Yeah, I thought based on the timing (coming off of a UM visit he decided to extend) he was a UM lock for sure. Recruiting sure is a strange thing.
I'm REALLY hoping so. I feel like with his size and athleticism, he could really be a difference maker in the offense. I'm quite curious about the GT transfer Jeff Greene, as well.
Thanks for the insight as always Jeremy!
Personally it doesn't ruffle any feathers for me to hear 2016 guys going elsewhere (James Daniels being the one 2015 guy on that list obv). Over a year till the 2016 signing day says few of those early commitments will stick. Not necessarily any better to be a Michigan squad that gets 2 Top100 picks they couldn't hold on to than it is to be an OSU squad that waits awhile to get their first commit.
Seems like this is the 4th or 5th place I've read over the last few months that Jefferson loves OSU, but that his dad favors a team other than OSU (sometimes it's UT, sometimes it's UGA). Wonder what it is about OSU he doesn't like? Odd situation.
Saw Buckeye great Chris Spielman say on CFL yesterday that he thinks Devin Gardner will have a big year.
He's gotta be trolling, right? After last year (and all that preseason hype for Gardner that fell flat), you'd have to be crazy to think this is Gardner's year. Especially given the fact that Hoke looks anxious to give Shane Morris his shot, I think Gardner's on a short leash this year (which almost never helps a QB develop).
Absolutely. I'm not a "Yay B1G" kind of guy generally, but honestly I think PSU getting back up to the level they'd been at in years past (10-15 years ago) would be a good thing. I get kind of tired of the lack of excitement surrounding the B1G (outside of OSU). Would be nice to see a B1G conference that featured a truly powerful mix of teams again.
IMO the B1G is at its best when OSU, PSU, and UM are elite. Add in really high quality MSU (one of the two best teams in the B1G over the last 5 years), Wisky and Nebraska (Nebraska one of those historical bluebloods, as are OSU, PSU, and UM) teams and you're looking at some GOOD, smash-mouth football. Would love to see the conference at that level again. Getting people excited about the PSU program again is a positive step in that direction.
Keep in mind that today was a win for PSU over FSU, moreso than even over OSU. That is a great sign for anyone who wants to be excited about the B1G beyond OSU. I can understand those who don't care to cheer for the B1G, but I at least want to be able to watch a game featuring PSU and MSU, or PSU and Nebraska and find some excitement in it, rather than the "mehhhhh" reaction I've had over those games in the last several years.
FSU or PSU according to every recruiting writer I've read recently. Majority think PSU, good get for Franklin if so.
IMO the difference between Miller and most other NFL caliber talent I watch on Saturdays/Sundays is touch. He is one of the best deep ball throwers I've seen. Where I'm often disappointed is in the touch of his throws on short and intermediate passes. I've seen this mentioned a lot of other places so I don't think I'm alone in seeing it, but he throws a lot of fastballs on short and intermediate throws that blow one's mind. Whether hitting the turf or flying over the WRs head, his short and intermediate passing game is very inconsistent. If he could develop that touch, I think he could reach that next level and be a 1st Round Draft Pick. Can you develop touch though? I think that's the question. Do some QBs have it naturally? There have been games where I've watched him and thought, he is a FANTASTIC passer (Wisconsin game last year), and others where I just don't see that NFL level accuracy/consistency (Clemson game). Another question I have, is how much (if any) difference did his shoulder issues have on his decline in the passing game from the Wisconsin game mid-year to the Clemson game at the end? I wonder if the hits he has to take game in and game out add up and lead to his passing inconsistencies. Sometimes you see him out there and he just looks winded; I can imagine being out of breath and shaking off a hit from 6'2"/240lber after 6'2"/240lber could make it difficult at times to regain one's focus and establish a consistency in passing form.
In addition to Hodge's excellent recommendations:
Pizza House - great deep dish pizza, amazing garlic cheese bread (super addictive, Pic Here).
Frita Batidos - if you're into something different (that you can't get just anywhere), they have REALLY good/addictive beef fritas w/egg, fries, and their special sauce (Pic Here) and rum batidos (essentially an alcoholic smoothie).
Shalimar - very good (though slightly pricey) Indian food. Someone mentioned Toledo earlier (which is only around 30 minutes from A2, and on the drive back for many of us Ohioans): for my money's worth, I'd recommend Tandoor in Toledo when it comes to anyone willing to give Indian food a shot. By far the best Chicken Tikka Masala of any Indian place I've ever been to in the U.S.; many of my friends disagree with me on that, however haha.
And you're right in that Zingerman's is a must. BIG fan of "Jon and Amy's Double Dip" there (Pic Here).
Really good sandwich! Super pricy though (as is pretty much all of Zingerman's) IMO, but one of those places I feel like you have to try at least once. I like that particular sandwich for a newbie though as it gives you a chance to try both their pastrami and corned beef, as well as both their pumpernickel and rye breads. Good starting point!
Just my opinion, but since Meyer has been here:
2012 - consensus #5 class
2013 - consensus #2 class
2014 - consensus #3 class
2015 - currently #15 class with the potential to grab a few players from a group of: 5* Josh Sweat, 5* Torrance Gibson, 5* Damien Harris, 4* Drew Richmond, 4* Matt Burrell, 4* Neville Gallimore, 4* Jordan Whitehead, 4* Michael Weber, 4* Lawrence Cager, (flip) 4* Jerome Baker, etc. The addition of Gibson, Harris and Burrell alone would put OSU's class at #4 as of this moment. There is still PLENTY of time for OSU's 2015 class to be a top 5, even top 3 class in the country.
