I'm surprised Urban let Kurt Coleman in the WHAC wearing a shirt with "that word" on it…
Sources say Cardale Jones and Trey Johnson haven’t exactly lit the world on fire with their work ethic over the winter.
Jones has never impressed me… never. His attitude, his "we ain't come to play school" insanity, and now his work ethic, or lack thereof, has been called into question. I cannot believe this guy could be the quarterback at Ohio State. Cardale Jones as the face of the Ohio State Buckeyes??? I hope not...
The Big Ten has had a long-standing policy against playing night games in November due to the possibility of cold temperatures. But the league is beginning to soften its stance
Well no screamin eagle $hit… That November games in the B1G have yet to be played in prime time is just inane. The B1G sometimes conducts itself like MLB… full of self importance and a stubborn unwillingness to change. I'm a traditionalist. I'm the guy on here who's always saying "leave the uniform alone". At 50 years of age, I would guess I'm one the older commenters on here, but the B1G's issue with late season night games is beyond my ability to understand. Play Ohio State v TTUN at 8pm on ABC and watch the numbers go through the roof. It is a no brainer for the conference… in my opinion.
Like ScarletNGrey01, I too love the game of tennis. I played organized football and tennis in school, and while football is my first love, tennis is a very close second. I grew up in the 1970's and for those of you too young to remember that decade, or for those who missed it entirely, tennis was ENORMOUSLY popular back then. I vividly remember playing tennis on the outdoor courts at west campus (yes, between Kenny Rd and the east parking lot at the far south end of west campus were tennis courts) and having to wait hours to get your turn. In the evening during the summers there were crowds waiting and watching the matches. It was an electric atmosphere. So much fun. I don't think people who missed that time period can fully understand how popular tennis was. Americans were prominent in the world rankings in the 70's and early 80's with names like Connors, McEnroe, Ashe and Gerulaitis. These guys all had personality, and watching majors in the 70's/80's was like watching a war. American tennis was huge at that time and I cannot believe how far it has fallen in the 40 years since. There was somewhat of a resurgence in the 90's with Agassi, Sampras, Courier and Chang, but tennis in America is a shadow of its once mighty self… sad really.
Thanks for the article and for turning me onto something I should have been following and enjoying for years now.
Ohio State is the ONLY team not Alabama that doesnt play their 5 star players
What is this goofball saying?
'Ohio State is the only team, not Alabama, that doesn't play their 5 stars'
Ohio State is the only team not named Alabama that doesn't play their 5 stars...
Punctuation is your friend. Learn to use it so that Tweet-phobic older guys don't have to stare at your comment trying to decipher your nonsense.
Beau Bishop said today that people he knows and considers to be very reliable sources told him that Harbaugh was "very interested" in the TTUN job, and as a matter of fact was in the preliminary stages of putting a staff together after Rodriguez was fired. What happened? Per Bishop, David Brandon was thought to be far too ambivalent in his pursuit of Harbaugh for coach Harbaugh's liking, so he (Harbaugh) decided to stay on the west coast and accept the 49er job. Bishop said "don't be fooled", Harbaugh badly wanted the TTUN job, and it wouldn't surprise him (Bishop) in the least if Jim Harbaugh is their next head coach. He did caution that *ichigan is in a "tough spot" regarding Hoke, but that unless things change dramatically next season expect Harbaugh's name to surface in connection to that job.
Michael Thomas: I guess I just don't see the 'spectacular' in these videos that everyone else does. They're nice, athletic catches in a pair of shorts at the Woody. Listen, I hope the guy blows up next season and wins the Heisman… but c'mon.
Roby (football players getting paid): Again, instead of so much discussion about football players who already receive everything for free, I'd prefer the discussion be about the other 99% who pay for their education with student loans, or their parents who amass massive "parent loan" debt as middle aged people. I'm not sure what Roby is talking about when he mentions food. Scholarships include meal plans. In addition, there's training table, pre game meals, post game meals, and as evidenced by several articles on here and in the Dispatch, the WHAC is always stocked with protein bars, fruit, healthy snacks and Gatorade, free for the taking. Roby was provided with room, board, tuition, books, tutors, basic health insurance and monthly scholarship checks for the privilege of playing football at Ohio State. These guys need to shut up and realize what they're getting. As always, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN DON'T PLAY… No one is forcing these guys to play and this debate has become comical to me.
