Nothing good happens when you are wearing sunglasses after 10:00pm.
I would assume that's a way for her to passively get involved.. maybe see if the vibe feels right, but still being able to back out if she isn't into it.
It sounds like Gareon was trying to get her more involved by getting a little touchy feely and at some point after he managed to get to third base, she decided it was time to stop and Gareon just wanted to finish up real quick.
That's not cool, and I guess it is sexual misconduct on some level, but it also sounds like she might have been able to avoid this as well. Not that I'm victim blaming, but I guess I'm just wondering if there is really even a victim at all. (This is her account of the incident, not mine)
I am assuming until she decided that it hurts and wanted to quit, everything was consentual to that point. A gentleman would just go take care of himself in the bathroom, but in that procarious situation if a guy just wants to finish up, it's kinda like putting a nice chocolate cake in front of a fat kid, and letting him take a couple bites and then pulling it away... that's rough.. your playing with fire.
Not that women don't have a right to do that, and he has no right to finish real quick.. but is it rape?
I think think there should be a different charge, like a misdemeanor sexual misconduct. Not quite rape, but definitely not cool. Either way, what a bone-head for doing this right before he signs a multi-million dollar contract.
I think both his and Haskins skills would translate well to in-game situations.
I am willing to bet that both of them are tough enough to handle that wheel-route, black shirt or no black shirt.
Being completely sold on JT is fine, but no need to take shots and pretend that these other guys would fall apart if they had to hang in the pocket and take a hit from time to time.
They both did everything they could possibly do in a spring game. Neither Burrow or Haskins may see meaningful snap this year, but they both should be very proud of themselves for playing their asses off.
To that point, It would have been nice to see JT running the offense in a game situation for the first time with a new OC and QB coach, considering we all think we are going to see a revamped offense and hopefully a more dynamic play book... It seems like JT would have a lot to work on.
This is exactly what has had me scratching my head over the last few weeks.
When JT announced he was coming back I genuinely thought he would end up our starter. I just thought his experience in there would be his edge. I knew we had some good QB's waiting in the wing, but I figured that they would need to be significantly better than JT to leap-frog him in the rotation. Even so, I did think we would have a pretty dynamic competition on our hands.
I'm more a fan of looking at it as a clean slate every year and may the best man win, but I knew everything that JT has done for the program on and off the field, and I'm a realist. We, as humans, usually tend to favor those that have earned their stripes and paid their dues as appose to those that have not... And I was ok with one more year of JT, for better or worse.
That being said, it seems very contradictory to what Urban has always preached (The value of competition and not letting anyone get too comfortable). But in this case, where we seem to have 3 guys where you could pick a name out of a hat and you couldn't lose, it seems that Haskins and Burrow aren't even competing for the job, but rather 2nd place is the best they can hope for.
I am not trying to insinuate that the coaches words are anything conspiratory or anything less than genuine, but I do wonder if the 2015 QB-geddon debacle may have messed with Urban's head a little bit. Nobody could have watched that whole thing unfold and came away feeling like Urban was doing the right thing. It seemed confused, unsure, and frankly ameture. It was ugly. I think it effected the confidence of both Cardale and JT, as well as the the entire team. Everyone seemed to be unsure of themselves. I wonder if from that point moving forward, it is unlikely that you will see any QB competition (controversy) play out so publicly under Urban Meyer's watch.
Again, I am not saying that there is a controversy, but I am saying that I hope there is at least a little bit of competition, and even if this is really more of a 3-horse race, we might never know about it.
If Kevin Wilson said that last year, it was one of two things:
1. Typical coach speak readying his team to compete againtst him, or just using some innocent hyperbole to justify a loss.
2. He is an incompetant fool.
We can debate the idea of not benching a 5th year seasoned vet that has set more school records than I can count in favor of a guy that has never taken a meaningful snap. We can even debate if JT is the best QB on our roster. What we can't debate is JT being the best QB in the country last year. Even as an opinion that's just silly homerism.
