I do not have a problem with schools charging a token amount for tickets (say $10 a game per student) but yes, have a lottery, offer them first come first serve. Camp out in front of the ticket office like they do at Penn State. There are a number of ways to accomplish this. It will build loyalty, camaraderie and in the long run generate more money in donations from alumni than it does overcharging students for the tickets now. I am not old enough but I would wager that OSU had free student tickets in the 60's and 70's maybe even in the 80's for a bit. I could be wrong though
Don't hate because students get free tickets. With the cost of college, students should get free admission to the game with their Student ID. It is a shame that UM gouges their students with ever increasing ticket prices. OSU is trending this way too. Isn't it enough to charge $30,000 a year to attend the school? Plus that free ticket may engender a much higher level of support down the line from alums. In reality more schools should be doing this for their students.
I have to admit I am not a Blue Jacket fan, and do not cheer for them. I have nothing against them but I grew up before there was such a team so I had to adopt the Red Wings and Penguins as my teams due to proximity. When I go to games, I try and catch those teams because that is who I grew up rooting for. The Jackets have done nothing to inspire me so in their 14 year tenure so it is hard to embrace them even though I have always lived in Ohio. I hope that can change someday but right now my allegiance lies with the Penguins and Wings.
now lets get Cincinnati a team and all will be well with the world
She suffered the Sports Illustrated Cover Curse
Both. We are ohio state. why settle for less
I would break this into 2 components. First there are the teams I want to see the Bucks play period anytime and anywhere and the second component are teams that I would pay to watch in the Shoe but not necessarily a top tier opponent.
in the first category I list: Alabama, Texas, LSU and Florida - These programs are often the top as far as passion of the fans and the excitement surrounding a matchup between the fan bases and media. I would watch these games wherever and a neutral site is fine with me.
In the Second Category I place - West Virginia, Kentucky, Arizona, Boise, Cincinnati, K-State, Virginia, GA Techs of the world. They are nice programs who typically never rise above the mid-tier but put a quality product on the field. These are teams that typically will not beat OSU, but can play them competitive so it can make a compelling game. They also can compete against good competition and help the SOS. I would not play these teams on a home and home ever, They need to come to Columbus, but I would rather watch these teams over MAC schools any day
Pathetic. Oregon State and UNLV are a step down from UNC. A minor step but a step none the less. It needs to be mandated that you play one non P5 school and the rest of them must be P5 schools. This is pathetic. I am sick of seeing non-con schedules of 3 MAC schools and a 1AA school (ok that is TSUN schedule) but even 2 MAC schools and a mid level ACC school is not that exciting either.
The athletic department is listening. They cancelled the Home and Home series with UNC because of the travel costs it would place on the fans. Instead, they are replacing UNC on the schedule with home games against UNC Charlotte and UNC Asheville. This way, OSU fans can enjoy watching their team at home while still being able to play against a team from Carolina. It will be the best of both worlds and with 2 other Carolina teams coming to Columbus, it will almost be as if UNC was there. (Another consolation, UNC Charlotte will probably be better in football than UNC by that point with the way UNC's program is going)
I really don't have much of a stake into how the situation plays out but after watching the interviews, I thought Savannah Guthrie treated him very poorly and is nothing but a hack reporter and should go back to the courtroom. She should be ashamed at her interview. The GMA interview was much more respectful
To add to your point, ALL SEC schools are in small college towns where you get that groupthink and the hate will feed off each other. Even the one's who have NFL teams in the state are not near the college town. In the BIG, you have Chicago, Minneapolis, Ann Arbor which is essentially a Detroit suburb, Maryland and Rutgers, which all have NFL teams. In the SEC, Nashville and Baton Rouge are all hours away from the nearest SEC school (save Vanderbilt but they draw like Indiana) Florida is 3 hours from Tampa, Athens is 90 minutes from Atlanta. These schools are islands which is why you see the level of hate you have in the SEC. ---- Using Vandy as an example. Pro football town, stadium the size of Indiana, and they rarely even fill it. Why, because they are nto the only game in town in Nashville, and there is a diverse population that is into other things besides college football. Plus Vandy alums tend to be a little more cultured.
Bring back the Grass!!!!!!
Growing up in Cincinnati, I always attributed UK football to the same level as Akron Football. Competing for the same type of players and really a disinterested fan base. As I grew, I learn they more fit the profile of Cincinnati football. A basketball school that plays football and has bandwagon fans in a good year, but I say that Cincinnati has better football fans on the whole. I had the opportunity to go to a couple UK games a few years ago though, and UK football is more like a bunch of tailgaters who meet for the game but never actually make it in the stadium. I remember watching Florida come to town to play and the stands are half empty. Yes, UK stunk but Florida still had Chris Rainey and a high powered offense. I went to a few additional games as well and the fan base really could not care. It was just something to do, and the game was less important than the tailgate.
but the neutral site game has to be held at a venue willing to hold it. Jerry World holds games because it seeks them out. So does FedEx field and the Meadowlands. When Indy and soldier field start seeking out more big paycheck games like that they will be held there.
Why not - What is the key in NCAA scheduling. Wins and Quality Losses. You can lose in basketball as long as you lose to the right teams. A loss to Cincinnati, Xavier and Dayton are good losses because all those teams have a high RPI. It is the difference between a 11-12 loss team getting in to the NCAA tourney and a 6 loss team getting in. Also, it will create exciting basketball for recruits and fans alike, and much better than watching OSU against Gardner Webb or Wofford.
