Now I want Corley.
I think most people just see it as a young man that got a little emotional with a camera in his face after a heart breaking loss.
I think these kids know that this is a first class organization top to bottom. Most of them probably idolize Ezekiel Elliott and rightfully so.
Zeke is one of the very best players to ever wear scarlet and grey. (any position)
He 100% gets a pass on this.
I disagree with every single thing you said. I would argue my point, but you can just take your comment line by line and just switch it to the complete opposite, and that sums up what I think.
If by 'something good' you mean the Capital One Bowl, you might be right.
This isn't about winning or losing.
This is about you and your brothers giving every ounce of your blood sweat and tears to something, and then you are not given the chance to win.
Bone head play calling is one thing.. This was just play calling that lacked any inspiration, creativity, or confidence. This was throwing in the towell. This is what not even trying looks like. That is unacceptable and I am proud of Zeke for standing up against this crude tyranny.
This is not how he is going to be remembered.
He should be getting his last name hanging below C-deck. But because of Coach Beck, that will never happen now.
Zeke will be remembered the same way that Eddie George is remembered. Eddie got the Heisman, but Zeke got the ring.
I remember watching the game last night and thinking that I can't possibly imagine another scenario where we get another touchdown.
That's when you know the offense has gone stagnant. When you are trying to think of ways to win the game without scoring.
i'll take it.. But maybe I'm a little too young to think that beating Michigan is all that matters.
I read the first line of your comment, and I was like 'what the hell?' But then it all started to fall in place. I couldn't have said it better myself. In fact, you took me to a dark place in my soul that I didn't even know existed.. And for that I thank you.
The part that is hard to accept is that our inevitable fate was to be exposed. It begs to question..., What the fuck?
Stanford over Iowa makes little sense to me. Stanford has a quality win over USC, but Iowa has a quality win over Northwestern, which is a higher quality win, and happens to be the team that beat Stanford. Meanwhile Iowa has not lost a game. I would also say that Northwestern's Wisconsin win matches up nicely with Stanford's UCLA win.
Am I missing something?
Maybe somebody doesn't agree..
For the record, I agree with him. But it's ok if somebody doesn't.
I expect there to be no slack to pick up. Cardale at his best can look like a solid 1st round draft pick QB. He can make any throw on the field, and he can move out of the pocket with ease, and run over most defenders to pick up needed yardage.
Cardale has not played his best, but the offensive scheme and play-calling hasn't been the best fit for him either. I would love to see us not use the zone read, and take at least 5 shots throwing the ball deep. Give our skill guys a chance to make plays.
Cardale just needs to be assertive and quick with his decision making to get out of the pocket, and Zeke needs to tote the rock like he does. If these things happen we can look like the well oiled machine that slaughtered the post season competition last year.
To be fair to him (and the hipster comment was funny).. I don't think it's that far fetched to question his #1 RB ranking. Just to take you through my progression with Kareem..
1. Buckeyes get a commitment during the National Title Game last year. I read that he is supposedly "the best running back to come around since Fournette. Maybe better!!! think... Adrien Peterson."
2. Kareem apparently has poor showing at a summer camp.. His ranking slides a bit. Kareem says he is just not a "Camp guy"... he's a gamer. Fair enough. No more camps for Kareem.
3. The season starts and I anxiously check my prep tracker every week expecting to see some eye popping numbers. That just wasn't happening. I often wondered if he was injured.
4. Kareem plays on ESPNU and I get to watch him play finally. I turned the game off at the end of the third quarter because his backup RB was out playing him across the board. (and I realized I'm a 35 year old man watching high school football)
5. I go back and look at his highlights again, trying to figure out what I'm missing, and it looks good. He is a big physical back with good vision. But without my rose colored glasses on, it really just looked like every single other HS tape I have ever seen.
Call me crazy, or a hipster, but this is just honesty. I was thrilled to have the #1 RB in the nation on board.. and of course I wanted him to be great.. and maybe he will be.. but I was a tad skeptical whether you believe it or not.
