It sucks but hopefully he got the treatment he needed and can move forward a wiser person. He didn't do himself any favors by lying about the first test and then getting busted during his suspension. That was dishonest. I think that the deceitfulness might have played more in to the B1G's decision than anything else.
I've been critical of him just based on the lack of "pop" his kicks seem to have. You watch Agauyo or any really excellent kicker, the ball just explodes off their foot. They are no doubters. Nuernberger hasn't shown that physical ability yet, which is what concerns me. The ball gets there, but not with authority. His kicks, including XP's, have a rather low trajectory. It's like he has to really punch it out there to get the force necessary to carry the ball, which might affect his accuracy some.
Obviously with more experience and confidence his misses will decrease. I guess I'm just more concerned with his physical ceiling.
I think it's fair to analyze players and provide criticism so long as it's not spiteful and petty.
What an embarrassment of riches when we lose our starting QB and then lose our starting H-back, and the backups end up being even better.
Can't wait to see them write the epitaph to the Hoke era next Saturday.
Anyone else concerned with Nuernberger? Just doesn't seem have to have that pop on his kicks that you seen from really elite kickers.
I hate to be a downer after that high we just experienced but that's one of my takeaways from the game going forward.
They are more into self-promotion than supporting the Buckeyes. That's what gets people upset and makes them look bad. There's a reason they wear the same customized clothing with their stupid nicknames on them, it's just wanton self-promotion. It's annoying that they get their morbidly obese faces on camera every week at the expense of fans who don't make us look like raging douches.
The Evans Scholarship requires you working 5-6 years as a caddy and requires you to show financial need. A kid with a rich dad who loves to write checks isn't carrying golf bags for 4.5 hours a day every summer weekend in 90 degree heat for 5 years. I would know.
I am 100% certain he doesn't have a "daddy" with a "checkbook" to cash his way out of the situation.
The saying about representing yourself means you have a fool for a client applies here. You do no show up to court without legal representation. You will ALWAYS get a better deal with representation. The judge is a former lawyer. You not showing up with a lawyer makes it look like you don't take the situation seriously which is 100% not the impression that you want to be giving, especially in a situation like Wunder's.
I don't think the fact that he didn't hurt anyone is relevant. There are a lot of "victimless" crimes that we nonetheless punish because its not appropriate behavior. There have been numerous instances of people running onto a sporting field with the intent to disrupt or do harm to the people on the field (Monica Seles). Just because this situation ended well doesn't really change the analysis. What if he had rushed a cop and been shot in front of 106k people? You just can't allow people to do what he did, it's dangerous and inappropriate. If he wants to play a stupid prank he can break into a sorority house and steal a composite photo like the rest of the frat people.
I don't think people are "glad" he lost his scholarship. He reaped what he sowed. He wanted to get hammered at the game and run onto the field. It was selfish and totally unacceptable behavior. 106k+ fans, many of which who were hammered, managed to watch the game without running onto the field. It's not normal or acceptable behavior to run onto the field- it is completely inappropriate, illegal, totally selfish and completely self-absorbed. You know how many students who graduate with debt would kill for the opportunity he had, to attend school completely free of cost? He had that opportunity and this is what he did with it.
As a fan it pisses me off that someone would run onto the field and disrespect both teams, the university, and themselves. It's just embarrassing. It's also not his first run-in with this: he bragged on twitter and had photos of him on the court at Madison Square Garden.
You can't really play the what-if game. He was intoxicated, ran on the field during play, and was arrested. It was on TV. It was widely publicized and made the organization look bad. Why would they keep giving him a full-ride scholarship? The Evans Scholarship is competitive- there were other kids that didn't get it that would've loved to have it and would've been model students and citizens.
Like it or not, he was a representative for the program and he embarrassed it and himself. It's within their right to show that such behavior isn't tolerated. He's not entitled the to scholarship, it was a privilege that he clearly didn't fully appreciate. It might be harsh but he only has himself to blame.
I understand the point you are making, however the fine analogy doesn't work for one reason: you are entitled to the money you have. It's yours, you've earned it. You are not, however, entitled to other people's money. Yes, fining someone $40k for running on the field is ridiculous. However, the kid's scholarship isn't his money- it's someone else's (Evans Scholars). He's not entitled to it. He has obligations and responsibilities- namely being a good citizen and getting good grades and presumably not bringing shame/bad press to the scholarship. He's not entitled to receive his scholarship- it comes with continual obligations that he failed to meet in spectacular and selfish fashion.
