Yes, Kwon seems like a great young man....and will play on Sundays, but he's not a first rounder. I feel a bit vindicated in reading this article....as I have always wondered about the fuss over him. He has some gaudy tackling stats and freakish athletic ability....but in the mix of looking at OSU LB talent, especially at MLB, he simply does not stack up versus the others. He does not disrupt opposing offenses and I have yet to see a team gameplan around him. Yes, hard to do since he is a MIKE, but teams run ...right....at ....him....game after game. It's been 2 years now...time to take the blinders off. I will be delighted to be proven wrong from here in. IMHO...this LB unit only lags behind the O line and WR units as this team's biggest cause for concern.
I hate to burst your bubble, but most of those guys were here last year.....and by appearances, were ready to leave in September. It's easy to think of "what could have been" had all the juniors who left.....stayed. Then ....come to the realization that not much would've been different. Would we have beaten PSU? Maybe, maybe not.
I was thinking the NEB vs. WI game should be a good wrap to the night. Let's hope and expect to be watching it in a good mood!
No disrespect to you or to Tim Beck. But as of now, Coach Tim Beck is the highest paid spotter in college football. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Hmm....it'll be interesting to see when it's all said and done....what this roster looks like for next year....and where everyone comes from.
When Cardale came in, there was no other QB to play when we won the crystal.
Bring in Burrow now? And ask the most prolific passer in OSU history to sit....when he has a line that can't block, coaches who call plays that my dog knows are coming.....and WRs who can't get separation ?
The Bucks have better players everywhere
Not so sure about that comment. Nitts had advantage at RB.....Barkley is that good. Their WRs were and are better.....man for man. Their DBs shut down our pathetic passing game (aided by their rush, I know) .....and their LBs, coming back from significant injury, held their own. I'd be careful about overstating our "talent advantage"....which wasn't so evident Saturday night.
And for the sake of argument, as a recruit......in the spirit of the OPs question, I'd be impressed with how the PSU coaches sure as hell got more from their "inferior" team than Urban Meyer did on Saturday night.
Until proven otherwise, this is the sobering truth.
Bingo. It's October 24 ....in the season we all look forward to. When we enter the dead zone of February, we'll be counting down the days until the Spring Game. Let's enjoy the ride.
I admit that as an armchair hack, I don't understand the "grading system" described. What I do know...is that despite some gaudy tackling stats and Jerome Baker's pick six that fell into his lap at OK, I continue to be unimpressed by this LB corps. Even with Kwon, for all of his presumed greatness, still finds opposing teams running right him now for 2 seasons in a row. The best LB group I have seen this year is at WI and it's not even close. Maybe it's scheme...but I am to the point where I don't really care, I don't see our LBs as disruptive at all, gaudy stats notwithstanding.
I agree with you. When I watched the video (briefly...all that I could stomach) I was shocked at how immobile he was / is.
Penn State made their own breakes. Blocked a punt and a FG and turned that into 10 points, maybe even a 13 point swing. Add in a flubbed Extra point and our STs gave them 14 points. I am probably making your point for you, but despite the stats which you pointed out in our favor, very few teams can recover from the ST cluster - f**k we had.
LOL. Okay guys, I'll fact check salaries better next time. Hey, if he were making only $ 4 MM, I could forgive his Offense and STs collapse on Saturday night. But I draw a hard ass line at $ 6 MM.....we deserve better, again, lol.
The talk about Prince may be true......I realize he is young, etc. etc. But let's not act like he was playing against Reggie White (RIP) or Joey Bosa. This was a Penn State line that certainly does not strike fear into opponents. If we cannot or could not handle THEM....then it does not portend well for the rest of the way. I realize the old saying is true: "their guys are on scholarship too". But for cripe sakes, let's not prop the PSU D Line up to be something they aren't just to make ourselves feel good.
This O is a ship taking on water. Time to see if the $ 4 MM man can fix this shit show.
I hope you're right, tiger. But as for me.........I saw a team last night that doubted themselves and a lot of other things. Maybe, to your point, they have or will regroup, kick ass and take names. But...they've got a ways to go and I don't think this house will be cleaned up in time to lay 21 + on Northwestern by any stretch.
Didn't miss him against OK, did we? And......I am not sure if this team still had Mike Thomas and Jalin Marshall, they would know what to do with them.
Let's not go fishing into deep water. No need to.
Maybe. But if I am Prince, I am saying........"Hey Coach.....see......they already know the fucking play before we run it."
Maybe. But..........I wouldn't want to play Oklahoma next Saturday with the way the Buckeyes are playing now. Shit, even Tulsa is better.
We thought the "soft" first half schedule would give this Offense time to gel and mature. Funny thing is...they played better early....and have regressed since. That's not on the players per se....even though many of them are quite young and not used to the rigor of the college game. The issues, execution problems aside...reside with the coaches to a large degree.
Thank you. Your response gave me my first good laugh since yesterday afternoon !
Until Meyer achieves what Saban does, then he arguably is not the best coach in college football. Since I really doubt that Warriner and Beck have forgotten how to call plays since they blitzed MIchigan and ND late last year, whatever is cluster-***ing the Offense, falls on Meyer....exclusively. He's the CEO....it's on him.
And if we don't....we're 5-3. I am not assuming anything anymore....not after last night.
Alcohol is quite an enabler, you know? LOL>
Minus 23 vs. NW? I am not a betting man, but I'd bet the mortgage we won't cover that. And Vegas just gave Coach Fitz his bulletin board material for the week....to a team whose confidence is growing....vs. a team that must be questioning everything about itself now.
Wr are so slow and cannot off get off blocks that the o line and QB have to hold the ball so long...I wonder what Zach Smith gets paid for..
Tweating Michigan coaches and busting their balls. I see no evidence of anything else. Take away Devin Smith, Thomas and Noah Brown and what do you have? And my guess is for all 3, all he had to do was just stay out of their way......
Bingo. The loss of tempo is killing this team. It's as if Warriner is either afraid to go with what he wants to call, or Meyer is vetoing or questioning the calls, leaving Warriner to say either to himself or to Meyer...."well fuck it then, call the play you want."
Yes....I think it has gotten that dysfunctional. The product on the field proves it.