While the NCAA obviously is at fault for alot and so alot of the criticism is warranted, the tweet from the Twitter employee himself is an indictment of the use of Twitter by any large entities. It illustrates that no large entity (corporate, government, etc) can currently use Twitter to engage with interested parties without a massive backlash of criticism, haters, and those trying to get people to retweet their tweet that burns the entity.
Hopefully the federal civil rights investigation determines whether it was handled appropriately or not. Clearly the University will be disclosing all documents and info to the federal investigators so it will be a fuller picture as the CSG report never got any info from the university due to privacy reasons.
That said, I would have to think that the federal investigators wont be interested in whether Hoke said Gibbons couldnt travel to bowl game due to a "family matter". I have to think the federal investigators will be solely focused on how the university handled the investigation, their policies in place, the introduction of the revised policies, and whether they followed those policies. The Feds would be very interested in any comments from Hoke to university investigators of Gibbons...but I dont think the Feds will care about comments to the media (and that is the false statement that CSG refers to).
Well, Im sure this will get overblown by Twitter in the next couple hours. Im sure fans will be more up in arms than the coaches as comments are really just made in good fun because of the setting it was in. Hoke got a lot of negative feedback in a similar setting last year with the "chickened out" comment about Notre Dame.
In Warinner's defense, it's key to focus on the fact that this was made at a fund raising event and not talking to the media. I think the real intention of the remarks at a setting like that is to get a few laughs and energize the fans for the upcoming season. Without a question, there are no ill intentions with him saying this but Im sure most Michigan fans (as would be the case with most schools) will go overboard with this. I think alot would argue that maybe mentioning Brady by name is a bit extreme as it gives the comments a personal slant as opposed to just general ribbing of the opposing fan base.
Forget about the Spartan ad...I think you have to do more explaining about that prolia ad. I looked it up and its for post-menopausal osteoporosis. What is your excuse for that one showing up on your page?
His crystal ball is a good one...It is a sure sign that he hasnt leaked anything and seems to be wide open...OSU analysts have him going to OSU, UM analysts have him going to UM, Oklahoma analyst picking Oklahoma, and ND analysts all picking ND.
Once we see the analysts start to pick other schools than their own is when we will start to have some real info.
Yeah..i find this one along with Clark's commitment to be bizarre. Perhaps coaches are trying to get soft commitments early telling recruits they are OK if they visit elsewhere after committing so they might as well do it now. Clark already has visits schedule to Nd, OSU, and UM but it still is good from UNC's perspective as 1) it creates buzz about the program getting big time recruits and 2) ties the recruit to the school so that school will have an insider's track with the recruit as the "incumbent" school so will make their chance better in long run than if the recruit waited and the school was just one of many. I guess the test is how many of these guys who pull trigger early without visiting their top schools end up making visits to other schools.
In addition to his brother, his dad also played football at Kentucky so have to think they will be a factor especially if UK's recent recruiting success translates to improvement on the field.
I think most Michigan people have similar assessment as Birm. OSU, ND, Iowa, Mich, Oklahoma seem to be the top group but I havent heard any Michigan analysts say anything more facorable other than Michigan looks to be in top group. I think most M fans are pleased with where they stand because he has visited Ann Arbor 6 times in last nine months but nothing is based on any concrete statements. He has never made any statements about who is leading. With regards to Michigan, the strongest statement he has made is that they will be likely to get one of his visits. I definitely dont get the impression that Michigan fans think he is sure to come there...yes, there are fans at every school that think they will get every recruit but I wouldnt use that to extraploate that "scum" fans are saying they will get Hilliard.
Agreed about the international students...but that is much smaller number than out of state students. Performance on the field probably had an effect on the student attendance late in the year...but the declining attendance seems to be an issue at many places in the country as there has been alot in the press about it this offseason. The issue seems to be the gameday experience just isnt that great for many people (bad food, long bathroom lines, no wifi/cellular reception, sitting for hour before the game) when compared to other viewing options.
Students seem to be pretty happy with this overall. The biggest thing was that the students actually had a voice in it this time as the decision was a joint agreement between student government and athletic department. Last year's decision was made by the athletic department with students having no say. Lets just say that the seniors weren't too happy as they soent their first 3 years with the tickets being seniority based and then their last year it was switched to first come, first serve. This system based on prior year attendance (and bonus if you were there 30 mins before gametime) and after that priority based on class is a good enough compromise for all.
Obviously its a poor showing regardless....but I think part of the crowd issue for the OSU game is the change in date to Thanksgiving weekend as most students arent on campus. The amount of out of state and international students at UM is now 39.4% of undergrads (49% when you include graduate students) so its difficult for alot of these students to come back for the game. 3 of the top 4 other states represented in the undergrad population are California, New York, and New Jersey so this isnt just a matter of driving in for the game from a nearby state.
