guy at the top gets some responsibility. If that was a dysfunctional defensive staff, he hired them.
At the end of the season, Meyer, Ash, and Fickell all deserve credit if this defense turns it around.
You have to trust what the other guy will do. If you don't, mistakes happen.
Great job by Craft! IMO should be three time winner.
Good stuff. Gonzalez is the real deal.
Just an editing point, St. Peter's Prep is in Jersey City, not New Jersey City. Easy mistake to make.
I thought the same thing. Kyle whiffed on that point IMO.
As you said, OSU never gets blown out. That plus OSU's ability to win ugly is why higher seeds do not want to see the Buckeyes.
But OSU's scoring droughts keep lesser teams in games. That makes them vulnerable to a first round loss.
You gave the winning formula. Will they execute it consistently or will they get away from what they do?
They don't have grit? That's how they won today.
Completely nailed it. Fans grew frustrated because these two couldn't become what we wanted them to be. Let's appreciate who they are and what they accomplished. Thank you Aaron and Lenzelle.
Quick fact check - I don't think they played with Evan Turner. That would have been a team with Turner, Lighty, Buford, Diebler, and Sullinger. I like the odds of THAT team winning it all in 2011.
I thought that, for the first time all season, OSU tried to play possession football, and the team looked completely uncomfortable trying to do it. What the offense did that hurt the defense was turnovers and 3-and-outs. If OSU used more tempo, I think it gets tougher for Clemson to play the kind of defense they did. And even if the drive stalls, you can win the field position battle with a couple of first downs before the punt...which reminds me, great job again by Cameron Johnston.
Ross - Do you think Meyer/Herman regret not using Hyde more in the 4th (again)? And were more throws to the TE available given that the LBs and safeties were crashing the LOS so aggressively?
St. John's Arena? No, St. JOHN Arena. Named for long time AD, Lynn St. John.
In game adjustments are different than core philosophy. His point, which Ross Fulton has made several times, is that the Fickell/Withers defense doesn't seem to have a single core philosophy to build on.
As bad as the lack of in-game adjustments are, the lack of a consistent base defense is the true issue. You can play vanilla and still be successful. DCs like Jim Heacock and Norm Parker made careers out of that.
Fickell may need to go, but I honestly think he has better years ahead of him. IMO it was a matter of too much responsibility too soon.
No. When you're down athletes, you do not rely on your athletes. You use scheme to take away what the offense wants to do. When you get screen after screen, you must take that play away. As for leadership, leaders emerge when you put them in a position to make plays.
Fickell may not deserve to be fired, I defer to Meyer on that, but your explanation makes no sense.
FWIW, as bad as this defense played, OSU had a chance to win both games at the end and had the ball in plus territory with time to score. Add four second half turnovers too.
My point...the offensive players and coaches need to look in the mirror too. They did no favors for a defense they knew was shaky anyway and played without Spence and Roby.
Furthermore, bubble screens are supposed to be a constraint play that only works when the defense is misaligned or cheating toward the run. In Ohio State's case, the bubble screen was a play Clemson was able to exploit all night long, essentially becoming Clemson's base play.
The inability to deal with screens and other misdirection has been a persistent problem over the last two years.
Nicholas - Other than the five hours after the game part, this reads to me like an endorsement of major staff changes for the defense.