Hove, while I can see how one might feel that way, with the quarterback room Meyer has built at Ohio State, I would be stunned if Burrow, Haskins, Martell or Emory Jones don't instead make us say, "Look what could have been had JT been as good thru the air as he was with his legs".
Sorry, GB... I've got absolutely nothing POSITIVE to add, however, so today it's all yours. Enjoy.
People can cite all the stats and awards they want to, and throw out PURE exaggerations like, "Barrett's the greatest quarterback ever at Ohio State"... Barrett, as good as he is with his legs, is equally bad as a passer. Watch the games. That's all. Barrett struggles throwing the football, and he has for two years now, progressively getting worse until peaking, or reaching his nadir, in the playoff game. All his fault? Nope. The line's pass pro sucked, and the receivers... sigh. Barrett, however, clearly is lacking in half of the necessary skill set any quarterback should possess.
A.B.R. Emphasis on A.
All you NFL haters on here... you dumbfound me. This is GREAT football.
And now Taylor Swift is the new Eddie Van Helen
That's quite possibly the dumbest sentence ever written on 11W (no offense intended, JCL. I know you're referring to the article). What kinda Justin Bieber loving crank suckers do they employ at that rag these days? Whatever...
Witten's a first ballot HOF'er. One whiff does not a poor blocker make... bad tho it was
This pre game BS is THE most annoying clown show in sports. It's absurdly overdone...
I'm not too much for 60's psycahadelic rock music (Zeppelin and Sabbath were hard rock bands... a different genre, imo, and all hit their stride in the 70s), except for Hendrix. He was the king, and well ahead of his time musically. His music doesn't sound like 60s genre psychedelic rock to my ear. It's better than most of the rest. Hendrix was THE recognized guitar hero for my friends and I... until Edward Van Halen came along. As pure guitar Gods, Hendrix and EVH are equals, one is not better than the other, really, but as song writers, well, that's where Van Halen separates himself from JH... at least in my opinion. Having gotten that out of the way, I have to ask... who is this Joe Bonamassa guy I keep seeing on infomercials and reading about??? Does he write his own music, or is he a covers only guitar player??? I'd never heard the name until recently...
Well, Knox, Taylor, and Trout have/had been here for three years, and Knox appears unready, at best, Taylor seems incapable at this point, and Trout is now gone. It also seems that a player like Matt Burrell should be much further along/contributing much more, having spent almost two full years in the program now. The O-Line has a depth issue... of both quality depth and quantity of depth. Based on what we saw in 2016, Ohio State has three solid players in that room right now; Jordan, Jones and Price.
This guy is incredibly talented. Here he is with a child's toy guitar playing Sabbath's N.I.B... sounding fantastic. I mean, it's to be admired. Wow...
Not at Safety. Top 15, yes. Top 3... I'd be stunned.
Someone could say, "JT hasn't been very good throwing the football the past two years" and that person would be accused by 50% of the 11w commentariat of being 'negative'. Half of this community is butt hurt, sensitive, and whiny. Say what you wanna say, who gives a rip what the rainbows, sunshine and Urban is omnipotent crowd thinks. As long as it's stated respectfully, and within 11W's commenting parameters, then those who think any opinion contrary to, "The Buckeyes live in a glass tower of perfection... free of flaws and defects" will have to settle for expressing themselves with the usual name calling and down voting.
Ok... thanks for the reply, much appreciated.
I don't understand... Ohio State has dropped to number 2 behind ttun in the B1G "power" rankings, but OSU's class is ranked higher than ttun's class in 3 of 4 national rankings (247, ESPN and Rivals). What is a "power ranking" Vs recruit class ranking? Are they the same thing? Are these rankings specific only to what happened in January? Are these Mr. Gutridge's personal rankings? I see in the composite ranking OSU is still ranked above ttun... but in the B1G ranking they're ranked behind *ichigan. In addition, it SEEMS that schools gain an advantage when they have larger classes, regardless of the quality of the players relative to Ohio State. Why would class size, quantity, give a school an advantage if the players are of lower quality?
We have to be the same age (53). Closest I got to a Led Zeppelin show was The Song Remains The Same film. I saw all the other British elite; The Who x2 (in Cincinnati the night the kids were trampled), The Stones, and Sabbath (altho Robert Plant CEARLY disagrees with me that Sabbath is elite)... and of course the greats that followed those bands; Van Halen, AC/DC, Aerosmith, et al... but never Led Zeppelin, and that is painful because it will never happen.