Over the last 3 recruiting classes, only Alabama has a higher average. And as you mentioned, it is incredibly early to read anything into 2016's class. I will say this though, I'd be shocked if getting a top-5 in the country QB in Dwayne Haskins, Jr. won't light a match under that class, as well. Not trying to dissuade you from how you're feeling -- as you mentioned, you're primarily just voicing your friends' opinions -- but it's very likely that OSU will finish 2015 and 2016 with two top 5 classes. No one other than Alabama does that for 5 years straight, so recruiting is the last thing I'm personally worried about.
Thank you for the insight, Jordan!
I noticed 2015 WR Lawrence Cager just asked him to FB with him on Twitter, which Chambers retweeted. Got a feeling Cager wants to know where Chambers is going, and may try to do some last minute OSU campaigning.
Hmm. Commitment fresh off of a Michigan visit? Doesn't look good for the Buckeyes. Unless he saw all of the BBQ-eating he needed to know it wasn't the right place for him.
Any take Birm or Jordan? Also, anyone know when the last time he visited OSU was? Was he at FNL? That could be a giveaway.
Not to bring up a sore subject, but I noticed a few players from Cleveland Benedictine made it to FNL and Jerome Baker wasn't one of them. I don't believe he made it to Florida's FNL either, though FWIW. I was hoping Baker would continue his relationship with OSU and FNL seemed like a good opportunity to get back in with him. Based on what you've seen following OSU recruiting for several years now, what do you think will be OSU's approach with Baker at this point? Do you think they'll press hard to get him to make visits and actively attempt to change his mind, or do you think they'll take a more passive approach and essentially say, "If he wants to take a visit, great, otherwise no problem" and actively pursue other OLBs for that spot? Related question, any idea whether Florida has a no-visit policy for committed recruits (ala Michigan's); I suppose that would effect whether or not Baker visits?
Come on now TCOB_6! Who needs a flashy, gif-posting, source-having, impressive vocabulary-using 5* out of state poster when you have a hardworking, blue-collar, brings his lunchpale to work, content-heavy kind of 3* poster from right in your own backyard?
I have faith, we just need to set him up with the right (write?) coaching. Give him a few days with Hov, Andy Vance, even BassDropper and this guy will be pumping out 5* quality posts in no time!
It's smart for you to wait on a commitment. I've heard Birm has been flirting with some NFL website offers.
Richmond is an interesting case, though. Although I think you're accurate in calling him a Tennessee lean now, early on he looked like a sure thing in OSU's 2015 class. He rooted them on for months on twitter, chatted with OSU guys like Demetrius Knox and Jamarco Jones regularly, etc. So I think OSU still has a real shot at Richmond before it's all said and done.
Wonder if this pushes fellow Cass Tech-er RB Michael Weber towards OSU (have read a few places that he was already really high on OSU)?
No doubt. I didn't mean my post to sound like I don't think getting Moore isn't a HUGE get. Kid has offers from OSU, FSU, and Oklahoma -- that tells you all you need to know about his talent. Also read in Birm's piece that he's a cancer survivor. I'll be ecstatic to root him on at OSU!
I'll take Birm's word for it as good as gold. Part of the reason I asked is because Scout's Bill Greene seems to feel it may mean no offer for Conrad.
I'm happy with Moore, though. Would be nice to get 2 TEs in the class given none in the '14 class (barring Hubbard who's moved to TE).
Congrats to Josh Moore and OSU!
Maybe insensitive to ask here, but I'd assume that means CJ Conrad to OSU is now a no-go?
On JP: Based on the recruiting writers I followed at the time, it sounded like he didn't enjoy the lack of individual attention he got on his visit (which I personally feel if true, he should have expected to some degree as they were visiting during Student Appreciation Day, a time when the staff is busy interacting with OSU students/fans), and he was soured a bit by the fact that he expected his friend and teammate Juwann Bushell-Beatty (eventual Michigan commit) to get an OSU offer on their visit, but it never came. On Hand: According to a poster on 11w who claims to have gone with Hand on his first OSU visit (Hand went on a second with Tim Settle that was a little better, but was likely too late in his decision process to give OSU any renewed shot), Hand felt like he didn't get the individual attention he was looking for either (IIRC he visited during the OSU-Michigan game in Columbus), and didn't feel like he was treated that well/welcomed by the OSU players themselves. IMO, they probably were too occupied with beating TTUN to really focus on putting out the red carpet for a recruit.
The thing that I think is interesting with the way Peppers and Hand's recruitments went, is that they both visited on BIG days for the OSU program when the OSU staff's concerns were likely on other things (Student Appreciation Day, The Game, etc). They probably expected the red carpet to be rolled out, and when it wasn't (to no fault of the OSU staff), I imagine they were shocked/turned off. Just my opinion, I hold no hostility towards Peppers or Hand, you're not going to hit a home run with every recruit. I think the combo of Webb + Lattimore at CB (in '15), and Jashon Cornell at SSDE (in '16) more than make up for Peppers and Hand personally, so I'm not bothered by those misses at all.
Sounds like you should be in the market for this bad boy, then:
It'll be interesting to see how MSU turns out this year. The Oregon game will be tough, but if they manage to win somehow, I'll be curious to see whether MSU can sustain it the rest of the year. They're a great underdog, chip on their shoulder kind of team. But being the front-runner/favorite and continuing to be successful is something else entirely. A different kind of challenge completely.