The simple fact that there are so many options to pick from that all are legitimate stars in the making, is a great problem to have. I like most of the picks above, but if I had to say, I like Curtis Samuel (followed closely by a healthy Johnnie Dixon) on offense and Holmes on defense. Watch out for Erick Smith too.
Never switched, per se. Being born in Columbus, but moving to Austin when I was 2, I never lived in a city with Pro Sports (football/basketball/baseball), so I never had 'my team' in those. My parents lived in Cbus for 10 years, and while there my Dad grew fond of Ohio State, which is where that came about for me. Did like the Longhorns too growing up here, but they were always second behind the Buckeyes, especially after finally making it to a game in the Shoe in 1997.
I remember always coming home from school (or at home in the summer) in the early 90s and watching WGN and the Cubs games. Liked them for no other reason that I could watch the games. Liked the Bulls, because of Jordan. Liked the Cowboys, because I lived in Texas (and they were winning Super Bowls). Now I could care less about the Bulls/Cubs, and hate the Cowboys. My wife is a big Mavs and Rangers fan, plus the Rangers AAA team is here in Austin/Round Rock, so I have somewhat grown fond of them. Have a ton of good friends from Louisiana who are die-hard Saints fans, and when I was there for the Sugar Bowl against Arkansas, I got to go to the Saints game two days before (only NFL game I've ever been to), so I kind of root for them. Plus, Drew Brees is from Austin and I watched him play in high school (he was a senior when I was 8th grade). But even with those teams, they're not really 'my teams.'
I agree on Curtis Samuel. He won't get much talk from the national writers, since they will be all over the EZE Heisman hype-train, but by the end of the year, it will be talked about as the two-headed monster backfield (perhaps three, with Mike Weber getting some love).
KJ Hill didn't enroll early, so he won't be turning heads until Fall Camp.
That's exactly what I was going to say. Insert the SEC champion, and then give us one of those three or four you mentioned.
This was posted less than an hour ago and already sold out?
Cool thread seeing the variation of in person game experiences, from zero on up to well over 100. Shows the diversity of the fanbase. I started reading stuff on 11W probably 3 years ago, but didn't join and start commenting until recently. I always thought my love for Ohio State was a unique story, but many on here have some as well.
Born in Columbus, but moved to Austin, TX when I was 2 years old. My parents lived in Columbus for 10 years, but weren't originally from Ohio or had any connections to Ohio State. My oldest half brother enrolled at Ohio State the year we moved here, and my Dad would always tell me about the atmosphere in the Horseshoe from going to games while we lived there. I was a huge college football fan, and the games here in Austin left a lot to be desired before Mack Brown showed up. So my Dad told me all throughout the 90s that he would take me to a game in Columbus to experience it.
So fall 1997, my freshman year of high school, I was able to go to my first game in Columbus and have been die hard ever since. I was a huge fan before, from about the time I really remember and understood sports in late 80s up till then, but that's when it changed. We went again in 1998 to the Penn State game, and then again in 1999 to an Iowa game (we went to games in October to enjoy the fall weather).
Didn't go to another game until my family went up in 2005 to the Texas game. My other brother went to Texas, and my Mom is more of a Texas fan. Great experience, and great game (even though we lost).
A few years later when we played Texas again in the Fiesta Bowl, one of my friends from Austin who went to Texas had an idea for a few of us to take an RV to Arizona and go to the game. I was the token Ohio State fan, and went with three Longhorns. Again, even though we lost, it was a cool game to go to. Tailgated and partied with a bunch of Buckeyes and Longhorns. And yes, of the three games that Ohio State and Texas played, the only one I didn't go to was the one is Austin that we won in 2006. Sad.
I then had a friend who lives in New Orleans, and went to see us beat Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl a few years ago (yes, it happened). Got to spend about 5 days there, went to the Saints game on Sunday (Sugar Bowl was Tuesday), and had an amazing time there.
Finally we get to this season. Up until this season, I had only been to 6 games in my life, as living in Austin made it difficult to get to many. My wife and I got married in the summer of 2013, and before we had kids wanted to have some fun traveling. Fortunately, she is a huge college football fan like me (Longhorn first, Buckeyes second) and we planned on going to the *ichigan game in Columbus (my first). As luck would have it, one of my best friends is an officer in the Navy, and from the spring of 2013 until this past December he was an instructor at the Naval Academy. So we made a trip out of the Navy game to visit him and his wife and kid.
That was supposed to be it, but then the Sugar Bowl happened.. Free flight with points, free place to stay (same friend in Nola), and scored face value tickets through another friend who had connections to the Sugar Bowl committee. I wasn't going to go to the Championship game in Arlington thinking tickets would be well over $500, but I was able to get a ticket for less than $400.
Going into this year, I had only been to 6, but was able to go to 4 games from this magical season and couldn't be happier about it. All tolled, 5 in Columbus (4-1 record), one Neutral/away in Baltimore (won), and 3 bowl games plus the National championship this year (4-0). The Sugar Bowl this year would have to be the most memorable of all, but they all are special since I haven't had the opportunity to make many. Best news: wife would like to make a game every fall if possible in Columbus. She loved it there.