Yes, I know that's what you're saying, and I agree with that part. Plans are just that.. plans. What I'm saying, however, is that it would STUN me if Meyer hadn't gone over every detail of Gibson's potential return with the university's administration and made CERTAIN, prior to repeatedly stating that his plan was to bring TG back, that Ohio State University was on board with Gibson returning after serving his academic suspension. If he didn't do that, then it just flies directly in the face of, and seems in direct opposition to, all that a micro managing, control freak of a major college football head coach would do. "My plan is and always has been that Torrence return to the team" was essentially what Meyer kept saying. You're telling me that he continued to say this without clearing Gibson's return with OSU's administration, assuming that Gibson would be allowed to return when the semester suspension was complete, but not making certain of it with a simple phone call? If it was up in the air, and if the "suits" only recently decided to deny Gibson admission to school, why on earth would Meyer publicly continue his, "our plan has always been for TG to return to the team", as opposed to, "We'd love to have TG back, but it's not up to me, it's a university matter, so we're moving forward without Torrence... but if he's readmitted to school he'd be welcome back on the team"? I just think Gibson wants to play quarterback, and that UC agreed to let him live that dream. That Fickell is there, a coach he knows well and with whom he is comfortable, is the difference between UC and the P5 schools you say would gladly let him play quarterback.
Wow, so you saw KISS before they broke huge, because The Beacon, if memory serves, was (still is?) a 3000 seater in NYC. C'mon, KISS hater, that HAD TO BE a great rock concert to see. It just had to be. That band was on the verge of exploding worldwide when you saw them. I saw Queen there (I'm pretty sure it was The Beacon ) while visiting family in Yonkers in the mid 70s. Does that sound accurate??? Maybe not, Queen should have been too big to play a 3k seater 76/77(ish). I've been there, and I would've sworn it was Queen that we saw, but...
Ok, but some guys just don't get where their futures lie, and maybe Gibson is one of them. Eric Crouch, Tim Tebow, Terrelle Pryor... all should have recognized that playing QB was not what was in the best interest of their professional football future, but they all insisted on beating that dead horse, costing two of the three players NFL careers. Gibson, just maybe, insisted that he be given a shot at quarterback if he returned, and clearly the OSU coaches did not see him playing that position for the Buckeyes, especially with ALL the work that has to be done with the guy who's expected to start next year. There are only so many reps, and so much coaching, to go around, and Meyer was not wasting his team's reps or coaches on a guy who wasn't going to play the position. It makes no sense whatsoever, when Urban Meyer is as much of a control freak as he is, that PRIOR to publicly and repeatedly stating that the plan was for Gibson to return to the team, that Meyer wouldn't have made certain that the "academic suits who run the university" were on board with Gibson being readmitted to school. I mean, you can attend school without being a football player, but you can't be a football player without attending school. So, the school part clearly has to come first, and you're implying that Meyer just assumed that Gibson would be cleared by the university instead of actually doing his due diligence and making certain that Gibson was cleared. That's just nonsense, imo.
KISS at MSG!?!? What year?? Had they begun their sad descent into the clown like shells of their former 1976 selves, or were they still KISS. In other words, was it BEFORE 1978... because 77 was the last year (until many years later when they released some solid non makeup music, and then had their subsequent and smashing reunion tour) that KISS mattered. Altho, a chance to see a huge band in MSG, even one that had devolved as much as KISS had, would still have to have been a great experience, I would think.
The St John show???
I didn't see any "fire Smith" posts, specifically, but I did see, and participate in, many, 'Smith's the leader in that room, and that room has been a consistent mess the entire year, so shouldn't Smith shoulder much of the blame' posts... and I think those were fair questions/statements. I don't think anyone on here would debate Smith's recruiting prowess... but his ability to develop his players to their fullest capability is what's being questioned, and after his group's 2016 performance I don't see where that's at all unfair or unwarranted, as long it's respectfully stated and the commenters stay away from blustery, loud FIRE ZACH SMITH kinds of posts.
+1 for Elk and the most accurate comment and GIF ever posted in the TIMH forum pages...