Hyde's scholarship was given by OSU and he was never convicted of anything. Wunder's scholarship is given by a private third party and there is clear video evidence of him committing a crime.
I don't think the kid should be suspended/expelled from school. I'm not "happy" he lost his scholarship. However, he needs to learn the hard lesson that actions have consequences and he is not entitled to receive what amounts to $20-25k a year in scholarship money from a private donor if he is going to make a fool of himself and the organization that gives him the scholarship by behaving like a criminal. The kid disrespected himself, Ohio State, his scholarship, the fans in the crowd, and the players from both teams doing what he did. It wasn't normal 21 year old drunken behavior, as there are literally tens of thousands of similarly intoxicated young people at the games who somehow manage to not run on the field during play.
This kid's scholarship wasn't given to him by OSU, it was given to him by a private 3rd party. All he had to do was get good grades and be a good citizen and he got his undergrad fully covered. Instead he acted like an asshat. If you want to give this idiot $40k of your own money, go ahead. Actions have consequences. I hope his 15 seconds of being on the field were worth the humiliation, pain, google history, and being $40k in debt when he graduates.
No, the $11,666 number is the separate cost of room and board. The full 1 year COA is $21,703 when you include tuition.
Not a surprise he lost his scholarship. The WGA (organization that provides the scholarship) can't be pleased that "Evans Scholars" is being associated with a drunk idiot running on the field and getting body slammed.
It's a big hit for him as he'll now have to pay full tuition and board for whatever time he has left at OSU. Assuming that's just a semester, it's probably close to $15-20k. Maybe he'll learn that being a douchebag doesn't pay.
Edit: According to the Dispatch he's a 4th year student in a 5 year program. So looks like he's taking a $40k hit. That probably hurts more than the one Schlegel put on him.
The Evans Scholarship is a full-ride scholarship, it pays full tuition and you get to live in the scholarship house while you're a student. Pretty stupid to jeopardize that and your freedom so you can look like an asshat getting slammed into the turf.
That is actually not true, there are no entry fees for these major level competitions. The teams that play have dedicated sponsors that pay them a salary. The teams are all sponsored, and the games are live-streamed with commercials. Viewers can also buy "tickets" that enhance their viewing experience by offering stuff like in-game items and stat tracking. It's more akin to a traditional major league sporting event revenue-wise than WSOP.
As much as I cringe at the term e-sports, the rise of online streaming has really made this blow up in popularity (and money) and it appears to be sustainable.
What a disaster. I understand that college kids want to do college things, but it just boggles the mind that a potential first round NFL draftee would submarine their future earnings potential as well as let down their teammates and school just to pop a pill or smoke some weed or w/e it happens to be.
HE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO GET TESTED. HOW CAN YOU BE SO DENSE.
I'm not normally negative about players and whatnot but with everything that has been going on lately, all the adversity, you just cannot let your team and yourself down like this. Shameful.
As much as these little burner guys are fun to watch on highlight tapes, I really, really, really, want us to get RB recruits in the mold of Carlos Hyde/Beanie Wells. Big backs that can make yards out of nothing.
TP drove a Dodge Charger. Watched him pull up to Marketplace in it numerous times.
Based on his quote, if that's really the approach he wants to take with his college football career, being "laid back" and just having fun while handling his business, doesn't really make me feel like this is a miss.
Remember, star ratings indicate potential. If someones a 4-5 star guy with a 1-star work ethic or a lackadaisical approach to his college career, he's better off outside of Urban Meyer's system.
If people can afford it, more power too them. I haven't see the Shoe's gameday experience being hurt any as a result of these prices. Being butthurt because someone else can afford tickets and you can't is extremely haterish and lame.
He didn't even get 4 years at OSU
To be honest, I don't mind seeing things like this. Everyone did a pretty good job of keeping their cool, and we just had a little pushing and shoving. Added some color to the game without getting ugly.
That being said, you're always one swing away from a UC-Xavier situation.
At least ND is in the midwest I guess...?