Edit* - To be clear, our 'depth issues at RB in 2015' only exist if you ship Curtis Samuel off to another position group.
I'm in favor of just running an Alabama style 50/50 or 60/40 split between two stud backs and just keep him at RB. No need to run a college RB until the wheels fall off anyway. 15 carries each per game is fine and then ride the hot hand when it counts. With our schedule there should be an accumulated about 3-4 complete games of garbage time anyway.
I like Curtis Samuel a lot and I want him playing the position that he is the best at. If that is in fact HB, then I'm fine with the switch, or if we had a glaring need/weakness at HB, then I also would be fine with the switch. But in this case, I actually think we have more depth issues at RB in 2015.
Far be it for me to judge the greatest football coach that god ever created.
In Urb I trust.
We need to do better in terms of scheduling. This is pathetic. Maybe the worst Buckeyes schedule in history.
You can blame PSU and TTUN a little bit because they need to get relevant again.
We almost need a ranked Minnesota team to save face.
5th year seniors are no longer kids. I don't agree with the rule, but he can't still be getting the kid-pass.
Cardale Jones will be the only healthy guy in spring, and probably all the way through summer... Combine that with what he did in the post season last year and I don't even think it's a discussion.
If all three were healthy today and competing for the job until next season, I would still put Cardale as the favorite, but I could see either of them earning the spot.
We are going to see a Cardale Jones offense in 2015. JT will compete with Torrance Gibson in 2016.
Not cool man....
I agree and disagree.
Until you have a chance to get to know someone to understand their decisions, you can't really judge their character. The media loves to spin things and misquote people. He may have been asked by a reporter in passing.. "Carleton, are you still 100% Buckeyes?" and on the fly he said yes. Maybe an 'advisor' told him that he should tweet that he is 100% Buckeyes just so nobody else asks. It's a tough time and these kids are trying to navigate the waters as best as possible.
You are right, they are not just 'kids'... They are young men. They should know right from wrong and be held accountable. I think the problem more lies in the recruiting process. It's a long ordeal that consumes these kids(oops, see I just said "kids"). In my opionion, there should be no flipping unless their is a major coaching change. They should sign letters of intent when they commit. They should need to be granted the opportunity to flip by the NCAA if circumstances permit. National signing day should serve only as deadline and truthfully many more of these kids should wait until that deadline to make this decision.
Is there a better source?
I agree with everything you said. And what really impressed me about Zeke is his durability. We leaned on him heavy throughout the post season and he never slowed down. He's big, he's fast, he has the vision, and he is durable. Zeke's performance in those last three games has a historical significance that should also be noted. From now until the end of time, any one of those coffee table books about OSU football that you open, is going to have a chapter talking about what Ezekiel Elliott did in 2014-15. That's pretty special.
Curtis Samuel will have his chance in scarlet and grey, no doubt. I would love to see a thunder and lighting backfield this coming year. Rotate these guys like tires at the Indy 500. Both of them likely have million dollar contracts in their future, and we all know that RB's have a quicker expiration date than most. It seems like running Zeke until the wheels fall off isn't in anyone's best interest.
Let's keep these defenses on their heels and give them more than they can handle.
To be clear, when I say that "not many saw it coming", referring to Zeke becoming a star... It's not to say that nobody saw that kind of potential in Zeke, but it's more to say that not many expected him to rise like Batman in the night, and almost single-handedly defeat all that is evil in the universe.
That sort of ascension, I'm not sure very many people saw coming.
You're no idiot. A lot of people were seeing what you were seeing. Early on, Zeke wasn't making quite the impact that he is now. Curtis Samuel seemed to have that extra gear that I think we all want to see. He just seemed to have that 'it' factor.
Other people saw it as well.. Buckeye team mates were quoted saying that Curtis Samuel and Braxton Miller were the most electric athletes on the team.. Respected guys like Maurice Clarett were tweeting in support of Samuel. Myself and everyone I know were jonesing for #4 like he was our prodigal son.
What happened, that not many saw coming, was the development of a superstar in Zeke Elliott. His last three games were something out of a movie. It's like the announcer said during the championship game broadcast...
"Curtis Samuel may be something very very special, but for now young man, you need to wait in line." (paraphrasing a bit)
Should have quit while you were ahead. :)
I'm down with anything Maurice Clarett... He is my favorite Buckeye of all time. I'm a Youngstown boy myself and I was a Sophomore at OSU when they won the title. I think it literally broke my heart seeing his downward spiral. To see him now happy and healthy brings me joy.
