Don't worry, I am sure they will have a road loss or two against a MAC team or WAC team.
So the weakest P5 league schedules non-con games against each other to bolster their SOS. I think there are some MAC teams that are stronger competition then a non con games between two ACC clowns
Still glad they have the crystal football. Wish they had it at the nat championship. It is the best of all the trophies
I do think when miller gets healthy enough they do some type of platoon to get him on the field and that will be a really tough dynamic to defend againdt
the posters on the Mgoblog have their panties in a tizzy over this.
It's hudy in cincy. Natty light is for Oxford
As someone from Cincy who has lived in Cbus and Cleveland and Toledo, the big difference between Cincy fans and other Ohio schools is that Cincy fans feel their team is an equal to Ohio State. They may not win, but they feel they deserve the same respect. Whereas, other Ohio Schools, they are fans of their schools but they also are big OSU fans too. They go to the OSU/BG game in an OSU jersey and BG orange T underneath, they go to the OSU Miami game wearing a REdHawk shirt but Ohio State Hat. They want their team to be competitive and even maybe win, but they are fine just watching them play Ohio State in the shoe, and happy for an Ohio State win.
Cincy fans are not like this, they want UC to win, they do not split allegiances They may respect OSU but they do not wear OSU hat and UC shirts. It is not a little brother relationship whereas many Ohio State fans like to think that (which leads to why UC people feel OSU fans can be arrogant) Cincy fans feel the program has made significant strides (which they have) and deserve to be at least on the same conversation as a big time program (or recognized as a step above the MAC schools) akin of lower level BIG teams like IU/Purdue/IL/Rutgers/MD/etc. - Cincy fans do not feel they are as good as Ohio State but feel they should be given the same respect Ohio State would give a school like West Virginia, or Texas Tech.
At least this is how I interpret it.
It was in 2002. It was the closest game that team played. Bearcats were pretty close to pulling the upset on that game. Fortunately they did not.
No UC was there because Ohio State backed out of the return visit to Paul Brown and bought out of the contract.
I do feel that other than playing Cincinnati at Paul Brown and maybe a renovated Nippert, it does not make sense to take the show to a MAC stadium. First, both schools will make more money if it were in the Shoe, second, those schools would need to offer a gate inducement to Ohio State to play down there which they cannot afford to do. Outside of Cincinnati, I just cant see this happening.
So what this says is that TCU, the real team with a gripe for getting left out was not even seriously considered as it came down to Ohio State and Baylor. the Same Baylor that lost the Cotton Bowl. Briles needs to take a hard look at the scoreboard and shut up.
I agree completely, you need to have an ESPN presence. Fox is still an afterthought for me. I have to go out of my way to find fox on my TV at home but ESPN and NBC, CBS and ABC are more in my present thought than Fox when I watch college football. Besides the BIG Championship game, and Gus, the rest of the Fox announcers who do Big 12 games are lousy. Fox needs to step its game up to really be taken seriously for college football coverage. - Also, ESPN has the built in advantage with their wal to wall college football coverage. When the game is over on Fox, you switch to ESPN to watch SportCenter or college football roundup, etc.
Miami football is never going to be what it was. They had their run, but at the end of the day they are a nice private school in Florida without the resources to compete against the top programs in the money game anymore. in the 80s and 90s they could dominate because of the talent down there, but they did not have the facilities, now they are on the losing end of the arms race and their program will be relegated to a mid level ACC program like PITT whose glory days are behind them. The recruiting game has changed and the Miami's like Notre Dames of the world just cant compete like they used to.
VERY MUCH NEW HEIGHTS. Woody and Paul Brown was a different era. It had been over 30 years since the last undisputed NC. Tress got them there and played for it 2 more times.Prior to that, they had only won the undisputed share of the BIG only about 2 times in 25 years. SO YES NEW HEIGHTS. Prior to Tress, OSU was a good program whose best years were behind it. We were akin to UCLA, Notre Dame, Penn State, Nebraska. These were very good programs with a storied past and played compeitiive football but were not capable of getting over the hump into the national discussion anymore. With Tress, Ohio State was always in the National Discussion.
