+1 Referencing that Alabama Sugar Bowl. That pass play Urban said they did it because Bama was lined up in a bear front, so you weren't going to gain any yards on the ground and they thought it was worth chucking it deep and try to get a pass interference call (so not even to primarily complete the pass! Simply force the D to make an unforced error and really give us the game.). Also in that game, do not forget we were losing the turnover battle (as NE was to ATL), best way to overcome that is to keep the foot on the throttle. You can't turn it over (and give away points and fall behind) then dial it back.
Also funny thing about that 93 Bill-Oilers game is that both teams' offenses were employing the (aggressive) Run and Shoot offense.
I don't know...fear is a dangerous thing. If you start to play to not lose (grind the clock) you might win, but you may just lose anyway. If you play to win, and be aggressive, you might win, but you could also lose.
I'm no expert, but while Atlanta does have a good rushing attack, they also have a top-QB and WR. I respect that Shanahan was trusting in his talent to win the game. On the other side it appeared Patricia brought more pressure and chaos to get after Ryan (surely opening them up to bigger risks in the secondary) - on the defensive side he was also being aggressive and playing to win. You can argue that they should've focused on grinding the clock and playing not to lose, but I kind of respect that they stayed after it and looked to score one more time to seal it. In the end, who knows....
I guess it's pretty accurate to the '68 but I'm getting nostalgic for the oversized numbers of the '90s-early '00s jerseys.
BROOKLYN STAND UP!
We absolutely have to fix the passing game to think we have a shot at winning. I'm wondering if the problem goes beyond 'too many cooks in the kitchen' issues with Meyer/Beck/Warriner and doesn't go all the way down to bad positional coaching by Zach Smith. The receivers have been bad all year, is the the playcalling or player execution/coaching?
So now I'm starting to think that maybe it's Urban. We seem to play completely differently in the biggest games. We're way too conservative. It's as if Tressel never left at times. Once we lose, we seem to say "screw it" and just play carefree and put up 40+ against whoever we're playing. But if everything's still on the line, then we've definitely seemed to play not to lose.
I think you've put a finger on the issue here. Prior to the MSU game (when it became clear PSU would likely win out) I thought there was a possibility Urban would open it up and aim to drop points on MSU and UM - ala UW in 2014 B1G CG. Instead the exact opposite happened, we clammed up and eked out very close wins. The constant in the equation is Urban. Granted, he's generally very very good at what he does, lead the team. But something is amiss since Herman left, I agree with all observations that the Warriner/Beck/Urban trio is to blame. Too many cooks in the kitchen and really I think Urban should be the first to stay out - leave it to the guys who have the time and expertise to really focus on the offense (Urban was never an OC).
I follow the USMNT mostly from a distance in between major competitions but was a big supporter of Klinsmann and his hiring. It just seemed like he was fighting a lot of battles that were always going to be very difficult to win, but I think he was right about a number of them.
A victory of UM is always to celebrated. But in the larger context that game didn't age well, like just more than a month. Now 10 years on it seems like that was a kind of high point for Big Ten football followed by a valley of lows that lasted until 2014 (at least for OSU), and perhaps 2016, for the conference as a whole (let's hope that isn't premature to say the B1G is back).
That's along the lines of what I do with my fantasy team. I have Buckeyes, Ohio-born players, Ohio-college players (for example Edelman from Kent St), along with Browns and Bengals players. My team still sucks, on the way to 3-7.
Vico, you warming to Auburn? ;-)
FWIW I like GBE Ratings: http://www.gberatings.com/sos/
Doesn't conflate anything with future predictions, it's just a straight up ranking of what's been accomplished to date.
Thank you. I perused the old polls after the Penn State loss and knew it would come in handy.
Almost exactly 6 months ago 36% of respondents to a poll on a prominent Ohio State blog didn't even think the football team would make the playoff, let alone win it all.
My belief remains that we should never see 2 teams from the same conference get into the playoff, especially 2 teams from the same division of a conference (Alabama and Texas AM in this case). The idea that a team could finish second in their division, then skip the conference championship game, and still get into the playoff just does not equate for me.
I could perhaps in some very rare instance wrap my brain around the 2 teams that play in the conference championship game then getting into the playoff, but never a divisional runner-up.
Lot of football to go...
It's gotten to the point that I just CTRL-F: Auburn to see what hateful things Vico has to say about the other Clemson ;-)
I'm not saying OSU has lesser talent! Not at all. But you do have to look at the depth of Alabama and agree they're on another echelon (I refer to the Phil Steele composite numbers, almost every position player for them is a PS top 10).
My earlier point is that he took BGSU and won a lot of games immediately with the talent left over from the previous staff. Same at Utah. You can't tell me that the talent at both of those places was demonstrably better than their opponents. His system won with less.
Now, yes, once you climb that ladder and get to a Florida (where again, he won immediately with Zook recruits - which were yes good) and an Ohio State you certainly get talent that is better than almost anyone else in each respective conference. But now we're off of the main premise of the conversation, which was about the true thesis about Urban's offense. And my disagreement with DJ's comment is that that thesis is about getting players in space - and I should add something I forgot earlier - that it's about getting players in space while also keeping the ball on the ground through a power running game. That is what has historically differentiated him from the spread offenses of the Air Raid variety (but again, those are also offenses that can make lesser talent perform at much higher levels).
Hey now, Auburn is sneakily shaping up to be one of the stronger squads out of the SEC!
So isn't that also a major weakness though of Chryst's offense? That after the Jet-Sweep there isn't much else to stretch a defense?