I didn't say this in my initial post because, well, this is a free site, so in many ways what I'm about to say will ring hallow… but in the interest of conversation here we go. My distinct impression, before reading any of the replies from staff specific to the format change, was that these changes had to have been made for the benefit of the staff because I just didn't see the benefit to the user. To me, this is backwards. Change, if any is made, should be of at least as much benefit to the user as to the developer. This redesign, seemingly, was done primarily for the staff and with less consideration to the user. Many of the replies I've read from the staff on these threads state how much easier the new format is for you, and how much time it saves you. That's great… but in my opinion the previous version was a better, cleaner and more user friendly product for the end user. When I sold software solutions to hospitals and state governments many years ago, changes made were done in the name of improving the product for the user… not so that the developers had an easier time of it. Now, I was in a for profit business and the "product" was priced anywhere from 250k to several million dollars, so I'm not sure I'm comparing apples to apples here.
At the end of the day, and as I said above, I'm still visiting multiple times a day. I still love and enjoy the site and the community… but the new look is a downgrade from THIS end users perspective. I'll make an Ohio State football uniform analogy: I think the regular uni's worn last season were very sharp… but I also thought the 2013 uni was a downgrade from the last several years. Small changes Nike made, de-emphasizing the black and stressing the white on the pants for e.g., I simply didn't care for. I still think the Buckeyes have a sharp uniform, but it was much better before Nike "fixed" what wasn't broken.
Lead Guitar: Edward Van Halen (VH)
Drums: Neil Peart (Rush)
Bass: Billy Sheehan (Various bands)
Vocals: Brad Delp (Boston)
Bench: Tony Iommi; Lead Guitar, John Bonham; Drums, Michael Anthony; Bass (Primarily for his background vocals), Vocals; Robert Plant
As you can see, I like my music with big hair, soaring vocals and screaming guitars. In other words, I grew up in the 1970's.
I prefer the "old" 11 Warriors… I've given the new site a fair amount of time, but in my opinion it was change for change sake alone. There was no reason for it. That happens a lot now days - change for change sake. There was nothing broken or wrong with the previous site. As a matter of fact, the old platform was clean, user friendly and uncluttered. Just one man's opinion…
It was a teachable moment for Thomas, but at the end of the day, he was beat out by the guys he lambasted.
Vonn Bell, Mike Mitchell, Cam Burrows, Eli Apple, Jalin Marshall, etc were also beaten out by guys who underperformed all year. Tim May was on 1460 today (sitting in for Rothman) and talked a little bit about talented freshman sitting on the bench while upperclassmen played poorly in front of them. He specifically mentioned Vonn Bell and Mike Mitchell. He said, in his opinion, this was due to one of two things: either the player isn't as good as he was thought to be (possibly Mitchell?) or he isn't being coached up (Bell?). Either way it's on the coaches as they've either missed on talent evaluation or they aren't coaching the talent to its potential. May said he believed that the coaches, on defense especially, were coaching scared and simply wanted to get through the season. He cited the Purdue, Illinois, Indiana and TTUN stretch as the worst defensive performance he'd ever seen at Ohio State and was baffled as to why talented young players sat the bench all year when they could have gained valuable playing time in games where the offense simply overwhelmed the opposition. I'm paraphrasing May, but that's essentially what he said. I thought it was interesting coming from someone who's been in and around the program for decades...
Ohio State has one of the best uni's in college football. It's a tradition laden, sharp uni. Leave it alone. I do wish they would accent the black more that's in the uniform now, i.e. thick black stripes on the pants and helmet like they were for most of the previous versions of the current OSU uniform. I don't like the thin black on the pant stripe that reappeared last season (and was on the Bruce era uniform). I like the wide black against the gray like the Hayes era (was similar in the Tressel era). De-emphasize the white and emphasize the black accents. Just my opinion...
In short, Colter implicitly likened Northwestern to a standard "football mill".
