Poor decision... but it's not a big deal. I'm certain the Cowboys have made clear to Zeke that he MUST use better discretion specific to the people with whom he's associating and the places he's frequenting. Time to move on from this, imo.
I've got a herniated disk in my back, along with two other bulging disks... and I can see the exact point at which Romo was hurt. I can feel it, actually. I'm a Cowboys fan, but if Tony Romo makes it through the 2016 season I'll be more than surprised. Once your back goes, unless it's very simply ONE disk pressing on A nerve that a surgeon can clearly define as being THE problem, well, playing football (or tennis or golf for that matter, but especially football) WILL cause "flareups" ad nauseam. As for Zeke (nice block, btw) and his poor decisions... give a 21 year old tens of millions of dollars, free rein in major cities, and poor decisions will almost certainly ensue. It's incumbent on guys like Romo and Witten to help the kid, because that's what he is, avoid places and circumstances that result in TMZ videos and Jerry Jones' wrath.
KISS is absolutely a seminal rock band and anyone who disputes that need look no further than interviews with everyone from Mötley Crüe to Pearl Jam to Nine Inch Nails to Alice in Chains to Rush to Pantera to Tom Morello, and many, MANY more. Hate on them all you want, as I'm sure many will today, but be seasoned enough to give credit where credit is due.
You should be comforted knowing it's not your call -- but somehow this need to tell someone (Joey Bosa) how best to handle his personal business (it is just business) is animating you into altering your view of the aforementioned human being.
This is a place for the 11w/Buckeye community to opine. That's what I'm doing as this particular story is interesting to me. I'm not telling Bosa "how best to handle his business"... as if this is where a player goes to solicit advice as to how to best negotiate his contract. In addition, my opinion of Joey Bosa is limited to what I've read about him as an Ohio State football player and his contract negotiation hasn't altered that opinion one ounce. It's confusing to me. That's all, nothing more. However it ends up will have zero impact on me... I'm just killing time on 11W.
I hear you, and those are very good points... a convincing argument. I do live in Columbus and love listening to Spielman during the season on local radio, but too much of the rest of the local content, imo, is air filler, not in-depth Buckeye football talk. Guys trying to be funny, trying to relate to the listener on a personal level, telling stories about their kids or their vacation... There's very little filler on MOST national shows (Dan Le Batard is nothing but filler), but the trade off is that it's national content, which includes Ohio State football but isn't exclusive to Ohio State football. If the local content was Spielman or Stanley Jackson for 4 hours then I'd never turn the dial... but that's not typically what you get on 97.1. Unless there's a big story, i.e. a player suspension or a big win or loss, then the local shows can be as much about something "funny" one of the host's kids did as it is about OSU football. Again though, I hear you and I sympathize with your predicament specific to lack of Buckeye talk where you live.
"Bosa's Camp Responds"
Not really. They added absolutely nothing to the debate, not that they have to or that it would matter, but their response was, essentially, that they won't respond/negotiate via the press. Again, they certainly aren't obligated to respond to the Chargers' statement, but their non-response response doesn't help Joey Bosa's bottom line or his public perception.
I absolutely respect your opinion. It's well stated... but I disagree entirely. When you're making a stand of principle over a 5k raise, or a promotion with a caveat you don't think is fair, well, I can get on board with that. In my opinion, however, one does not make a stand of principle and walk away from 17 million dollars of life altering money for you and your family. Certainly not over the difference of getting all of the money paid out now Vs seven months from now. Bosa's walking away from tens of millions (and the amount of the bonus isn't in dispute or being labeled as unfair, btw) over a 200ish day timeframe specific to its complete payout. If, and I say IF that's essentially the reason for the impasse, then the holdout becomes more unfathomable to me by the day.
I agree... with a caveat. I think Columbus local radio's overt inclination to hiring former Buckeyes is, sometimes, to their detriment. Spielman, Herbstreit (who I personally dislike but his talent as an on air personality is undeniable) and Stanley Jackson (WTVN) are/were examples of guys who are good and deserving of being on air talent, both locally and nationally. Then you have guys like Bobby Carpenter (doesn't present like the brightest bulb in the batch, imo), Jerry Rudzinski (the human sleeping pill), Beanie Wells (slow down, I can't understand you), Dee Stanley (nice guy, bad radio personality) and, to a lesser degree, Craig Krenzel (well spoken, but immature guy who was drunk on live radio more than once) who are hired ONLY because of their OSU careers, imo. In other words, if the first group of players mentioned never played a down for Ohio State they'd still have on air jobs, but that second group... they're just not very good (again, with the exception of Krenzel, who failed for other reasons)... and when you have to listen to Bobby Carpenter for three hours a day it gets very tedious. Taste in radio personalities is subjective, I realize, so I'm sure there are many who'll disagree with my opinions specific to these guys, but local "talent" can sometimes be so unlistenable (common man) that a national show, despite its lack of OSU specific content, is sometimes a better option.
