I heard that Michigan is going to throw in the towel and fold their football program and take the money in supporting something they are really good at, douchebaggery.
Only thing that makes it palatable is that it happened eons ago by college football standards When OSU was a completely different team. I believe the media and everyone knows that if played today OSU would give them a beatdown. Normally, I want them to salvage their season for SOS purposes but in this case it may be better for a complete train wreck because ti will be easier to discount the outlier. Especially an early outlier.
This is also a lot less painful than Purdue, MSU in 98, or even Illinois in 2007 because it happened early. I think this is more akin to Wisconsin losing to Cincinnati in 1999 yet coming back to win the Rose Bowl that year, or Northwestern losing to Miami of Ohio in 1995 but winning the BIG and going to the Rose Bowl that year.
How on earth did we lose to these guys?
Send them to the SEC now. With that type of stellar reputation for academics, they belong in the the I cant read league.
While he grew up in the Cininnati area, I would hardly consider him an Ohio State homer. He keeps things pretty even keeled but since he is not an alum, I think he may like OSU but overall is pretty indifferent towards them. I would call Herbie an OSU homer but he keeps it closeted given his position with ESecPN, but you can still tell he is a fan.
Love the photo of the Rock above. It brings back so many great memories. Back in 2001 we painted the rock with a big scarlet and gray Block O for Tress's first year. The game was over Thanksgiving that year so few students were around. Much to our surprise, when we came back to go to the game at 11AM the Rock was still decked in our OSU paint job. I still keep a photo of this at my desk and has made for some great stories.
To ESPN's defense, they probably have a lot more money in the SEC network than Fox had in the BTN because BTN was first and unproven and did not have a monetized value yet. Fox did not need to plug it as much because it was profitable at a lower revenue than the SEC Network would be. Heck, look at the announcers at each. BTN does not have the big stars, SEC Network gets Musberger.
www.keepwillmuschamp.com - because he is good for college football.
I said it once, I will say it again, I LOVE LOVE LOVE WILL MUSCHAMP. Keep up the good job
I know there is a fire Muschamp board out there. I think someone should start a save Muschamp board.
Funny, the whole premise of the article surrounded Baker spurning OSU to go to the hATORS.
I am sorry but I simply dont buy into the demographic argument about the BIG that the national media puts out. Yes, the talent level in the area is dropped but this is the time of national recruiting and 24/7 media cycle. Regions don't exist anymore like they used to and players will play for the program best able to get them to the pros. The Iowas and Minnesotas of the world will always suffer, but so will the Iowa States and Kansas States and Texas Techs.
Geography does not matter to the Ohio States, Texas, scUM's, Bamas and Oregon's of the world. It all comes down to coaching and recruiting the top talent, no matter where they are.
My Favorite non OSU coach is Will Muschamp because he has turned Florida into a train wreck
Here is an account of the conversation:
Jamies: Coach, big win, after the game I am going to have everyone over my house for crab legs to celebrate the win. Do you want me to get you some too?
Fisher: Calm down, don't do anything or say anything else stupid until after you are in the pros. Even then, don't talk about your time at FSU because we don't want to have to forfeit these games until I am long gone.
Jamies: Uh Coach, does this mean you are in for crab legs.
Shows the difference between a stand up program like UGA and a bottom of the barrel program like the Criminoles. UGA suspends Gurley until it can investigate the allegations because they are serious enough. FSU plays Winston and essentially dares the world to find the proof. Eventually, they know the proof will come out but it is better to forfeit the games a few years later when nobody cares, and the program makes millions of dollars in a national championship run. As much as I hate the SEC, I would cheer for any SEC team to beat FSU this year because that is such a scumbag program.
But, if the proof comes later only because FSU buried its head in the sand until they couldn't anymore, then they should be punished for using the ineligible player. OSU had to forfeit a season for the Tat 5 actions. FSU will likely need to forfeit this season after the fact too but that is no real punishment when in reality they should have never been playing with Winston to begin with, they knew it deep down but choose to ignore it until too late.
Contrast FSU with Georgia. Georgia suspends Gurley (their best player) when there is substantial evidence and then does the investigation, FSU does nothing to Winston until they absolutely have to because the risk to their national championship hopes.
I tend to think we need ND to win this weekend. It is more likely that they will drop a game to USC or another team they should beat than FSU would. Would prefer FSU loses. Although, in this what if scenario, assume FSU goes undefeated and right before the ACC championship game, Winston is suspended because of his (autograph violation, rape allegation, more stupidity, all off the above). Even if FSU wins the ACC championship and is undefeated do they still go to the Natl Championship game, because after all, they would have essentially been using an ineligible player for most of the year. You would think they would need to forfeit those games. Would the NCAA have the balls to enforce that punishment?
This is true, Per ESecPN, if there is a 3 way tie a top the BIG 12, since the BIG 12 will not have a championship game, unless the 3 BIG 12 teams are all in the top 4, it will be impossible to accurately choose between the 3 champions and therefore none will get in the playoff. The BIG 12 would then have to officially forfeit their playoff spot to the next most deserving SEC team if that SEC team is ranked in the top 25 at some point during the season. Otherwise, it may go to the next most deserving team of any other conference.
I do feel OSU will not be punished as harsh as the voters would because of such an early loss. But using NCAA tourney logic, RPI and which loss is worse will obviously hurt OSU. I have not given up hope yet but with the performance that VA Tech has turned in so far (as well as Cincinnati) it does not help matters for getting in the playoff. Maybe if Bama loses to a DII team or something.
Rule of thumb, do not lose to an ACC school ever. There is no forgiveness to that. Worst conference ever.
I cant remember many dominant performances at Ohio Stadium at Night. Night games have not been overly kind to the Bucks at home. Yes there have been Nebraska and Wisconsin recently, but there have also been Texas, USC, Penn State, Va Tech on the other end. Call me superstitious, call me old fashion, but I do not like night games. Plus with night games, it makes it harder to go out and
riot celebrate after the big victory as easy.
I think Little Ceasers is struggling too since they got rid of Pizza Pizza.
I find it funny that the Board of Regent member who comments about this is Denise Illich. It would be one pizza man fired by the rival pizza chick in the area.
Let there be an edict that not another bad word be spoken about the great Senator that was named Tressel on this board. May he have his special place as one of the greatest coaches in Ohio State history who ever graced the sidelines. I love Urban but will always miss Tress.
I want ND to run the table and go undefeated and get in playoff. Chaos reins in the other conferences such that OSU gets in with one loss and crushes ND in the playoff or even better the NC game.
In reality, Miami has never drawn well since they moved to Sun Life. Sun Life is not in Miami, and really outside of Coral Gables and Miami Proper no one really follows the Canes
On the whole the UK fans have been pretty respectful on his decision. They know that it is hard to pull an Ohio kid away from OSU when OSU calls.
I still think it is going to be too hard of a pull to get him away from UK. Unfortunately, RB is not the position it once was, and OSU has a stockpile of riches in that area so either way, OSU will be fine. UK needs him more. With Harris it is the pull of playing for the home school vs the chance to go 3 hours away and compete for National Championships. I still think for him, the chance to be "the man" in your home town will win out.