Well, if that's the truth, if Northwestern is a "standard football mill", then they are failing miserably.
In addition, your NW scholarship is worth 75k a year. That's 300k over four years. A free life, food, housing, medical care and a world class education in one of the greatest cities in the country, PLUS the once in a lifetime experience of playing major college football… yet you're still bitching that you want more. Go away Kain. I'm far more concerned with all the kids who leave universities six figures in debt and/or their parents who have massive "parent plus loan" debt as 50 year old people already struggling to make ends meet than I am with a guy who was given, FREE OF CHARGE, a four or five year experience that will ultimately be worth far more than the initial 300k cost. If you're being used and abused and it's all so very unfair, well, don't play football. It's really that simple. Anyone can go to college (maybe not Northwestern or Notre Dame) in this country. The less money your parents make means more money available to you in financial aid. I mean, you might have to struggle (like many in college do), and your food, housing, books, tuition, tutors, medical care, clothes, annual vacations, gym memberships and nutritionists won't be free anymore AND you won't get a scholarship check every month, but you won't have to put up with this unfair, oppressive system that's taking advantage of you and your fellow "employees".
So, Illinois is competing with FIU, two Ivy League schools and a MAC school for its quarterback of the future. This is how far Illinois has fallen. In the 80's this was a good football program with competitive coaches who recruited Chicago hard, and was somewhat of a destination school, believe it or not, for gun slinging QB's. In the B1G, Illinois is now a leading example of how not to build an FBS football program (followed closely by Purdue and Rutgers).
I'd much prefer Soldier Field in Chicago to the dome in Indy. It's the B1G, and part of the mystique of the conference is the hard nosed, tough football that's played in cold weather environments. I'm so sick and tired of the SEC and their obsession with the weather. We get it, you're a bunch of pussies who hate the cold and snow and only want to play college football in 78* temps.
Although it was reported by ElevenWarriors.com yesterday that Mitchell wants to transfer to someplace near his family’s home so he can be closer to his ailing father, Ken, it was known during the late fall that Mitchell was not happy in the OSU program.
That's from Tim May's piece in Monday's Dispatch. May is a respected OSU beat writer who's been in and around the program for a few decades. This is, in my opinion, evidence that Mitchell was "unhappy".
Listen, I agree with SOME of the things you say about Fickell. I'm not a Fickell supporter, to the contrary, I'm a Fickell detractor. I would prefer that Ash be given the coordinator title and Fickell be a position coach / recruiter (or gone)… but this stuff about "Vrabel laying hands on Meyer" and somehow connecting that to Fickell is just ridiculous IMO. Have you not seen the Tweets from Shelly Meyer and Jen Vrabel saying, essentially, that that story is entirely untrue? It's so absurd, in my opinion, that it isn't even worthy of discussion.
What is worthy of discussion is Mitchell, why he was unhappy in the program, and what role, IF ANY, Fickell played in this. Maybe Mitchell is leaving for the sole purpose of being near his ailing father… but I find it hard to believe, had Mitchell been happy playing football at Ohio State, that he wouldn't be returning at some point to continue his career here. If we were hearing something like 'Fickell didn't think, after watching Mitchell in practice every day and in linebacker meetings, that Mike would be able to contribute to the defense at this time', I certainly wouldn't have a problem with that in the least. But that isn't what's being reported, and I just don't believe it's as simple as 'Mike loves it here, but his dad is ill so Mike's permanently leaving to be close to home.' I get that he wants/needs to be with his dad (so would I), but that he has (per reports) essentially removed himself in totality from the program while still attending class at OSU leads me to believe that this is about more than a redshirt year and an ailing parent.
Really? I'd bet that as "Defensive Coordinator" Luke Fickell has a significant say so regarding who will and who will not redshirt on his side of the football. Do you think Urban Meyer walks into the defensive meeting room and says 'redshirt Mitchell' after Fickell has made it clear that Mitchell should play? Based on comments Meyer has made since the Orange Bowl, it seems the defensive staff pretty much ran things on their side of the ball without a lot of input from Urban himself. It also seems that Meyer is determined to change that in '14 and be more involved with the defense. I don't know for certain whether or not Fickell decides who redshirts on defense, but I cannot fathom that Meyer doesn't / didn't lean heavily on Fickell's opinion with regard to this, if not letting Fickell make the call entirely.