But I just read in another thread the possibility of JT being a first round draft pick next year. I have also read that he might be a candidate to switch to WR for the NFL, so safe to say nothing surprises me at this point.
Rashan Gary describes good pasta as "creamy".
That's why he plays up North.
These other coaches must love Urban Meyer on the recruiting trail. Last year he decimated the state of Texas, and it seems that in 2018 Georgia is what's for dinner.
He is like an apex predator, like a wolf, stalking his prey... He spots the lame or weak coaching staffs around the country and exploits their home turf. He runs them down until they are tired and then sinks his teeth into the back of their necks.
Charlie Strong was no match perched up on his hot-seat. Now it's Kirby Smart running desperatly for his life in just his second year as head coach.. If your coaching staff is just a little bit gimpy, you better not go anywhere near that watering hole.
See... I hate piling JT, because if I had a son, I would only hope that he carries himself like JT Barrett, which is more important than anything he will ever do on the football field.. but for the sake of this debate..
His Skill-set leaves way too much to be desired. Vision, arm strength, and ability to throw guys open seem to be a struggle. He was quite shifty as a runner in 2014, but now he runs like he's about 35 years old. The thought of him taking one to the house like he did against Minnesota and Michigan in 2014 seems unthinkable.
He undoubtably will finish his career at OSU as decorated as anybody in OSU football history. But his trophies and records are not translating on the field.
I want to blame it all on the dumpster fire in the booth.. Or on the side-line.. Or both.. Whatever the hell was going on there with Beck and Warriner. I hope that was the only issue, and JT goes out and sets the world on fire this year, but I just don't see it.
And yes, the B1G QBs were bad as usual.
You nailed it on all three, however I think/hope that we get to see Chase Young before 2019.
I love the idea of Weber being used situationally. Like I mentioned, Mike Weber will likely play on Sundays at some capacity. He's no slouch.. Far from it.
We have good problems when our issues are having to many weapons.
Chase Young will be the next great one. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
But as discussed above, d-line depth, Urban's reluctance to start true freshman, and him not enrolling early will likely keep him out of the starting line-up save for some injuries.
That's ok though. I'm still drinking the kool-aid.
+1 for the good points.. And good information.
I was on the fence with that one, and I think I'm now sold that it's a long shot. I knew Urban wasn't prone to starting true freshman, but I had no idea there were so few.
I think although Chase Young has potential to be an all-time great, he would likely need some injuries to see any major playing time with how stacked our D-Line is.
Browning may have a more reasonable path to the field early and often, and had he not suffered an injury I think he would already be making some noise.
Just a side note: I saw some information that Chase Young has put on like 30lbs of muscle since we last saw him at the all-star game (where he was already an animal) and There is also a video floating around of him running the 40 like a gazell.
Our defense should be something to behold this year. If we can get the offense thing figured out we should be damn near unstoppable.
I'll take Haskins or Burrow.. To me it's Haskins, to others it's Burrow, but the best argument I have heard for JT is his 26 wins and a bunch of records.. To me those are the last thing I care about. I hate piling on JT, I just think he should be accountable for his performance when you have such amazing guys sitting on the bench. He had a bad year last year, and I think the coaching staff should at least consider other options.
McCall isn't a move pile guy, but neither is Kevin Wilson. I'm fine if my RB makes his money outside the trenches. He will never be a Carlos Hyde, but that's ok. Their are plenty of RBs that like to make guys miss instead of running over them.
Herman hired Beck for his Texas recruiting prowess. The rest we can debate, but not Beck. He's a bum.
My opinions are certainly outliers, which is evident by every available projected depth chart available, so what your saying doesn't surprise me.
That being said, do you feel like Young and Browning couldn't possibly be better than what we have, or do you feel that because of their cerebral development, that it just wouldn't matter if they were better.
i think every recruiting cycle their are a handfull of guys that could go to any school in the country and immediately push to start. We rarely get one of these guys, and I do think that this year we got two of them.