Bingo...you nailed it. Its a publicity stunt that worked. No one would have heard of this otherwise and now Michigan boards are talking about it, OSU boards are talking about it.
Tony Gerdeman from the Ozone retweeted the below tweet earlier today...well stated i believe as Im sure a bunch of losers on twitter will sit and laugh at the low scores as they are leaked.
@BrendanLeister: The only reason most of you want the wonderlic score info is so you can make fun of a bunch of 22 year olds. Says more about you than them.
Here is the actual letter that OCR sent to the U of M so you can see that it does specify the investigation is as a result of a report of an assault made by a female student. The interesting thing in the letter is it asks for all sorts of data and policies only from 2011-2012 academic year on. The Gibbons incident occurred in 2009 so the focus appears to be mainly on the time after the Dept of Education mandated that universities apply Title IX in a certain way to sexual assault cases. This makes it look like the focus will be on how the university implemented policies after this mandate and how they were applied to these cases. It seems that the investigation does not look to consider the period of 2009-2011 before the mandate since it doesnt even ask for UM to provide the policies in place at that time. It will likely still involve the Gibbons case but focusing on how it was handled from 2011 on.
The investigation by the AA Police Department is completely separate from U of M's handling of it. The AA police department is concerned with any criminal issues while U of M is related to student discipline issues and ensuring a safe environment on campus. The Title IX investigation announced today is looking at how U of M handled it and their policies. For those that are interested, The Michigan Daily (the student newspaper that broke the news of the expulsion) published a pretty exhaustive piece today on the UM policy and how it has changed over the last few years ( http://www.michigandaily.com/article/4-years-3-policies-2-standards-1-respondent ).
Well, if its any comfort...OSU fans on twitter still have alot of catching up to do to look anywhere near as stupid in front of Harris given all the moron Michigan fans that tweeted at him when Harris decommitted in January.
When healthy, I think MSU has the potential to be that elite team. During their rough stretch recently, they have played much of that time missing two of Payne, Dawson, and Appling. When all of those are back, they are a much different team than wha they have been playing with recently.
Agree on this...I have posted the same in other topics. As far as Im concerned, this is the only negative issue I have with the new 11w. Everything else is great.
Regarding the recruiting forum link you embedded, I think the issue some have is the default sorting methodology is based on the number of posts a thread has. It makes much more sense to have the default sorting based on the time of last reply (most recent at the top). This was how the old site had it and quickly allowed you to see what is active. The new site still allows this but you have to twice hit the last reply link to first sort based on it and then reverse the sorting direction.
One different factor was that Jake Ryan had already redshirted earlier in his career so he was likely going to lose the year regardless. Jake Butt hasnt redshirted yet so its more of an option if it doesnt look like he will be back until late in the year.
The Cass Tech thing is interesting as there really hasnt been much production out of the recent players from there. Funny thing is Michigan has done a better job the last couple years of developing the Glenville players that OSU didnt want than developing Cass Tech players. From Glenville, Frank Clark has developed into a good defensive end and Wille Henry was a starter at defensive tackle for Michigan by the end of his redshirt freshman year last year.
Remy..If you click on FORUM at the top bar, then you select one of the boxes for the Forum Categories (like OHIO STATE RECRUITING). Once you get into that screen, there are 3 columns (Topic, Replies, Last Reply). You can click on any of the three headings to sort by that attribute and if you click again on it, it will sort in reverse order. The default seems to be Replies (from most to least # of replies). In the old version, the default was Last Reply (most recent to oldest). I dont think the new method makes sense because if you have some topic that generates 200 replies, then it will be forever at the top of the default list even when the topic becomes old and stale.
Comments are much more user friendly now with that yellow highlight showing new posts. That was the number one thing I was missing from the old version. The other thing I noticed (and assume likely others have pointed out) is the default sorting for forum items is by number of posts (most posts at the top). The old version sorted by thread with most recent posts at the top so the "current" items would be at the top instead of what might be an old item that is no longer commented on but has alot of posts. I see there is a way to change the sorting but I would think most would want the default like the old version of 11w rather than having to resort every time when viewing the forums. Thanks again for the quick changes as version 1.01 is a great improvement already.
Did Conley actually play in the Florida A&M game? The article seems skeptical of it and I cant recall hearing that before. Sometimes the participation chart can have mistakes in blowouts as it gets confusing with so many backups getting alot of playing time especially when there are often two players with the same number.
This isnt my logic...Im not defending anything as I am hoping to find out the actual timeline myself. Im just pointing out this as one of the key questions that people are hoping to have answered.