I would actually say Krenzel is underrated. He never quarterbacked a perfect game, but the guy was a big play machine. When the game was on the line, he was consistently money.
To be fair, Pryor beat the three worst UM teams I have ever seen.
He didn't fall apart. Teams just learned how to defend him in that game. What an abrupt about face that game took. Every team after that did what MSU did. Either Todd or Tressel couldn't seem to adjust.
I think you got the down votes because the two guys who belong at the top of the list are at the bottom. Pryor and Miller are wonderful athletes, but neither accomplished what Smith and Krenzel did. Ultimately, QB is played with the head not the legs.
Play effectiveness is definitely a product of the competition, but for me the play calls were spot on vs. KSU.
But this seems to be Herman - up and down. In tight moments, he can lose the feel of a game. That's a tough art form for most OCs. TH gets it right a lot. Still he can make you scratch your head at the most important times in a game. He abandoned the run altogether at the end of the VT game when there was enough time, VT was zone blitzing every play, and OSU had just had success running the ball for the tying TD. Tough to figure him sometimes.
Still, you are right about the dropped passes. Corey Smith's dropped TD was a killer.
No. Lenzelle Smith was a pretty good player. Strong rebounder for his size. Solid defender. Generally unselfish play. Streaky shooter. The fact that he hit his ceiling has nothing to do with my appreciation of him as a player. Unfortunately the team needed more from him this past season than he could deliver consistently.
He's a good Buckeye and I'll remember him for that.
No, Ray Lucas does not bug me. He's being doing analysis in NYC for the Jets and Rutgers for a number of years and has done a good job. BTN is fortunate to have him.
Kyle - great as always. Would love to see OSU run the triple option version that Smith used against UNC. A little OT, but I'm still a little peeved about the play calling vs. VT. Could you discuss how OSU can still run power against a Bear front? It seems to me that OSU might have had better luck going man-to-man with the OL against that front. Yes, there would be some plays for zero or minus yards, but if you pop Elliott or Samuel past the LOS, they could be gone. Just curious about your thoughts.
Very interested to see the hoops team all the way around.
How will Scott do with no Craft?
Will Thompson take the glimpses he shows beyond the highlight dunks and take the next step?
Is the talk of McDonald really making progress this summer just hype?
Will the frosh meld with the seniors?
Can Russell and Diop adapt the college game easily?
Will Tate be able to find time?
Was Bell a reach or a diamond in the rough?
Will Amir wake up?
Love Thad Matta.
Wore them at home against UM in 2012. Last year OSU wore the all whites as the road team.
What does OSU want to establish on offense? Does anyone know? For two seasons this team was a spread to run power offense. Why not try to establish some power running? It's easier for the line to block. It takes pressure off the QB. OSU ran the ball against an MSU defense totally stacked to stop it last season. In fact, it's the fact that Meyer and Herman went AWAY from power football on the infamous 4th down play that got everyone rightly upset.
Just as Ross told us last season, a unit needs an identity. OSU's defense is starting to forge one after two years of not having one. The offense had one for two seasons and suddenly it doesn't. I have no idea what OSU wants to establish on offense every game.
Although I think Meyer and Herman need to find ways to run the ball more to take pressure off their young QB, JTB's tendency to lock into the primary receiver was very reminiscent of another Freshman QB...Braxton Miller. Of course, Miller has better skills, but it's easy to forget how one-dimensional he could be as a frosh and how little we appreciated his talents the past two seasons.
That said, back the running game. OSU must commit to the run. They did not even try to establish a running attack. Everyone knows Auburn is going to run it, and they're able to make yards. Navy ran it on OSU.
The running game helps the QB and it helps the defense. Elliott and Smith need to get the ball.
Most of what you read in this thread is true, but I think the team got two key things from this game:
First, they learned that they can win with JTB. I know we all heard good things from the team after Miller's injury, but it's always helpful to see it on the field...especially when it doesn't come easily.
And that leads me to the second thing...Navy gave them some adversity. This is so important for a young team. Navy is just good enough and plenty disciplined enough to make OSU fight to win. OSU showed some grit in the face of that adversity. They didn't play great football. Navy wasn't going away. And OSU won.
Good job, guys...bring on Va Tech!
Anyone else feel like sometimes Tom Herman loses the feel of the game in his play calling?
I've seen a lot of people mention the open receiver on the INT, but that would have been a throw completely across his body after spinning away from one rusher and having another in his face. Absolutely no way he can make that throw. Yes the guy was open (I think it was Devin Smith), but it would have to be an XBox play to get it there.
The correct play was to throw it away. He showed his youth by trying to make a big play out of a situation that Navy had busted up. The big play was that he avoided the sack. He did a great job by doing that. Next throw it to the alumni in the stands and come back for another play.
The change to Joel Hale seemed to settle the OL a bit and they played much better in the second half.
You can also check out Buckeye Grove which you'll find just south of the South Stands. It will give him an even better sense of the history of Ohio State football.
Get a pic of the Lane Avenue bridge too. It's the coolest small bridge I've ever seen.
With all due respect to Mike Nugent and Tom Tupa, I think Skladany was OSU's best ever kicking specialist. Thank you for the trip down memory lane.
OSU loses Miller.
People tend to like the service academies.
OSU is a lightning rod.
Predicting a Navy upset has no downside for any media outlet.
It's nice for RU to get a little, and deserve a little, B1G love. I think the Knights will end up a solid addition to the conference, their recent athletic department snafus notwithstanding.
Conley is more physical than Apple? It looked like the opposite during the spring game.
That looks fun...they're probably having a blast.
Wait until their first meal at Baker Commons. (Is it still there?)
As a transplanted Buckeye, I can't thank the OP enough for kicking off this thread with that pic. Ugh.
That said, RU, bad defense and all, went across the country as a dog and won. Good start for them and good win for the B1G.
The great thing about having Navy be JTB's first game is that they really won't stress him into making uncomfortable decisions. He will get the chance to trust his instincts and his eyes in a game situation.
Va Tech will provide more stress.