Traitors... plain and simple.
Satisfying to me? 1979. I grew up during the 10 year war, and the end of the war was devastating. Three straight losses, '76-78, was something I couldn't wrap me mind around. Earl Bruce's first year, after Woody's firing/resigning, was unchartered territory. The uniforms changed somewhat (I didn't like the change then and I didn't like the return of those Bruce era uni's two years ago either, but I digress...), the greatest coach in college football history was gone and TTUN had ascended to the conference bully. That win at TTUN in 1979 was such a relief. The Buckeyes weren't going away... they were right back to where they were supposed to be; Big Ten Champions and headed to the Rose Bowl.
The results this year speak for themselves. The QB play has been far, far less than what it was last year, and the offense as a whole is dramatically different than last year... or the year before that.
If they play a tough game and lose on some fufu, I can live with that.
This? This is what one loss, albeit one horrible and pathetic loss, does to the psyche of the author? OSU is the more talented team. The athletes at Urban Meyer's disposal are superior in quantity and quality, and by a decent margin, to those coached by Jim Harbaugh. A loss, no matter how close, is never acceptable. When it becomes acceptable to lose as long as you played your best and the game was furiously contested, well, you've officially become something less than Ohio State, imo.
It's not what Elliott said, it's the public forum he used to express what should have been a private conversation. I can only assume that the divide here is generational. There are way too many people saying that Elliott was well within his rights to PUBLICLY say what he said. I don't understand that thinking. You don't question your coaches publicly. You don't attack your coaches in the media. That is the code. As bothered as I was by the way in which Ohio State lost this game, I was that much more upset with Elliott's immature and disloyal comments. Privately, behind closed doors at the Woody, argue/question/debate all you want... but never, ever, never air the teams dirty laundry in the media. That is horribly bad form. For all those saying 'Meyer publicly chastises the players all the time... why is he the exception?' Well, he's the head coach. He's the authority. He's the man in charge. He's the adult in the room and he knows what's in the best interest of his players and his team. This is an old fashioned philosophy apparently, but 18-22 year old kids should respect the coaching staff, or at the very least they should publicly, if not privately, respect the coaches. Disagree with them all you want to, but do not back stab them in the media.
Zeke, in my opinion, was out of bounds with his comments. Whether he's right or not (I believe he was mostly right, btw) is beside the point. It is a cardinal sin of the highest order in team sports to air your dirty laundry outside of the locker room, and most especially to the media. From my perspective, it was a very bad moment for EzE. A moment in time that I believe he'll regret one day. Urban Meyer is more than twice your age. He's been around the block a few times and as a result knows quite a bit more than you. Respect him enough to not publicly call into question his obvious and admitted failing during the game. As disappointed as I was in the game, I was even more bothered by Elliott's post game comments and, essentially, his declaring for the draft. To be clear, I'm not the least bit bothered by Zeke going pro. I would too... but the timing of the announcement was another mistake by 15.
He's the defensive coordinator. He has the title, makes the money and has final say over all things defense. I'm not blaming Fickell alone, per se, but it's his show on that side of the ball, and for the entirety of the time that it's been his show the product has ranged from absolutely terrible to solid and everything in between. What it has never been is elite. The offensive ineptitude far outpaced the defensive failings today... but the defense wasn't particularly good, and when it mattered most they had the ball run down their collective throat by a squad that had been rotating two second team quarterbacks all day AND by a whole bunch of Ohio kids who played like they were pissed that Ohio State had snubbed them, instead favoring players from the south and the east coast when they were being recruited.
I'm old school and I don't like those comments. It's bad form for a 20 year old kid to publicly attack his coaching staff. In addition, the "I was in the hospital with a 103* fever" comment sounds like an excuse. Whether Zeke's right or not is beside the point... you just don't publicly disparage and/or question your coaches, imo.
I hope he plays. Buckeyes roll either way...
Ive given tix away to every home game this year with the exception of PSU. I sold those. I look for kids and/or dads with their sons/daughters looking for tix at the stadium prior to the game. Again, not my tix/price. If this is offensive or the good folks at 11w think it inappropriate then please feel free to remove the thread. I was simply relaying an opportunity to buy tix, at the sellers price, to anyone who might be interested. Sorry to have upset anyone. It was certainly not my intent.