None of this is to say it's Fickell's fault (or anyone's "fault") that Mike Mitchell is transferring… only that it's hard to believe that Fickell doesn't have tremendous influence (at the least) when deciding who does or doesn't redshirt on his defense.
I certainly don't doubt that Mike Mitchell is leaving Ohio State, at least in part, due to his father's illness. As Mitchell's family business is in no way, shape, form or fashion any of my business I won't ask for details and/or any elaboration specific to this part of the Mitchell story… but I am very curious as to the other half of the equation; the part about Mitchell being "unhappy" in the program, and the fact that he got zero minutes of playing time last season. This is especially baffling when I consider the issues OSU had on defense last year, specifically at linebacker. Why is a 5* recruit sitting on the bench stewing about his lack of playing time when the kids playing in front of him were obviously under preforming (minus Shazier). I mean, how much worse could Mitchell have been?
It seems that there could be a few different questions asked here. Did the staff miss badly in their talent evaluation of Mitchell (seems unlikely)? Did the staff make a huge tactical error in not playing Mitchell on a defense that was obviously struggling and exceedingly thin at the linebacker position? Aside from Mitchell's father's illness, how did things go so wrong so fast? Why wasn't Mitchell given a chance during last season's defensive debacle? Was he performing so poorly in practice and did Fickell have so little confidence in him that he wasn't even considered for playing time on a defense that was as bad as any I've ever seen at Ohio State? I mean, it seems either Mitchell is a capable and promising player who was stupidly overlooked by the defensive staff, or he's a player who didn't live up to his 5* status and the staff realized it early and decided he was a redshirt project… and Mitchell felt deceived because of it. I guess the third option could be that he simply needs to be closer to home and his ailing father and that there is nothing more to it than that… but then there's Tim May (with Jeremy corroborating) saying that Mitchell was "unhappy in the program". I think his dad's illness pushed him over the edge, but I'd like to know what got him to the edge to begin with and how the defensive staff let that happen...
Staff: Are the regional areas in which you ask for assistance the only areas in Ohio of interest? What about central Ohio?
CFT reporting that McDowell will visit Ohio State and FSU...
“I know he is open to taking some unofficials to Florida State and Ohio State,”Greg McDowell told the recruiting website. “We plan on doing some unofficials and see if he and his mom can resolve this. It’s possible she’ll be open to Michigan State as well, so we’ll have to see. …
“We plan on getting down to Florida State as soon as possible, and with Ohio State being a three-hour ride, we’ll drive over and sit down.”
I voted Barrett… but mostly because that's who I would like to see, not necessarily because I believe he'll be the backup. Jones seemingly is the 'next man up' at QB. I hope that changes by August 30, 2014.
Thank you for the honesty, and for giving those of us who frequent Eleven Warriors a look inside the recruitment of a major college football prospect. Very interesting, informative and revealing stuff. Best of luck to you… GoBucks!
It's rare, very rare, that any true freshman starts in major college football. Last years class was ranked higher across all recruiting services than was the class of '14, and only one of those kids (Bosa) started and excelled. Dontre Wilson contributed, but certainly didn't blow anyone away with his season… nor should we have expected him to. Every year there are expectations for these recruits that are unrealistic IMO. McMillan, as good as he is purported to be, was not as highly rated as Curtis Grant coming out of high school. Grant was the number two player in the country, regardless of position, when he was being recruited (per Rivals). That's not to say McMillan can't win the job… but I'd be surprised (pleasantly so) if he does. It's tough for the freshmen. See Mitchell, Apple, Marshall, Bell, et al as examples. Vonn Bell, as good a player as I believe he'll be, was unable to beat out any of the upper class men last season… and that was on a defense that was as bad on the back end as any I've ever seen at Ohio State. If ever Vonn Bell was going to come in and start at some point during his first year, last season would have been it. That's just how hard it is to play (start) as a freshman.