There is no way to tell who will transition well to the next level. It's only the very rare elite of the elite that absolutely can't miss. Fournette was one of those guys. IMHO Kareem is not. I don't think that makes me unique to figure that out. I think if he was that special, Urban NEVER would have let him go.
I disagree that people would be "calling for Cardale's head", but I def understand his point. This type of infraction would set Cardale back significantly in the court of public opinion... And rightfully so.
The leadership role that JT has accepted, does actually come with caveats. One is that you have to hold yourself to a higher standard. Everybody else on the team goes out and screws up.. Your team captain does not.
By my count this is the second time in two years that JT has been on the police's radar. I have no idea what happened the first time, but this time we have a pretty clear picture. Instead of worrying about football games, and this bizarre hero-worship towards a young man that probably is no different than anybody else, I kinda feel like the conversation should be more about making sure that JT is ok.
I was once 20 years old, and I had no-where near the pressures that JT is under, and I easily could have had the wheels come off. I think that's why maybe a little slap on the wrist is acceptable.
Victor and Bruce would be a Florida coup for the ages.
Along with Mack at the other receiver spot, McCall at the H, and Walker & Williams toting the rock..
Skill positions-wise, I guess you could say we are reloading.
I get the joke...
You think that if Cardale doesn't read it, it doesn't matter.
Last talked about future Sunday baller that we have... #4
So... when we were the first ever consensus AP #1 preseason team in America, defending national champions, like 3-4 legit Heisman contenders, and returning more starters that almost any team in America.. Playing what most people would call a relatively soft schedule for the first 2 months of the season... You weren't feeling confident?
I get that you are just trying to drive home how happy you are that your bff JT is starting, but we all get it dude. Cardale played sub-par and now your boy gets a shot. You don't have to keep making these comments disparaging #12.
I think you're spot on.. And why UM?? Because of Michigan's NJ connections and his buddy being committed there already
Sometimes it's just the perfect storm. Let's not act like a stud RB going to play for Jim Harbaugh at a resurging program like Michigan isn't a little tempting.
Judging by your sarcastic tone, I'm sure you stayed classy though the whole thing, and that's awsome. I got news for you, there were some that didn't.
And for what.. So we can win by 30 instead of 10.. Maybe get some style points?? I don't get it. It's not worth it to tear a young man down for that.
I don't think you have a lot to worry about. I never got the feeling that CJ supporters were ever JT bashers, so to speak. JT fans are more like the Westboro Baptist Fundamentalists fans.. where as the CJ fans are a little more live and let live type. I doubt that if JT has a sub-par stat line on Saturday, he will be called 'hot garbage' by half the fan base.
Even a great leader like JT might struggle a bit with that.
I can't wait to see this 30 for 30 episode in 10 years...
I missed something. When did someone imply that it had something to do with CJ's emotional stability?
I want to qualify this by saying that I am for starting JT at this point.
I did also think that at the beginning of the year, if all other variables were close to equal, unquestionably the call was to ride the hot hand and start Cardale. When you do what we did in those last 3 games, as a coach, you want to change as little as humanly possible in moving forward. That meant Cardale had to be the guy.
Now, any body with two eyes can clearly see that we are a better, and more effective team with JT in there. So what gives....
Here's a thought. Maybe Urban's theory is this: We are not only trying to win our Big Ten games, we are trying to win championships. Championships are more often than not won by complete teams that can stretch the field. Maybe Urban knows that these SEC teams, with 5 star speed across the board, will eat JT's zone-read-option attack for lunch. Some great teams have won a lot of games with a tricky, slick, read option QB.. but not many have beat the best of the best with it.
But still, Cardale is playing so poorly, so what gives....
Maybe Urban knows that Cardale needs to get better. Maybe his philosophy is that if he can just get Cardale, with his big arm and pocket presence, over the hump, that this team will actually find a higher ceiling than if we just play JT and take on that identity as a read-option offense.
Or maybe Urban struck a back room deal with Cardale where he told him that if he comes back this year that he will be the starter, no matter how bad he is... I just can't imagine.