You got it quit arguing who has the better loss, the more important metric is common opponent. In this case we both have a common opponent in Virginia Tech. Both were played at Virginia Tech. Ohio State one big Virginia Tech took North Carolina and overtime. This metric is much more important then quality of loss
In regards to North Carolina schedule, the American or is it time for football conference in the ACC coastal division. The American was probably tougher this year and the entire Acc
Stanford gets in over us with a win and Clemson loss. Pac 12 schedule it too legit and they get in over us.
We need Stanford to lose too to get in. Our best shot is a USC win and either bama or Clemson loss. Do not see a gator win so best we can hope for is Clemson loss and the committee punishing unc for the crap schedule
The best hope we have is Florida winning the sec in some fluke way. I think if unc wins they jump us. They do not deserve it but they still do because 1) they will be conference champs, and they have a 13th datapoint. If say we were in the big ccg next week and lost a close game to Iowa while unc won a close game against Clemson, then I think we would pass unc but in the current environment 12-1> 11-1
This game means much more than getting in the playoff. If you have read Urbans new book, this is a perfect example of coming together over adversity and overcoming it as a team. It is easy to say the right things when you are always winning, but how you bounce back after you hit the mat is just as important.
This was a great example of this
I agree, it is too early to place the blame squarely on Beck.
First - We all forgot 2012, Yes we were undefeated but we had a lousy pass offense that year and relied heavily on the run, especially Braxton. It was the first year the staff was together and it takes time for the coaches to gel. You have to remember there are 2 new offensive coaches this year and cohesiveness has been an issue. IF things are the same next year, then yes, Beck needs to go.
ALso, when Beck was at Nebraska, the offense his first year was no where near as effective as it was the last year he was there.
Finally, remember the D back in 2013, when everyone wanted Fickell's head on a platter. They figured it out. Let's let Beck have an opportunity too.
Both 95 and 96 were equally painful losses.
95 because the team was so loaded with George and Hoying and Glenn they deserved it
96 because 14-9 being the result of a slip is still a bad taste in my mouth
I don't see inch getting in because of their schedule with two fbs teams. Winnin your conference is great but your schedule is worse than Baylor. I still see Clemson taking a spot even with a ccg loss because they have 13 data points. 12-1>11-1
Best we can hope for is bama losing in iron bowl, ole miss winning sec. No sec team gets in and no pax team gets in if Stanford loses pac championship. Then we have Sparty Clemson and big 12 champ. The last spot would go to either a one loss osu, 2 loss bama at 10-2, 3 loss Stanford or Baylor if they do not win big 12.
i like our chances there because no 3 loss team will trump a one loss osu, baylor does not have the schedule and is not the same without Russell at qb. Bama is a two loss team that did not win their conference and the sec is not as vaulted as they have been in the past
The big difference between the Big 12 this year and last year is that the committee prefers conference champions. Last year the decision was Ohio State BIG champs vs Baylor or TCU Big 12 champs. This year Ohio State, non BIG champ vs Big 12 Champ with one loss. Secondly, being BIG champs, Ohio State had a 13th Data point. By not being a champ, they will not have that 13th data point. It makes the argument closer, and preference is to champs which is why OK State or OU would have an edge.
It was the last time I was at the game in person.
we were sitting in the end zone when that happened. When santonio scored on the prior drive we knew they were going to win it. You could see Troy come alive that drive and nothing was going to stop him. when gonzo caught that ball it was the most amazing catch I saw live. What a great game
If MSU wins out, the only path to the playoffs I see would be pure chaos.
ND would need to lose to Stanford and Stanford would need to lose in Pac Championship.
OU loses Bedlam and Baylor wins Big 12. Baylor's weak SOS would hurt them and you have 2 similarly comparable one loss teams, so it is a judgement call there.
I would then say either Clemson loses to UNC as a one loss OSU would trump one loss UNC. The question is whether one loss Clemson trumps OSU? I do not think so IF Notre Dame loses to Stanford and would drop below Michigan.
Add the element of Bama losing and then Ole Miss winning the Soo Easy Conference West - Then win SEC championship. THen who gets in? One loss Sparty is a lock, One loss Baylor as Big 12 champ. Then you have to decide who gets last 2 spots, it wont be a 3 loss PAC team, it wont be 2 loss Notre Dame. IMO it would be between 1 loss Clem, 1 Loss OSU, 2 Loss Bama, none who won their conference championship. I would say you have to put Clem in because they have highest winning % 12-1 v 11-1 or 11-2. Then do you take 2 BIG teams or 1 SEC team who did not win their division? You almost have to take the Bucks if only because they won it last year and all things being equal, shouldn't they get a chance to defend (if all things being equal it can be the last tie breaker)
2006 was by far the best. The thing about 2006 was that is was the year I feel we exorcised our demons and was no longer intimated by TTUN no matter how they were ranked. In prior years we were ranked significantly higher or lower and either were expected to win or pull off a major upset. 2006 all the pressure was on Ohio State and they showed up and won.
2001 and 2002 were the next on the list. 2001 because Tressell called his shot, and I was there in AA to see it. We even painted the rock on Washentaw in AA with a big block O and it was still that way the next day as people walked to the game. Plus for once, we ruined TTUN's chances at getting a tie in the Big Ten after so many times they ruined our chances
2002 was great because of the National Championship
2005 is also up there too because of Troy and Gonzo's catch.
Sad to say, I don't have any good memories of games in the 80s and 90s. I was at the game in 98 but that was a bit of a letdown after dropping the game to an unheralded Sparty a few weeks prior and missing out on the Rose Bowl.
Baylor does not get a free pass. People crack on their OOC schedule every week. The ESPN guys defend OSU's schedule by comparing it to Baylor saying at least OSU scheduled a P5 team that was historically good when they were scheduled.
9 conference games should help in the future. I wish we would schedule an Okalhoma type school every year and then a Tennessee or North Carolina in the same season. That way it would be super tough if both are doing well but the odds both suck and are in a down period are remote. 1 MAC team a season is plenty.
FWIW, Ohio State would never travel to Houston to play Rice. So I guess you can give props to Baylor for scheduling that one. Rice football used to be a dominant school. Back in the day they went head to head with Univ of Chicago in football battles. So again props to Baylor.
If we are going to lose I hoped it would be to sparty.
1) it would hurt scum chances to win the division
2) they could not ruin our title hopes next week if we lost up there
3) I would die if scum were in the playoffs
4) I at least respect Sparty and like Dino for everything he did with the Bucks
Maybe it was something to the photo with Clinton yesterday. I am not sure if there could be some NCAA issue given his influential status.
I am not yet writing them off. I believe there is going to be mass chaos in the last two weeks. I hope we are not part of it. However I think inch will beat Clemson in the acc championship, I see no undefeated big 12 team and our losing bedlam. I can see Bama losing the iron bowl, but winning the sec still. I think there will be two obvious teams in and the last two will be a giant cluster like in 2007
I pity them, the ACC is hard to watch.
I want Bama and I want them in the first round for 3 reasons. 1) I want the Soo Easy Conference to be shut out of the championship game for the 2nd year in a row. 2) I don't trust other teams to do our dirty work and 3) I want to own Bama when we are done so Bama fan cant consider 2014 a fluke.
Beat Memphis and Navy and it takes care of itself
Just for clarification. The AAC is p5 and the acc is a weak b!tch? At least it looks like that from the rankings
TNT - Can I get a Who Dey shoutout
He is going to pull out a pass against scUM, just watch
This is still an investigation, I thought everything had come out and no one cared because UNC sucks.
Cincinatti Bengals = Ohio's NFL team.