In an ideal world home and home is the preferable way. But if it means playing 4 MAC teams at home or playing a group of quality, interesting teams on a neutral site, I would choose the neutral site. Unfortunately, it is the new reality. As a paying fan who does not live in Columbus, I will not drive for a game I feel is not a compelling matchup. Tickets are expensive enough, why waste my money on the likes of BGSU and Florida A&M. I know the BIG slate is not too compelling either, but I would rather sit and watch Indiana any day over a MAC team.
But have no fear, Fireworks are in store for 2014
Home game against Miami of Ohio or some other MAC School OR a neutral site game against LSU, Bama, Auburn, Clemson, FSU, Tex, etc. I would take the neutral site game any day. While it is a 2 hour drive for me to go to Columbus, I would drive or fly to a neutral site game against a premier opponent than go to the shoe to see the Bucks dominate a pathetic school from the MAC. If I am going to travel I want to see a decent opponent.
One of the best games I saw in the Shoe was the 2003 game against NC State. I would not call them a powerhouse but they were a decent opponent from a P5 conference. It was worth paying for that game. Va Tech this year will be the same. I will even say Cincinnati is a decent ticket to go to. Other than that, the rest of the non-conference schedule is not worth the money or my time. I would not go to those games even if people game me their tickets (well maybe Navy).
Point being, and this is what Michigan so sadly misses. They schedule cupcakes that the fan base has no interest in seeing and wonder why no one shows up. While the TV money has gone up considerably, the product on the field is being diluted considerably. My wife went to Notre Dame in the mid 1990's and looking through her old yearbooks, the ND football team played only BCS caliber teams plus the service academies. Now they play MAC schools and low level ACC schools as part of their schedule. This is a national trend and needs to stop for the good of the game.
I could care less about the tradition. I think Brandon should do what it takes to fill the place but Fireworks?? c'mon. As I mentioned earlier, if the real problem they have at Michigan is the lack of student ticket sales, how will fireworks change this. The students pretty much live in the area and can see the firework show from their front porch. They can be a free rider here. It just seems that Brandon is throwing darts and while he has identified the problem, he is clueless in how to fix it. For the price they are spending on fireworks, maybe they should lower student ticket prices or offer a contest to students to win a semester of free tuition if they are present at the game. I am not saying I have the answers but these are still better than fireworks.
Just a silly observation here. If the problem with Michigan games is that the students are staying home, how will fireworks help? The students all live within walking distance from the stadium, you would have to figure that after watching "scUM" on their 60' in flat screens (or more likely playing video games) they can then walk out their front door sit on their porch and watch the firework show from there.
The best thing about Columbus is that it is only 90 minutes away from Cincinnati, the greatest city in America!!!
His reasoning for keeping UC out of the BIG 12 is pretty poor. First, his point about the Stadium and facilities is not true. UC is in the midst of a major upgrade, and they also have the ability to leverage resources in the city such as Paul Brown Stadium where needed. 5/3 is not a great facility but they are planning upgrades (there are luxury boxes on both sides of the court contrary to his assertion. The endzone area is the UCATS club). His point about OSU does not hold water either. OSU is and will always be the Alpha dog in Ohio no matter what conference UC is in. OSU could care less if UC is in the American or the Big 12 or ACC or whatever. Penn State is the Alpha Dog in Penn and Pitt will always be second fiddle even though they are in the ACC. Same with Kentucky and Louisville. In today's realignment world, TV eyeballs and recruiting are what matters and Cincinnati provides them for the BIG 12, more than most other schools do except possibly UCF. His point about UCF is legit but that is about it. If the BIG 12 were to expand, Cincy and UCF make the most sense because they get them into 2 large markets that are closer to West Virginia, both are great recruiting markets. The big knock on UCF is that it does not have the endowment or academics that UC has which is a knock on them but they have a lot of potential. USF is UCF but without as much potential.
You live in Ohio, you write for an Ohio State Blog, one would think that If you are writing about one of the major cities in your home state, you would have a stock photo that was a little more recent. From the looks of that photo, it is from the early 90's. C'mon you can do better than that
I have been to 3 OSU/MICH games at the BIg house (as my only experience there) and 2 games in Columbus with my last game in 2005. Even in those "good times" for Mich there was always a sense the students would rather be doing other things and not interested as much in the game. This was not the case at Ohio State. The biggest thing I noticed was the ticket prices. We would always buy from a scalper before the game. In Columbus, we were lucky if we would get a ticket for less than 2 times face value 30 minutes before kickoff. At Michigan, we never paid above face value for a ticket and often purchased student tickets. This was during the time when Michigan went to 3 Rose Bowls and won the Orange Bowl. You would figure the students would be living it up, but there was such lack of passion on the fan base.
I also think the excuse about the game being after Thanksgiving is not a legitimate one. The game has been played after Thanksgiving for a long time. In 2001, we sat in the Michigan student section and there were a ton of students who made the trip back from Thanksgiving for "the game". In the 1980's and early 90s "the game" was always played the Saturday after Thanksgiving, and students still came.
The real and primary reason why students at Michigan and even Ohio State stay home is all about ticket prices. It costs more to go to college today than the average person makes in an entire year. College kids do not make a lot of money anyway, when you start charging your students so much for tickets that they have to decide between going to a game against Western Michigan or paying rent, no wonder why they do not go to the games. School pride and tradition are nice, but eating and paying rent are a bit more of a priority. Brandon has to remember who his audience is..............Remember the time when students actually got into the game for free, or when a student ticket was not much more than a beer or 2 at the bar?
You would think with the SEC mandate to play power teams it would eliminate the ACC from the list. Outside of FSU and sometimes Clemson, ACC team routinely lose to FCS teams. Bringing the likes of Jax St, BGSU, or Viriginia to the Swamp is almost the same thing with the exception that BGSU and Jax St. may pull the occasional upset whereas with Virginia or some other ACC patsy, the SEC fans are bound to go home happy.