Now it totally makes sense
I would dare to bet that half of the 1500+ comments on all the Weber threads are sarcastic comments, or gifs like Stop Girl, that simply keep them all on the front page of the forum topic list.
Agreed. I actually was reading all the stuff last night about Weber, just a day after reading all the crap about oversigning, and was about to take a break from 11W for a while. Then I read that story about the Texas coach (and the recruits that were "lied" to), and felt the need to say something.
Nothing to see here, go on about your day.
In all seriousness, it was the situation at Texas that I linked. As I said earlier, I did a separate one since I didn't want that to get lost in any of the others. Some of the general feel I got from people who were expressing outrage/anger about the Weber/Drayton situation (in all the other threads/articles), were coming from a 'I would hope our coaching staff is better than that' or 'we are better than this.' Having lived down here for a long time, and having known plenty of Texas fans (including my wife and my brother), I know that they feel the same way about their program and coaches. That's all.
I actually had not commented on any of the stories or posts, and didn't plan on it. But saw the similar situation here in Texas and saw relevancy, so I did. It really shouldn't be a big deal. Same as the oversigning topic. College Football has changed tremendously in the past ten years. It IS big business now, and it's not going to go back the way it was. There has been a lot of talk about paying players, or at least compensating them the 'full cost of attendance,' (which was approved) and letting them get paid for their likeness. Everyone needs to understand that stuff like this is only going to become MORE common in the long run.
Yea, I actually had the whole thing typed, and added that right before I posted. Should have left it out, but I wanted to start a new thread that linked the story from the Texas situation, and not have it get lost in one of the 10 other threads. I guess this topic might get lost in all the forum posts, but oh well. Such is life
I heard on our local radio here in Austin just yesterday, that ever team that has won the National Championship going back to 1998 (beginning of BCS) has had at least 2 top-10 recruiting classes in the previous 4 classes (I don't know the source, otherwise I would have linked - just what was said). Coaching and development certainly matters, but if you have that to go along with the top talent, that's how you win championships.
Going into next year, there are 12 teams that qualify, based on that statistic (# of top-10 classes in 4 previous classes):
Ohio State (4)
Florida State (4)
Texas A&M (2)
There are a handful that just missed it, or average a top-15 class, but I think it's safe to say that would be a pretty good list to get next year's champ from. How about TCU and Baylor averaging 38 and 26 respectively? Or Michigan State at 28? Those are maximizing talent, right there.
I think all that means is the overall depth of the SEC is stronger than most other conferences, but at the top (i.e. likely playoff teams), there is a lot of quality teams and parity. BIG: OSU, MSU, PSU (with Franklin recruiting), and yes, I think TTUN will be back soon. BIG 12: Texas (with Charlie Strong will be back real quick), OU, and to a lesser extent TCU and Baylor. PAC 12: USC, UCLA, and Oregon. ACC: FSU and Clemson.
Those schools have either recruited really well in recent years, or have the name brand and tradition, combined with a recent coaching change to get there quickly.
I like the fact that you brought this up. It's been entertaining and thought provoking to read the back and forth, and I've agreed with both sides at times. However, I respect and trust Birm on a lot of things that are said on here, and I also trust Urban Meyer to not be a bad guy behind closed doors. He's been around too long, and if he was a bad guy and doing the shady things you are insinuating he is doing, then he would have been outed a long time ago for that.
Birm posted this in his 'pre-nap' forum post:
Finally, as for the questions of "how will we get to 85" and all that jazz, it's something I don't comment on because it's not my business to. Ohio State, when a student-athlete signs a letter of intent, honors four-year scholarships, so how they get to 85 for game day is up to them and the players on the team. I'm told "the numbers will work out, they always do" and that's all.
It really isn't our business to comment on, since it's up to the coaches, administrators, and players on the team to get to 85. Questioning how it works out (just like questioning how the SEC schools work it out) is pure speculation unless you/we have some actual players coming out (like in the articles linked above from Alabama) and saying they were basically forced out. Even then, they are still going to honor the four-year scholarships, which is really all we can ask, from a 'morality' stance on 'oversigning.'
Seriously. Good stuff, Birm.
He must read The Hurry Up, because he is saying exactly what Birm is..
I'll take $50 on each QB. Whoever is the starter has a better chance of winning than Zeke, for the simple fact that QBs win more often than RBs, and I think that Samuel gets more carries next year during the season than most think. Plus I like those odds better for my money!
If it didn't come from Birm, it isn't true
One of my good friends is an LSU fan (so big SEC guy), and back in July we were drinking and discussing/arguing college football and the upcoming season (because that's what we do). The topic of two SEC teams came into our conversation, and I bet him $100 that it wouldn't happen. Thought the playoff would provide the perfect set up to make it very hard for that to happen. Basically there would have to be 2-loss champions from 2 of the 4 other Power 5 conferences, combined with a 1-loss SEC non-champion. Didn't see that happening, and don't see that happening most years. In fact, that's why it will be hard for any conference to ever get two teams in.