No way. If it wasn't a certainty before, and I believe it was, with Nick's injury the staring the family in the face, Joey is gondi...
This guy lives to 'poke the bear'... otherwise known as the Ohio State community.
LOL... but wait, she can beat Floyd Mayweather, Tank Abbott and every other man dumb enough to day she can't. What a joke. Again, I know a high school wrestler who could beat the holy dog crap out of Rhonda, not that he would because, you know, she's just a girl.
If USC or Texas (?) offer Tom Herman, well, he HAS to take the job. SC and UT are two of the five most storied, tradition laden programs in college football history. They're places where national titles are expected... and realistically so. Short of a 'USC/UT situation' Herman stays at Houston. But to stay at a mid major when a USC is calling? That wouldn't be mensa-esque. Now, if Herman wants to decline South Carolina's overtures, I get that. If Illinois or Rutgers or Purdue or even Miami came calling and Herman said 'thanks but no thanks', I would certainly understand that... but not SC/UT. If they offer, you run as fast as you can to LA or Austin.
Why on earth would Maryland hire a guy who bombed in the NFL with the Raiders, bombed and bolted at Tennessee, and bombed at USC? And that's not even taking into consideration what an absolute ass of a human being he is.
I'd love to punch Forde right in his ovary. I loathe that guy...
...and I'm sure Herbstreit just sat idly by whilst that senile kook, Corso, and that simple little minion, Howard, ran their pie holes. Imagine that.
S. Carolina is Dantonio's alma mater. If he goes there, which would really stun me as he has something very good going at MSU, it would be out of loyalty to the program for which he played.
Oh thank God. Selling 'em means they'll never again see the light of day on an Ohio State player for a collegiate football game. That was a huge swing and miss for Nike and whatever taste challenged person is consorting on Ohio State's behalf with Phil Knight's evil empire in Oregon... in my opinion.
Agree in totality with the OP. BTN employing Pat Forde is dumbfounding. Why they would choose to pay this assclown, handsomely by the way, to bash the very product for which the network exists is one of the most absurd "talent" decisions I've ever seen. The on air BTN personalities are bad in general; Gerry DiNardo, J Leman and that ridiculous female "analyst" are all below average to horrible, but at least they toe the company line. But Pat Forde? That's nonsensical, imo.
First, whether those wearing scarlet colored glasses like it or not, the OP poses a fair question based on recent complications. In addition, that jbook tweet is spot on. It just is. I said as much many months ago (I also said how happy I was with the surgery Chris Keading performed on my knee, but that's neither here nor there). The point is that there have been numerous failed surgical repairs to high profile players (plus the Jamel Dean "situation") in the past three years. Run of bad luck? Sure, it could be. Docs who aren't at the top of their game? Unlikely at a place such as Ohio State, but possible. For all we know, for every failed surgery that gets press these doctors have five success stories that none of us ever read about... and that 5:1 ratio is considered outstanding. I don't know, I'm just spitballing... but in my opinion it's a fair and interesting question that BGSUBucksFan is asking. Like the coaches, the medical staff is very, VERY well compensated for the services performed. If the Buckeyes are losing games the coaches will be questioned. Similarly, if numerous players surgically repaired joints aren't holding up then these docs, who are paid handsomely for their skill, will be second guessed and talked about.
God it pisses me off when kids have no chance to live their life. I'm 51... I've lived the majority of my life, experienced many things - including cancer - and I'll never, ever, never be able to wrap my mind around a five year old with this horrible disease. God bless you, kid.
Not to sound too Alan Iverson-ish, but this practice stuff seems a tad overrated specific to this never ending quarterback controversy. Cardale Jones 'out practiced' JT Barrett all of camp and for the first six or so weeks of the season... but come the actual game it certainly didn't show. Barrett, as has been obvious to everyone with the exceptions of Urban Meyer, Tim Beck and Ed Warriner, is the far superior choice to quarterback this team (no, I don't think I know more than coaches Meyer, Beck or Warriner. I'm just expressing opinions). I know, everything is a competition and telling Barrett he's the starter might cause him to not prepare as hard/thoroughly or to ease up in his intensity. Just say 'Barrett is "The Guy" and barring injury and or another off field blunder he'll start the rest of the season'... however long that might be. This 'maybe he'll start, maybe he won't' act is growing old, in my opinion.