I'm not optimistic, but its not impossible. MSU isn't great. We just played our worst game one 50 yrs against them. And still had to lose on a last sec fg
Even early in the 2nd half we were not making any contact on their runs until they were 3-4 yds down field. That's not acceptable, especially because everyone knew they were running.
I won't torch you for it, you are spot on. The only time this offense under Urban has been really elite against good competition was when they were forced to throw down field to set up their runs. Otherwise, its been an exercise in trying to out talent people and wait for the big play to break out.
Speaking of getting torched, I will add that I am underwhelmed by Urban's game day coaching. He seems to be a master motivator for sure. And he gets some great players and, more often than not, he puts together a pre game plan to utilize them well. However, what I've not seen at OSU (didn't watch enough at his other schools) is that his in game adjuments (of lack thereof) are seriously wanting.
17 points against that personnel on that day is TOO many.
You're right. The only way we need chaos is if Sparty wins.
Ok, I know they aren't great, but come on, they are like 7-4. Not exactly Purdue or Rutgers bad but remember, those two nearly beat MSU.
I'm with you on this one. Something just not right about this team this year. Even those very close to the program don't know quite what it is. They just haven't gelled from top to bottom.
Let's be honest, this particular version of Ohio St, though supremely talented, has simply not been a great team. It just goes to show that a great team is MORE than the sum of its parts... Kind of like last year.
I think if we beat TUN, and a sparty loss allows us a chance to beat Iowa, we would be in the top 4 no matter what else happens above us.
Unfortunately, all this rests on an INEPT PSU offense.
That end of game management was atrocious. Credit to Dalton and the offense for getting down there, but they needed to play the clock better, and that throw to the end zone on third and three made no sense.
We're rooting for the same teams/people. Looking like an epic lost weekend.
I'd still rate the 98 loss to MSU as slightly worse than this because this team gave hints it was ready to fall. 98 never did. The 06-7 loss to Florida and the 96 loss to TTUN are pretty high up there as well.
I'm not a fan of booing, but I don't think the people were booing the team so much as showing their displeasure with the play calling the only way they can.
Much like I didn't like Zeke's airing his displeasure the way he did, though I understand it, I understand those booing the play calls, even though I don't like that mode of expression.
Well said. One of the problems I have with this loss is exactly that it SHOULD NOT have happened. The loss in the BIG championship game in 2013 was something I could kind of handle because I believe that MSU team was truly good enough to legitimately beat us, there is no way this particular version of OSU should have lost to this Sparty team.
This is right up there with the worst loss I've ever seen as an OSU fan.
They've looked like they were just trying to "preserve" most of this season, to be honest. The team just never seemed to get on an attack mode all year. Even the tempo of the play was so much slower, nothing down hill. The play calling, though bad, was made worse by everything happening so slow.
The bulk of this loss rests on the offense, no doubt, but the defense was really not great. Back up QB and predictable game plan, and we were still giving up 5 yds per play, particularly hard to accept how they drove right down our throats the two times we scored and the last possession.
We didn't dial up any run blitzes to stop their momentum. We had to get stops after our TDs and were simply unable to do so.
The fault lines have been there for weeks. This implosion was inevitable. This is why I get so irritated with people who say fans who are critical during wins are "spoiled" simply for bringing up legit concerns that one can see being an issue against good competition.
This was brewing for weeks.
All the guys announcing they are turning pro, the lack of fire and energy all year long, this is clearly not a team that has a passion for the game or for each other.
2015 was special. This team never had that feel. I would be shocked if they pull it together to get a win next week.
aaaannndd..... it all starts to unravel.
The locker room and team unity that made last year so special is clearly gone. This has been a team that had an "L" destined for it for a long time.
The coaches have not mixed in nearly enough young and hungry talent with the older guys during the year, IMO.
Though I can't blame them for going, I think way too many or our guys have been looking to their time in the pros this whole year. The level of passion and the apparent lack of preparation have been evident ever since the end of the VaTech game.
I still say, with Cardale leaving, Tyvus already having graduated, I think he tries his trade at the next level.
I also think D Lee is gone.
I've tried changing my loyalties for 16 years, can't seem to do it. Losing a game isn't the problem. It's how they lost, at home scoring 6 points and bungling all along the way and then letting the back up QB go down for the game winner. It's not THAT they lost, which was expected at some point, but HOW they lost.
Honestly, same old crap from this team. I wish I could stop rooting for the Bengals.
I thought Tyvis was a senior, even if he's not, if Cardale goes, he goes.
Also think Apple is gone, big fast corners are to valuable in the NFL
My thoughts exactly. He has really impressed me this season. Just hope he takes a break this weekend.