The 2007 game almost seemed like a mirror image to the Oregon game. There Ohio state was the team with the hiesman qb and more talented skill positions and stud RB. They had the talented lb core like oregon and were favored by 6. They were the higher ranked team and even chose to wear their road whites. Listening to Oregon fans it is eerily similar to how we felt in 2007. I think that is why people seem to reference that game, that and the common denominator of the winning coach.
the Lsu game was just an afterthough. We were not supposed to win and really did not belong in that game, it was just a lucky break to get is there and they were whatever thought they would be
I would not trade urban for tress and I would never trade tress for urban. Tress was a dignified man who was exactly what osu needed after Cooper. He brought the program to new heights, and made it the envy of many. Even in a down Big ten ohio state still resonates around the nation because of tressel. Without him we would have been like a Miami, Nebraska and the Uclas of the world. A big name whose time had past. Tress elevated the program and kept it relevant. Urban has now taken it to the next level.
He was successful at mich state. In his last year they won a share of the big 10. He just did not want to play second fiddle in the state to Michigan. He did not go to LSU because they were a better league. In regards to program at the time Mich State was trending upward more than LSU. However, LSU threw much more money at him than Sparty ever would and he was able to be the big fish in the state instead of playing second fiddle to scUM
Getting people to come from out of state is always a challenge. The State of Cincinnati is tough to crack.
I think no matter what decision he made he couldn't lose. If he comes back to school, he can compete to start next year. I do not think he beats out both Braxton and JT but he could certainly beat JT if it is only a 2 way battle. If he wanted to be mentored in the pros for a few years and collect a paycheck, he certainly would be at no fault in doing so, he deserves it.
Whether he rides the bench in college or the pros it will not really affect his draft stock much so I don't think there is a downside to coming back. His small body of work and huge NFL body guarantee him to be picked up by some team, just not as a starting prospect which is OK.
Would love to see the Huskers become dominant again in the West and have to go through them to get to the playoff every year. Heck, I would not mind if they get in a few years to balance out the power. Even though the West is weaker, a strong Nebraska only enhances the power of the BIG. Imagine that gauntlet in a few years. The BIG East and a dominant Nebraska in the title game plus having Wisconsin and a strong Minnesota or Iowa as crossover games in the West.
Couldn't have said it better myself. This was too eeirily similar to the 2007 game only that we were on the winning end this time. I kept thinking the exact same thing when I thought about the Oregon fans over the last few days.
Trev is now all BIG since his Huskers are now part of the BIG
I would not say the BIG West looked great, the majority of teams there give the BIG its weak perception. Wisky Stepped up and played and represented well. Nebraska played well and almost pulled off the upset against USC on the road. Minnesota is stepping up and making strides. Iowa needs a change badly if they want to compete though and Illinois had no reason to be in a bowl game period. Northwestern should be better than who they are. I don't fault Purdue but they need to improve.
Ultimately, Wisky and Nebraska were the only teams that looked respectable in bowl season so the West has a long way to go.
Urban Tress and Woody. Time to carve their faces into the side of Mt. Logan.
I agree with this. I was talking to a friend of mine and we remember watching the 2002 game and it was MAGICAL. SI on the 10th anniversary called it the greatest game played, and it lived up to that hype with the players on both teams who were involved. When they were in the NFL it was like a fraternity, if you went to Ohio State or Miami, if you played in that game you were respected. There was something about being 14 point dogs in that game and how it was such a dogfight the entire time. Ohio State was looking for respect, Miami was looking for a dynasty. Nobody could compete with that Miami team talent wise except for a few overlooked guys from Columbus. It was tight the entire game and then some. When it went to OT, both teams continued to slug it out and you can say that no team left anything on the field. That night was very special. Especially for Ohio State because it after being down or on the cusp for about 30 years, we broke through. It was such a joyous occasion.
Fast forward to this season. It has been an awesome ride, but it was not the feel of 2002. Maybe because I am no longer 23 and have a difference perspective now, but last night was not as magical as 2002. Heck I was even more excited about the Bama victory than last night. The Natty was great but I think Vanquishing Bama, meant a ton for the program because it was getting the SEC off our backs. We knew we were as good or better than them but the public narrative was what it was because we failed in so many other bowl opportunities. I think Bama was better because it went to the final play. The Bama game was the ice cream sundae which the Oregon game was the cherry on top. It was a great way to cap the season but from an emotional standpoint, was not as emotionally draining as the 2002 or Bama games. Of course this is the difference between a blowout and battle.
I will always cherish this team, and love the win but, the game itself while a great Buckeye moment was not the Classic that the Bama game and especially the 2002 game was.