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Comment 06 Mar 2015

Anyone have insight on to how long Coach Hinton plans on coaching at OSU?

i at first thought Hinton was a holdover from Fickell's 2011 staff but after looking it up, I saw and remember now he was brought over from Notre Dame along with Warriner Urban's first year in 2012.

I know Hinton holds enormous value for the program, I've been told he the coach on staff most respected by Ohio high school coaches, and he's looked upon as the glue in keeping all current relationships in tact, plus help open new doors in the years to come to those schools yet to establish a solid relationship with OSU as of yet. Hinton holds that much clout, and he's the type of guy anyone would enjoy sitting down and having a beer with.

Now in saying all that, Hinton has to me begun to have started to stick out like a sore thumb in a few areas. Although Urban did select Hinton in 2012, going into now his 4th year it doesn't take a genius to see the common traits and similarities Urban likes and wants out of his staff. As well as Hinton's liked, business is business and I wonder if a lateral move in a year or 2 could be in store for Hjnton to better accentuate his strengths day to day versus what's required of him now.

When looking at Urbans staff, all of them are relatively young and most all are recruiting aces on a national level. Hinton is going to be 55 years old which isn't ancient by any means, but still is 10 years older than Larry Johnson, and several all way down to Zach Smith. The only coaches over 50 are Hinton (55), Warriner (53), and Kerry Coombs (51). In fact here are all their ages:

Urban 50

Hinton 55

Coombs 51

Warriner 53

Johnson 45

Alford 45

Ash 41

Fickell 41

Smith 30

Beck 48

Urban demands his staff, in particular the position coaches, to be relentless grinders on the recruiting trail, leaving no stone unturned. He does not share the same recruiting responsibilities with his coordinators the same, it's why even though Fickell and Herman were arguably two of the stronger recruiters on staff last year, their numbers and recruiting rankings won't reflect  their talent. Position coaches should and must under Urban and Hinton failed miserably last year on a national level as a tight end position coach .

its a lot to ask of anyone to hit the road for weeks at a time but understandably the older a person gets, the more difficult that type of lifestyle becomes.

I bring this up because although I can't say Morrow would be a better coach than Hinton, he most definitely fits the profile Urban has been looking for as of late when filling out his staff. Morrow whose in his mid 40's, is an OSU fan and an elite recruiter, a perfect marriage I would imagine. Only problem is Hinton is too valuable to the program with all the intangibles he brings, especially his relationships with Ohio high school coaches. I wonder if a recruiting director position would maybe in a few years allow Hinton to go to work at the WHAC everyday to best utilize his talents with people in Ohio and everywhere else in a role that would keep anyone approaching 60 years old you would think happily away from a recruiting grind away from home weeks at a time.

i say this as no disrespect to Hinton but the numbers don't lie as well as his age. When looking at 247 2014 rankings, it's littered with Buckeye coaches. Fickell and Herman were together in the middle of the pack and for reasons I already explained. Alford was also much lower than I expected but once reading up on him, he was Notre Dames recruiting coordinator in charge of it all, and was the closer but didn't get credit the main point guys in their recruitments did. The other position coaches at OSU performed tremendously, as Urban demands and expects. Here were 2014 rankings D I coaches. (OSU position coaches-non coordinators)

Coombs- #22 

Warriner- #17

Drayton #20

Johnson- #83

Fickell- #44 

Smith- #47

Hinton- #837

Not even the same ballpark. Vince Marrow was #55. Anyone else have thought on the subject?