And hearing him talk football is like listening to Warren Buffett talk about money. We will always wonder what could have been with him. He was a true freshman running the football like Jim Brown.
Thanks for the memories Maurice "The Beast"
Your wedding day was really more enjoyable than a Buckeye Championship?
I'm happily married too, but I put an average spring game with some talented new recruits over my wedding day.
That's a no brainer.
My favorite thing about Zeke is that I never gave him any respect. I spent the first half of the season clamoring for his back up. I was convinced that Curtis Samuel was the Rolls Royce Phantom that we had parked in the garage gathering dust while we were driving around in this Jeep Wrangler.
To me, the value of a running back isn't a guy who can break long runs and look pretty necessarily, it's a guy who you can lean on when times are tough. A guy that can punch a defense in the mouth over and over again until you break their will and spirit. Zeke has proven to be all that and then some. He has proven to be something almost out of a comic book. Curtis Samuel will get his chance, and I think he will be everything that I hoped for.. But for now we need to all take a moment to salute this man Ezekiel Elliott. I never gave him any respect, and he took all of it.
My hat is off Mr. Elliott. You are now a Buckeye legend for eternity.
This Ohio State team is an inspiration to me in my life. Every time the moment gets bigger, they just get better. Urban Meyer is the best coach in college football, and I challenge you to find a coach in all of sports with the track record he is amassing.
It's a good day to be a Buckeye!!!!
I have watched football my whole life, and I have never seen anything like this.
Braxton Miller - 2x B1G Off. POY, Could start on 98% of cfb teams in the country.
JT Barrett - Heisman Canidate, All-American with school record numbers and a proven winner. Could be the best QB in cfb in 2015.
Cardale Jones - Physical freak & the strongest arm in cfb, w/ championship experience. Could start on 95% of cfb teams in America.
Torrance Gibson - An RG3/Michael Vick like talent coming, probably could instantly start on 95% of cfb teams in America.
We may have 4 of the top 20 quarterbacks in the country !!!
Braxton should do what is best for him and not worry about anything else. Good luck to him if it is in scarlet & grey, or not.
I would consider shoving fire ants in my underwear for the Joey Bosa game worn.
I would give an arm to see "The Beast" suite up.
Sean Taylor interception.... GIMME THAT!!!
The Kid from Desoto is BACK !!!! All hands on deck for the Big One... Go get em Dontre!!!!
I with you on that.
He had me pooping my pants way too many times in Happy Valley.
I was being a little tongue in cheek with the Rose Bowl comment.. I knew that would ruffle a few feathers. Everybody loves a good Rose Bowl.. But the guys that one the Chick Filet bowl were pretty happy also... not for nothin'.
My point is that times are changing.. and I think it behooves us to take this fundamentalist Buckeyes approach in the era we live in. And it's fun!! nobody get's hurt.. Why can't we be the bad guys for once.. the spoilers.. the party poopers???
I guess we would just have to disagree on this topic, but I guarantee you take a vote in any locker room, on any team in the world, and they will be all for spicing things up and wearing some cool alternate uniforms once in a while.
Don't worry, we can go right back to the milk toast Buckeyes immediately after... To please all the people that still think the Rose Bowl matters.
Curmudgeons!! All of you who don't want any alternate uniforms. This is 2014!! Let your hair down a bit... jeezus!!
Seriously though.. you don't see the value in walking into Happy Valley, Running out on the field in a Beaver Stadium white out game, in front of 110,000 angry PSU fans all wearing white.. And us coming out in some Darth Vader, Ruin your night, welcome to the dark side, all black uniforms.. Black chrome helmets.. Just enough scarlet and Grey trim, that when there concussed brains remember October 25 2014, they will definetly remember how to identify the freight train that just ran right through them...
If that doesn't excite you, I don't even know how to identify with you... and unfortunately neither do most 18 year old recruits.
Yes Dontre is is just fine. Everybody wants the true freshman Heisman candidate these days. He is better this year than last year, and I can only assume he will be better next year than this year. Sometimes guys can plateau after their Junior years, but not too many 19 year old kids are done getting better.
I'm a huge Dontre fan.. and Curtis Samuel also.. and next year Johnnie Dixon is going to be a beast.