Appreciate the response. Points taken.
Well, it appears that the majority of the folks didn't appreciate what I was trying to poke fun at, the idea of an offer from the staff in today's recruiting landscape, and I wasn't trying to piss so many folks off. However, I'm so turned off by recruiting nowadays, specifically with what happened to Sibley. And I know it's been discussed thoroughly here, but Sibley's situation makes me believe that no offer is ever safe with this staff. I mean, Sibley is as ideal as they come. He was a 4 star recruit, an Ohio kid, and someone who committed as early as possible and chose not to play any recruiting games, which you'd think the staff appreciated. We know that the staff had there reasons to do what they did, but if there's anything that could taken from the way the situation played out, it is that no offer is secure. If the staff can turn on the kids in their own backyard, they can do it to anybody. So, I am happy for the kids who get their offers from The Ohio State University. But like Urban himself said (and I don't know the exact quote), a commitment doesn't mean anything until the kid signs. Obviously, that goes for the player, but it also goes for the staff as well. I'm still a faithful Buckeye, but I really hope we don't have cases like Sibley's in the future. I miss the days of very very long ago, when one's word and handshake were as good as gold.
Good luck, Birm. We're gonna miss you. No one followed the recruiting game like you did.
Did not know this. Sad to hear the news. Good luck, Birm! Wishing you more success, sir.
Hahaha :) They are committable for now, but these Ohio boys better not commit too soon or else they may not be committable anymore. The staff may not commit to accepting their commitments.
Right with you, bro. He kept his word, and he has my utmost respect. I hope the staff learns from this and follows Sibley's example in the future.
Agree. Like many, I'm interested in seeing which players are going to have those "difficult" conversations with our staff and ultimately leave the team. Hopefully things are being done with respect and honor. We can only wait and see.
Kid shows integrity and more class than some of those Twitter happy coaches. Hope he makes a name for himself and does his community proud.
Spelled committable with 2 ts, still no luck. Maybe I have a cheap phone?
Good thing Tress was his coach and the staff helped him to develop into an NFL back. I loved Boom's consistency and his north and south physical running style. He's back with the colts, right?
I understand that coach Tress offered Todd Boeckman a gray shirt, but did he do it after rescinding a "commitable offer?"
The recruiting game seems to have changed so much. The term commitable offer sounds silly to me (my auto spell on my phone doesn't even recognize the word "commitable"), and yet I read about it more and more.
For me, recruiting better out of state kids who are a good fit is not the issue. The treatment of a committed in-state kid is. However, I do think Urban is doing his best and did not intentionally try to screw Sibley over and put Sibley in a good situation. And if mistakes were made, I'm sure Urban will try his hardest to make sure that they won't happen again.
On a side note, to watch us get punked by MSU, a school that often picks the Ohio kids who the staff passes over, drives me nuts.
Understand and agree. Majority of the folks here respectfully keep it in line.
On the flip side, for those who enthusiastically defend the staff on the grounds that Meyer and company must get the best talent at all costs within the rules (and I respect the argument), I hope you all see the hypocrisy if you choose to harshly criticize a 17 year old kid who decides to renege on his commitment even if it is late in the game. I mean, Sibley appears as loyal as they come, and it looks like he's about to get screwed. So, now that it's been firmly established that loyalty and commitment me very little in the recruiting game, I hope we all lighten up on kids who are making decisions that will affect the rest of their lives.
An Ohio kid who had been committed for almost a year, and it appears the staff is showing him the door.
As a fan and alumnus, this doesn't seem right to me. On the flip side, it's nice to see Matta going after in-state kids. I know the staff needs to recruit nationally, but I always hope we keep the Ohio identity with every class. Means more to me to win with our own.
I followed college basketball religiously during that time. So many good players, and it made the NBA draft more meaningful to me because I watched the players during the collegiate careers. Nowadays, I can't tell you anything about these young dudes coming up.
Hahaha! Not at all, man.
I'm one of those "let's keep Ohio kids in Ohio" Buckeye fans. Of all the transfers, I was most bummed out about little AJ.
Of Salley, Lumpkin, and Dudley, I think Dudley was the most successful on the hardwood. I believe Salley and Lumpkin played on the weaker teams of the Ayers era. I know I complain about Matta, but those last years with Ayers were some dark ages.
Yeah, man. I'm just tired of watching our kids get punked and outworked on the boards. A lot of that, I think, is just a lack of attitude. Hope coach Jent and Oden help to solve that problem.
Thanks for the reply, bro.
I love Tate's toughness, but he gives up lots of size. A kid like Harrison, I think, would do wonders for the basketball squad. Hope Thad can find a few athletic blue-collar players to compliment shooters like Kam, Diop, and Loving.
Was at the game and cheering loudly for Sullinger when he got fouled on a shot. And a Celtic fan looks over at me and says, "We have another fan here. Where's your green, though?" And I answered, "Man, I'm not so much a Celtic. But I'm a Buckeye. Ohio State, baby. Sully and ET." Dude laughed and gave me a high five.
Agree with you, bro. I'm just trying my best to not sound as pissed off as you are, but I'm right with you. I'll give Thad more of a pass this year because of the loss of Tate and KBD late in the year. It was nice to see Kam improve, and the free throw shooting did get better. Trying to stay positive.
Totally agree about Potter. Looks like he can be a really solid contributor in the right system, and that's where I feel as a fan that Thad and his boys need to step it up.
Hope to see Matta's players improve and expand their games with every season, and that we run an offense that is efficient and gets everyone involved. I hope we do not see a big kid like Potter, who has sound fundamentals and a nice shooting touch, become regulated to only setting ball screens. And I hope all these Buckeye players follow Tate's example and play with rugged toughness. Getting beaten by more than 15 happened way too frequently last season, and that simply shouldn't be the case at a big time athletic program.