Let me ask you a question, JakeBuckeye... to what end and to what benefit is Joey Bosa "taking a stand" in this negotiation of profit to him? Are the Chargers being obstinate? Yes, on this just about everyone agrees. Having said that, and other than Bosa not kowtowing to the big, bad NFL franchise, how is Joey holding out going to be to his and his family's betterment? I just don't see how it is. How is someone who will receive 17 million by March of 2017 getting "blatantly screwed" by his employer? As I mentioned below, IF Bosa continues to hold out over what is essentially a seven month delay in getting 100% of his 17 million dollar guarantee (Bosa wants all of it, or close to all of it, in 2016 and San Diego wants to portion it out over the next seven months, or from now thru March of '17) he'll simply be cutting off his nose to spite his face. In other words, he STILL gets 17 million dollars if he signs today... he just won't get all of it in 2016. It's still guaranteed. By holding out he's walking away from 17 million dollars in guaranteed bonus, from a year's salary, from a season's experience... all so he can take a stand and not let the Chargers continue to bully their draft picks? Let someone else be the martyr. Bosa could get hit by a bus tonight and then he and his family are absolutely screwed. If I'm Bosa, and none of us are, I'd sign so fast there would be smoke coming from the pen.
Why would 1460 air a show in Columbus, Ohio that is, as far as I know, directly and overtly SEC centric? I mean, that'd be like them airing a show based in Austin that is Longhorn specific with Big12 flavor. How does this content interest people in Columbus? I don get it... unless this is an ESPN syndicated program that will NOT be SEC specific, but will instead be a national college football show.
I support Bosa too... but he has very little leverage here. The owners/teams have all the leverage in the NFL. What does JB have to gain by sitting out the year? His stock will decline and he'll have been out of football for a season... and he'll have no money. None. Hell, he could get hurt tonight walking across the street in the Gaslamp district and then Joey AND his family, both current and future, would be out of luck. Even if the Chargers are cheapskates and the entire league knows it, if Joey were to sign today he would still make enough guaranteed money to support himself, his immediately family and his future family in a lifestyle of luxury for the next several generations. The fans will pay to watch the games, they'll buy Chargers hats and jerseys and support the team whether Joey Bosa is in uniform or not. I agree with those saying a player needs to money grab asap due to the league's contract structure with its players and the injury factor, etc., but unless I'm missing something Bosa is guaranteed about 17 million dollars with this contract by mid 2017. The sticking point, as I understand it, is that the Chargers want to pay JB his guaranteed money in portions through March of '17 rather than nearly 100% of it in 2016, like Carson Wentz, for eg. Guaranteed is guaranteed. It isn't like the guaranteed portion is 3 million or San Diego wants to hold onto it for two years.... it's seventeen million dollars and it'll be paid in full within seven months... again, as I understand it. That's an unbelievable amount of money to walk away from for any reason.
Good points. Clearly, OSU's win in the playoff Vs Alabama wasn't a fluke. I know Ohio State is on par with the entire SEC and would absolutely be competing for championships in that league. Ohio State out recruits that entire conference, save 'Bama, every year. For anyone in the south to think otherwise is just foolish. Now, is MSU in the same boat? Not in my opinion. They simply do not recruit like you need to in order to consistently win in a league like the SEC. TTUN is recruiting at a high level, not an OSU level, but a high level. I believe with another class or two under his belt that Harbaugh could compete with his team in that league. I think 'Bama blowing out MSU would have happened 7 out the next 10 games they played... and the remaining three would still probably all be Alabama wins. MSU was clearly out classed, out-talented, out-athleted in that game. The only thing on the MSU sideline that was equal to 'Bama was the coaching staff. Dantonio and his staff are very good coaches... but being only solid recruiters in that league will get you what they got in last years playoff game Vs 'Bama. The B1G as a whole IS closing the talent gap with the SEC... but not nearly to the extent that's necessary. Only Ohio State is recruiting ABOVE an SEC level. To a lesser extent, TTUN is recruiting at an "SEC level". The rest of the upper tier programs; MSU, Nebraska, PSU, Iowa are not doing enough in the living rooms to catch up, imo.
