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DFW>>>ATL>>>The Ohio State University


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Comment 19 May 2017

Dream16 Scenario: Go back in time and swap Syracuse for Rutgers. Drop Purdue and add Missouri. Add Oklahoma and North Carolina. 

Comment 19 May 2017

I completely agree with your assessment of Matta. His entire career at OSU can be boiled down to 2.5 great recruiting classes and D'Angelo Russell.

Alabama's history is fairly comparable to ours. In between the current coach and the legendary coach we both have had a handful of terrible years (though when they're bad, they are really bad) a few conference titles and one national championship. National Championship level football is cyclical but 7-8 blue blood programs are consistently relevant and competitive within their conferences throughout the decades.

There might only be 4-5 blue bloods in college basketball. It's harder to quantify since the national championship structure is so different. Kentucky's history is much more impressive than Indiana's. But let's compare ours to the Hossiers. Before Matta, we "officially" made the tournament 9 times since 1970 (13 times if we count the O'Brien years). Indiana only missed the tournament 7 times in the same span. In that span, they've had 12 conference titles to our 3 (5 if you count the O'Brien years).  Indiana's recent "rough patch" still includes a handful of conference titles and sweet sixteen appearances. To me that doesn't look cyclical. This doesn't mean that we should accept embarrassing play and decimated recruiting classes. It just means that these these dips aren't abnormal and this specific down slide isn't as bad as it has been before.  

Comment 18 May 2017

My intention was not to excuse a slide, but to explain that we have not experienced a long/sustained period of excellence since the 60s outside of Matta. We should be better (now and historically). As a comparison, so should University of Georgia football. But there's a reason why programs of that stature, in both sports, experience slumps more often than they rationally should. Because being a "blue blood" matters. 

Comment 18 May 2017

I hate being the one to down our program but (again) we need some perspective. The basketbucks were a great program pre-1970. But for 50 years we do not compare favorably to the top schools in the sport, especially if you remove the years that resulted in NCAA sanctions. A school like Arizona would/should not tolerate missing the tournament for 4-5 years. Neither should we but we're not there yet. My point is only that we have reached that specific low before.

As for your last point, you are 100% correct. A top 10 earning coach should not have a let our program get to this condition. If we're being honest, hes been overpaid for a long time

Comment 18 May 2017

I don't think that was the point. I think this was a reminder that we could use a bit of perspective. Ohio State basketball is not a blue blood program. Based on our own recent history, we shouldn't be surprised by an occasional down slide. While today's situation looks bleak, our program has survived worse (on a couple of occasions) during most of our lifetimes. 

Comment 29 Mar 2017

That one exchange represented the entirety of Chris Myers' career. A completely asinine question saved by an incredibly entertaining answer.

Comment 29 Mar 2017

I agree, very crude measurement. Especially since the college regular season means very little compared to the tournament. No ranking would be complete without taking both into consideration. The BasketBucks have had their moments but there's no way we're the 12th best program in the history of college basketball.

Comment 15 Mar 2017

A lot of us had the same expectation. With hindsight, I think we all underappreciated the quality (and quantity) of great WRs that Tressel developed.