Hahahahahaha this is awesome.
Plenty of time to watch more football and celebrate the total collapse of Michigan football afterwards!
Every stadium has different policies for seating bands. Most places just have folding chairs/bleachers on the sideline. Honestly, I know most of the kids in band love it because despite being elevated to see, they are closer to the action and players. Ohio State gets away with giving the opposing band seats in the stands by taking away from the total tickets that can be sold to opposing fans through the school.
At least they're not claiming to protect the students while releasing semi-nude photos of its alumni all over the internet.
So a calendar from half a decade before Waters was made director and videos that didn't show any actual nudity are their smoking gun? You're reaching, OSU...
The complain filed lists "compensatory damages in an amount in excess of $1 million" so it'll be at least that much.
That's the one, my bad.
Let's just hope the OL has improved enough to give him time.
That's the big issue. JT was great against Kent because 1) he had time 2) they are really bad. I don't think UC's secondary is much better, but we could have problems is JT is under pressure all game and we don't have a run game.
Waters legal team leaked this little tidbit: President Drake addressed the band as a whole once during this whole thing on August 21. Current members of the band recorded his statements, and here is one of them
"I believe that the report was overwhelmingly about people I've never met and that you've probably never met in times gone by. The overwhelming volume of this was historical information that was not relevant to you at all. Overwhelmingly."
If the university's own report was overwhelmingly historical information not relevant to the current band, how does that justify firing the man that largely shaped the current band's culture?
Before he gets another job he also needs to publicly clear his name.
All the shows were planned out, but much of the drill has yet to be written. Luckily, current Associate Director Chris Hoch was the driving force behind a lot of the drill that's made the band more famous is still on the staff...for now.
There's a lot of sucking and blowing in Ann Arbor, so always remember to stabilize your plume!
From seeing and talking to him a few times in the past few weeks, the man is anything but egotistical right now. He lost his dream job that he still wants back. He's so sad right now, the only thing keeping him from slipping into depression is the support he gets from others.
It was quite a sight to see the salutes go up row by row in such an organized fashion. I remember a few of our players getting trapped in the tunnel after warmups as we were coming into the stadium and they couldn't stop laughing and cheering.
NBC4 said that both parties had been trying to reach a settlement, but couldn't agree on one. Looks like court is the only place this can go.
"Saluting" that sign was by far one of my favorite memories of band. So sad that it had to go.
How is this being a ninny? They've ruined his career and reputation. Takes balls for the man to step up and fight an institution as large as Ohio State.
It would have helped if they had let Jon make his case at all. All requests to meet with OSU administrators made by Jon were denied instantly.
I want to say that's a 4-in-one?
It makes me sad to think that you are probably allowed to vote.
Yes, I read the same report too. I also lived the report for half a decade, including time when Jon was head director. No where in the report did it say that Jon knew all nicknames for female band members. In fact, he barely knew anyone's rookie names. His own estimation that 50% of rookie names are of a sexual nature (page 17 of the report), is grossly overestimated. Most rookie names were pop culture references, like characters in movies or youtube stars.
Changing on the bus is literally (and I'm not using this in today's context, but the word's actual definition) is something every marching band that has ever travelled anywhere by bus has done, including high school bands full of minors. It is not a big deal. If people weren't comfortable with changing in front of others, the bathroom at the back of the bus was made available for them.
The parts that are unfair are the ones where he was allowed no opportunity to defend himself, was not permitted to have council present during the questioning, and testimony that has been refuted by the very people it came from is still being taken at its word by people, like you, ignorant of the facts in front of their faces. Only one complaint came from a parent, and that was because Jon did not inform her that her daughter (an adult) was allegedly involved in a sexual assault, which he was legally not permitted to do. When she was informed of the assault (by her daughter) in May, she brought the complaint that he mishandled the investigation, and that the band produced rapists (her actual words). It is not Waters calling the students liars, but the students calling the university liars by manipulating what they said.
If you're going to accuse the man please do at least 2 things: 1) spell his name correctly (Jon, J-O-N, Waters, W-A-T-E-R-S) and 2) know the facts before you bring your accusations.
But it still does not make what was done acceptable.
Edit: I'm an idiot and forgot a very important word.
If you don't care about what happened before Jon's tenure, then you should disregard the university's own report. That report paints a wholly inaccurate picture of the band's culture and Jon's attempts to change things. There's having a zero tolerance policy for cultivating sexual harassment and then there's firing someone attempting to reform culture in a lasting manner.
The mom didn't find out till May that it happened from her daughter. Mommy was angry that he didn't tell her (despite not being allowed to according to the law), and made the complaint to the university. That's why she thought he "wasn't supportive enough."