Maybe I misunderstood your point re: Tressel couldn't win against big-time opponents... but beating Oregon in the Rose Bowl, Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl, and some top 15-25 B1G teams (PSU, TTUN) on the road were, imo, big wins. I get what you're saying, but I think Tressel gets shortchanged by the 'he couldn't win the big game anymore' crowd. He did win big games after that 06 title loss. Big, national games. Are things better with Meyer? Absolutely... but that's because of how elite Urban Meyer is, NOT because of how crappy Tressel became, because that just didn't happen. Tress was an elite coach... it's just that Meyer is, undeniably, one of the best in D1 college football history.
This was the beginning of the "end" for Coach Tressel. This team was loaded, we thought, and to go to the title game, a game most were picking the Buckeyes to win, and to get blown out, not only in embarrassing fashion, but in such a way that emphasized the athletic difference between OSU's offensive line and the defensive lines of (most of) the SEC set the program back a ways. Most thought going into this game that Ohio State was on the very edge of a dynasty decade... but it was not to be. Tressel's teams rebounded nicely, winning some more big, national games, i.e. Rose and Sugar Bowls, TTUN beatdowns, etc... but the kind of run most of us expected was destroyed on that January night in Arizona. On a side note, the 2006 unis were the best Ohio State had worn since the Hayes era. The only change I would have made would have been to the jersey stripe; Bruce era stripe would have been gone and the gray and white Hayes "Buckeye stripe" would have been resurrected yet again.
You can't just fabricate tradition. It doesn't work that way. You have to win for decades, and not just a decade or two, Oregon. UCF wants to fast forward to the point in time that their football program is a tradition laden power, but since that's impossible they're doing, in their insane collective mind, the next best thing... they're manufacturing the illusion of tradition by building a statue for a guy they want people to believe started something special at UCF. What they'll get instead is relentless lambasting by everyone not affiliated with UCF... and probably by some who ARE affiliated with the school.
Wait... they're paying Luke Fickell a million per? When did this happen? Last I heard he was paid 640(ish)k annually. He took a small pay cut from his 750k/year failed head coach experiment in 2011, but I don't remember hearing that he was bumped to a million a year. If Ohio State is paying Luke Fickell a million bucks a year someone needs to have their head examined.
I have read Brad Taylor and I like his stuff, yes. The latest Rapp novel was Ok, not horrible by any means, but Mitch has become a kinder and gentler version of his old Vince Flynn authored self. That greatly decreased my enjoyment of the book. Solid plot line, decent writing... but not nearly as much Mitch Rapp beating the holy dog snot out of some anti American terrorist.
Yet it's still ranked BEHIND Alabama's class in the Rivals 2017 rankings. Unbelievable...
If you're a dog lover, The Art of Racing in the Rain is a must read. Enjoyable novel...
I read the new Mitch Rapp series novel as soon as it was available... and, relative to Vince Flynn's Rapp work, I was disappointed. It was a solid book, but it was not the Mitch Rapp of Vince Flynn's creation. Having said that, if/when a new Rapp edition is ready I'll be in line to buy it.
They just updated. Ohio State is up to... number 2, behind 'Bama.
Not even 50% of the projected starters are Ohioans. No, I'm not bitching about it, and no I'm not tremendously disappointed... but it just doesn't feel right. I think, altho I could be wrong, that the 2002 national championship team had 17 of 22 Ohioans starting the title game. The two deep had even more of an Ohio 'flavor'. That Ohio State football was always dominated by Ohio players was always a source of pride for me. Oh well, it's a new day I guess... and I certainly won't complain about the players Meyer is bringing in.
Thank you... much appreciated.
I follow recruiting closer than many, but not to the extent that some on here do. For those who religiously follow the rankings, when did the Ohio State class fall to 4th, per Rivals? Granted, this is BEFORE the adjustment for Lindsey and Grimes... but when I visited Rivals earlier today I was very, VERY surprised to see the class ranked 4th behind 'Bama, LSU and OU. All we hear is "number one class", possibly the "best class ever recruited" since the 247 composite rankings began... and I go to Rivals for the first time in a few weeks and they have OSU at 4. Does Rivals have a different system for ranking players than do 247, ESPN and Scout?