Not mentioned: Urban's backups are undefeated 8-0.
Dream16 Scenario: Go back in time and swap Syracuse for Rutgers. Drop Purdue and add Missouri. Add Oklahoma and North Carolina.
That's not a bad thing in some situations. Though that will get you trouble
I completely agree with your assessment of Matta. His entire career at OSU can be boiled down to 2.5 great recruiting classes and D'Angelo Russell.
Alabama's history is fairly comparable to ours. In between the current coach and the legendary coach we both have had a handful of terrible years (though when they're bad, they are really bad) a few conference titles and one national championship. National Championship level football is cyclical but 7-8 blue blood programs are consistently relevant and competitive within their conferences throughout the decades.
There might only be 4-5 blue bloods in college basketball. It's harder to quantify since the national championship structure is so different. Kentucky's history is much more impressive than Indiana's. But let's compare ours to the Hossiers. Before Matta, we "officially" made the tournament 9 times since 1970 (13 times if we count the O'Brien years). Indiana only missed the tournament 7 times in the same span. In that span, they've had 12 conference titles to our 3 (5 if you count the O'Brien years). Indiana's recent "rough patch" still includes a handful of conference titles and sweet sixteen appearances. To me that doesn't look cyclical. This doesn't mean that we should accept embarrassing play and decimated recruiting classes. It just means that these these dips aren't abnormal and this specific down slide isn't as bad as it has been before.
"Like kissing your sister" is both gross and a bad cliche/analogy. Ties are like kissing a pillow. They're both weird and nothing really got accomplished. Argument #2 against soccer.
My intention was not to excuse a slide, but to explain that we have not experienced a long/sustained period of excellence since the 60s outside of Matta. We should be better (now and historically). As a comparison, so should University of Georgia football. But there's a reason why programs of that stature, in both sports, experience slumps more often than they rationally should. Because being a "blue blood" matters.
I hate being the one to down our program but (again) we need some perspective. The basketbucks were a great program pre-1970. But for 50 years we do not compare favorably to the top schools in the sport, especially if you remove the years that resulted in NCAA sanctions. A school like Arizona would/should not tolerate missing the tournament for 4-5 years. Neither should we but we're not there yet. My point is only that we have reached that specific low before.
As for your last point, you are 100% correct. A top 10 earning coach should not have a let our program get to this condition. If we're being honest, hes been overpaid for a long time
I don't think that was the point. I think this was a reminder that we could use a bit of perspective. Ohio State basketball is not a blue blood program. Based on our own recent history, we shouldn't be surprised by an occasional down slide. While today's situation looks bleak, our program has survived worse (on a couple of occasions) during most of our lifetimes.
Never thought it would (or could) get better than the Tressel years. Those were fun times.
I hate ABC/ESPN as much as anyone but their college broadcasts much better than Fox's. Maybe they'll improve since they upped their investment but it's way too similar to their NFL broadcasts for my taste.
This could be a good thing. The Calamity-15 recruiting class could've been the drain on the program. The team could rally next season.
OR...this could lead to a total implosion that brings new leadership.
I knew this program was in trouble after that gaffe
Probably an unpopular opinion but I'd like to see more of the neutral site kickoff games. I don't think we've ever played in cities like Atlanta or Houston. The game in Dallas against TCU will be great. Games against bigger schools would be even better
There was a staffing realignment around that time that might explain the dropoff in OL development.
That one exchange represented the entirety of Chris Myers' career. A completely asinine question saved by an incredibly entertaining answer.
I agree, very crude measurement. Especially since the college regular season means very little compared to the tournament. No ranking would be complete without taking both into consideration. The BasketBucks have had their moments but there's no way we're the 12th best program in the history of college basketball.
Other suburban Fort Worth nicknames included: Pee-Wee, White Ron, Ask and The Ferret. I didn't know the actual names of these geezers until I was well into my twenties.
That dude at my Dad's rec center is nicknamed "The Mailman." He was the exact opposite of NBA legend Karl Malone (5'8'', pudgy, and an actual mailman) except that he could ball. He was mainstay in those old Hoop It Up tournaments back in the 90s.
That Thad was my favorite Thad.
Having friends that lived on Chittenden also took 10 years off my life span.
A lot of us had the same expectation. With hindsight, I think we all underappreciated the quality (and quantity) of great WRs that Tressel developed.
You've got a point seeing how Waco was the city that hit the 100 consecutive days record.
As a southerner, this is true. Though let's not pretend that Ohio wouldn't descend into a Mad Max style anarchy if there were 100 straight days of 100 degree temperatures.
Hope this helps momentum for next year but I'll pass.
That didn't take long.