1986 - I was 7 years old, I remember watching OSU games on Sunday morning tape delay on the local PBS station. I remember watching them because the Bengals were always bad, OSU always was winning. I remember watching Jim Karsotoes, Chris Carter, Vince WOrkman, and Speilman. I always remembered Buckeye domination against everyone that year (except maybe Wisconsin). It was my earliest experience watching the "Game" on TV. And I remember the Cotton Bowl with the ugly red shoes and how they beat A&M handily that day.
It is only natural - You have 8 evaluation weeks to impress the committee. You better be playing on all those weeks. If you miss an opportunity to showcase yourself, you only put yourself at a detriment. In the new world EXPOSURE is key. If you take a bye week during this time, it better be at the beginning, If you take one the last 2 weeks of the year, you do so at your peril. It is only natural.
... And yes, I know the committee watches the games early in the year, but there is much more emphasis on the later games when they are actively ranking them. You do not want a bye during that time.
Also, think of it like basketball. Wins later in the season count more than wins in September. The goal is to find the best 4 teams over the course of a season with an emphasis on who plays the best now. Look at the NCAA tourney, teams with similar records are seeded very differently based on when they win. The teams who are hotter at the end of the season get a better push than teams who are coasting into the tourney (see Syracuse last year as an example)
Beating Oklahoma in September & Oct does not look as good now that we see their body of work. Beating Minnesota in September does not look as good as beating them in November. This is where I think the committee gets it right and the polls get it wrong. The top teams in Sept look a lot different in November when you account for injuries and experience playing together over the whole season.
Kerry Combs should not be in a suit.. He needs to be in short sleeves in the snow doing what Kerry Combs does best.
I for one have always felt MD was a solid addition. Rutgers I was never impressed by. MD has the chance to become the Oregon of the East which will only give OSU more quality wins in the future.
If I were on the committee - 1) Ohio State 2) Bama 3) FSU 4) Oregon.
OSU and Oregon are 1&4 so they can meet in the Rose Bowl. Bama and FSU can go to the SUgar. OSU will beat Oregon and then play Bama for the title setting up Meyer v Saban, and then all the world will be perfect
Vonn Bell is definitely living up to the hype so far
I want FSU too. ,,,,,,, I want them to lose so we can end this BS that they deserve to be in the playoff. ........... I want them to be exposed for the penal colony that they are. ............... I don't want to see Fisher's aw Shucks grin anymore as his players commit another felony and get away with it.
So yes, I want FSU too.
This is Urban Meyers fault and he should be immediately fired. I mean, that has to be the only explanation of why fine young men in the FSU program seem to be getting into trouble the way they are. - If someone has a better explanation, please let me know.
didn't they already announce the game at noon on ABC. There is nothing to worry about here
I think there is a big difference. The Ohio State should be undefeated if Braxton does not apply because the result of the game matters. Yes, we would have beaten VT with him in the lineup but you play the game with the hand you are dealt and in this case your team did not have Braxton. This is akin to saying that OSU would be undefeated if they had Ginn, Braxton, Nugent, Hawk, Katz, etc. None of these guys had a tangible impact on the result so to argue about them is pointless.
It is different with Winston, because you can make an argument that he had a tangible result on the outcome of the game. In the one game he did not play, there was a big impact on the quality of FSU's offense. THis is pretty clear. Now, there is nothing to show that if you take him out, FSU would have losses, but his true impact on the team can be measured and therefore, you could argue, they are no longer an elite team this year without him.
But FSU is hamstrung by the Feds and title IX on this one. Often times they are requiring schools to come down hard on students for these issues even when there is no criminal case to prosecute. I would not be so sure he will get off with a slap on the wrist. I reference the Dez Wells case from Xavier a few years back where the prosecutor told the school there was not a shred of evidence to indict but the school would not let him back in because of the Feds.
Gibbons at Michigan had the same result.
I would not be so sure Winston gets off easy here.
I probably should have clarified #1 better. While he would not have been ineligible by the NCAA rulebook, and FSU would not need to vacate the wins, in the eyes of the public and pollsters and committee, it would be evident that if there was a quicker resolution to this matter, he would not be able to play in many of the games throughout the season to which he had a direct impact in the result of the game. If Winston were a backup QB with some occasional play, then I feel it should not affect FSU's consideration with the committee, but because he is the face of the team, it makes a big impact.
THat was my point in #1
Lets hope he rehabilitated himself and learned his lesson. He was a juvenile when this happened. He did his time. It would be better if he can become a productive member of society, so we should let him have that chance. He could also be someone who can advance the cause if people give him the chance.
Scrolling through this thread this morning was absolutely hilarious.
If it were on campus it would have been a better draw. Plus, Thursday night, 20 degrees outside, and a marginal draw like ECU will do that.
Bama may win, but it will be a tough game. I have not been impressed with Bama this season. What have they done against the same level of competition as MSU? against head to head teams, MSU has won more convincingly.
If only they had grass too. However, I will take outdoors any day. I bet they are greatful for the Vikings playing there this year since they had to install a heating system under the turf.
I see Miami beating FSU before Ole Miss beats Miss State. Ole Miss lost Treadwell the other week who is an important part of the offense. Now, they still have a vaunted D but I would rather see Miss St win and be undefeated and hope for chaos elsewhere. Why risk having 2 SEC teams in the playoff.
Do not stay at the Crowne Plaza unless you want to be woken up multiple times in the night with the room shaking from the train passing next to the hotel.
The only way to settle things is an 8 team playoff
3:30 was a great time too. I prefer noon or 3:30 not so high on 8PM
I don't know the rules in College, but in the NFL the home team gets to decide whether to use the equipment. If they want to use it, then the visitors are allowed to have it. If they do not use it on themselves, then the visitors do not get it. I think that is a reasonable rule. Not sure what the rules in college are though.
I don't see Louisville or Miami sniffing the top 25 again this season. Neither are there now. Besides FSU. the Duke, GA and Clemson are in the 20-25 range. For as bad as the BIG is, they at least have better parity than that. If you talk about parity in the ACC, you talk about the race to the bottom.