Maybe I am wrong about that one, I will admit, but I think your relegating them to no chance at all seems about as hyperbolic as me penciling them in as starters.
I am about to say some things that just might ruffle some feathers here but please bare with me, and understand that these are just my opinions:
1. Dwayne Haskins is our best QB and should be a starter. JT is a great leader and will always have a place in Buckeye history, but it's time to move on. I feel like his tragic injury as a RS freshman stymied his mobility to the point that it has greatly exposed some of his weaknesses in the passing game. (Joe Burrow might just be better than both, but based on what I've seen so far Haskins is the guy.)
2. Demario McCall is our best RB and should also be a starter. Weber is a very good RB and I could see him making an NFL roster in the near future, but that doesn't mean he's our best. Weber doesn't really hit me with that wow factor and I'm not a big fan of putting the ball on the turf in the CFP. Weber has shown glimpses of next-level ability, but McCall is lightning in a bottle and I think we have only begun to realize where his ceiling might be. (JK Dobbins might be better than both, but I'm not a big fan of true freshman running backs unless your name is Maurice.)
3. Chase Young and Baron Browning may not start against Indiana, but they will against Michigan, and maybe even against Oklahoma. These two guys physically seem to be developed like grown-ass men, and dear lord are they freaks. Good luck to any upper-classmen that have to compete with either of them for their starting spots.
I do think that Tim Beck was the worst thing to ever happen to OSU football. I think he cost us a championship in 2015, and last year I think we did better than expected despite him. JT and Weber may be better than what we've seen recently, and I think it's fair to say that Beck/Warriner certainly didn't help, but unless both of them have made significant improvements, we shouln't just automatically assume that their starting spots are set in stone. We have been recruiting way too well lately to not have legitimate heisman contenders at our primary skill positions.
Sounds like this is a classic case of a young, slightly rebellious millennial contemplating going against the grain. Everybody wants to be a hipster these days. I can respect that. I think I might might do the same if I were him. My get out of Ohio choice would be USC, but to each their own. All that being said, the Buckeye fan in me really wants this kid playing for the good guys.
Good luck to him either way.
It's kinda rare that we know anything about the depth chart in March. It almost feels like a situation that Urban is using the media to send a message. Urban making this public is probably more of a wake-up call to Williams.
The other possibility is that Dobbins is just that good, but in this case I think as good as Dobbins is, this is more about Williams getting too comfortable.
Either way, it's time to step it up if your Antonio Williams.
Am I detecting a bit of uncertainty??
I have no idea what the fair market value is for a guy like Pryor. His path was so unconventional and it seems that while he is still a bit raw at WR, it's not hard to imagine him becoming a top 5 WR in the league. I'm sure his agent has an idea of what he's worth and I hope he is getting good advice.
That being said, the part of me that always liked TP, and likes him even more now that he seems to have matured a bit since his time in CBUS, it really seems like a hell of a tough bet. This is the NFL, where if you went to the moon for 3 years and came back, you probably wouldn't know half of the names in the league. Throw in injury risks, or just bad chemistry in Washington, and it's not hard to imagine this bet going south quick. It really seems like a one-year contract to determine your future earning power is not very prudent.
I genuinely wish the best for him, and I will be rooting for him every step along the way, but this is just my two cents.
Your sig says you don't often hate....
seems like you do.
Tate Martell waits in line behind no man...
May the best man win.
I'm just trying to figure out what percentage of a kid being committed is good.
We know that 125% is terrible.
Now we know that 100% is pretty bad as well.
I'm starting to think that 95% might be the magic number. It shows that although they are sure, they are also being realistic.
I think he said that last week. Lol
Figuring out recruiting is like trying to figure out how a watch works... Just try to keep your eyes on the time.
He was all Buckeyes the other day. "100%" if I'm not mistaken.
You know how this works.