But you did start the debate, it wasn't random chance that prompted your comments on the coaches tweet. I'm sorry for you that you think life is just all random chance and luck with some hard work and "keep your chin up despite the meaninglessness" to get you through, but don't bash on other people's belief that trials and struggles have a greater purpose, especially not in this setting.
From a pure football perspective, this is a huge loss.
One of the two big question marks going into this season ( the other was d-line) was the WR position. Many have underestimated the magnitude of losing Spencer and Smith. Noah appeared primed to fill a significant part of that vacuum.
With the other guys suspended, and our d-line further weakened, the VaTech game has become far more treacherous, and the WR position may be a lingering problem deep into the season.
Full recovery "expected", that is a key word. Depending on how bad the fracture is, there may be other damage. The kid from Louisville, Ware I think, never quite got back to full strength. Time will tell. Many prayers to him and the team.
Adversity can make you stronger, or it can break your will, I think I know how this team will respond.
There will be an avalanche of stories and non-stories ALL season which 'could' serve as distractions and negative motivators. The utmost attention to details and focus on the right priorities will be needed to overcome it every day of every week.
I trust Urban understands more than any of us and on a much deeper level.
That's the truth, he's already has some limits put on him this camp due to minor injuries. Will always be a concern with him, thankfully we have depth.
Thus is essentially why repeating is so difficult. No one here or on the team should take it for granted.
I'm with you on this. Really means nothing. I suppose it's an honor of sorts, but this team already knows what is expected of it.
Now, what irks me is a loaded MSU team being ranked lower that the Baylor team they beat in the cotton bowl.
As a former walk on myself (@ a much smaller college) I have to give major props to Mr Drake, that's tough stuff. Nice job young man, keep grinding.
Definitely piled on, other OSU alums in media could report, and still do, honestly without being soi divisive.
Go read Ramzy's articles linked in this thread and you'll understand. His radio show in the 90s was even well before all that stuff and you could already hear his arrogant attitude coming through.
I think you have really encapsulated the essence of the problems most objective fans have with him.
I also think he has, on several occasions, been way too harsh on the OSU fan base. Now, sure, there are some nut jobs, but even back in the 90s when he was just getting started with ESPN, but still did a local radio show, he was frequently very arrogant and condescending, in an unconstructive manner. My wife, who isn't even football fan, would pick up on it and ask me questions like, why does he hate OSU fans so much?
It really reached a head in the mid to late 2000s when he was nationally brutalizing the BiG, and more specifically OSU, as not being able to compete with the SEC. It's one thing to do analysis, but to openly say that if his son was an offensive recruit he'd never have him go to OSU, was over the top.
You've nailed a big part of his issue with this comment, I believe.
I think you are WAY under valuing their talent level. Sure they aren't at our level or even MSU, but they hung in with us in each of Hokes games against Urban.
I'm not saying they will come in with one loss or anything, but it is a silly thing to try to completely write them off.
You may need to clarify what exactly you are disagreeing with me about, because much of what you have stated in your post refers to things I didn't say. Where did I say anything about sacrificing the long term performance or repair inadequately?
I spent nearly 3 years of my fellowship studying this issue, and the fact is, there is no evidence that repair of meniscus or ACL tears actually improves the long term outcome, in terms of late development of arthritis. Whether repaired or not, there is a very high likelihood of developing arthritis in an injured knee 10-15 years after the injury. There seems to be a metabolic change in the cartilage and meniscus after injury that is more than simple structural change from the injury.
So, the purpose behind repairing an ACL or cleaning up/repairing a meniscus for an athlete has to do with returning them to aggressive physical function, it doesn't say anything about the long term outcome for the knee.
Data is not widely available, but surprisingly, whether you repair a torn meniscus or ACL seems to have little impact on prevention of long term damage. The key issue short term for athletes is return to function and stability. Long term the risk of secondary damage is high no matter what is done.
This stinks. Was really expecting him to be Zeke's back up.
You speak truth.
I go to no other site for OSU info, and rarely check any other sports site.
Probably after they repeat this season. I think assistant coach turnover is something we've got to get used to, much as I hate to see it. Particularly with Warriner, if love to see him as an OSU life-er.
I'm glad we got rid of FCS games. The OOC schedule still isn't brutal, but if we're complacent WMU could be a battle. That program is moving up right now.
Obviously, it was a team effort that resulted in his improvement, but he should get lots of the credit. He ran with great balance, patience and vision. He never seemed to miss a hole or the right cut back. And, he ran with an attitude.
I do believe it will be hard to overcome the loss of Spencer and Smith on the edges, I think the loss of the two WRs will be bigger than most believe and I think we will have some growing pains again, particularly early on, as that gets sorted out. Anyone thinking we just pick up on Sept 7th like we finished in Jan has another thing coming, I think.
Me too. Was such a gigantic play in the flow of that game.
There is something to be said for respecting your sources and the families involved in this process.
Maybe he was just trying to get people to be looking for a story, that wasn't able to be broken in the time frame expected. Some people seem to just seem to like to have something to complain about.
If we're shooting for the moon, maybe just go with 10 straight!
Seriously though, with the level of competition being what it is, and the unpredictable things that can happen in any game or season, I'd be thrilled with any repeat or multiple championships in the next decade. For someone who was there in 2002 when we broke a 34 year drought, I was ecstatic to see last years NC come so soon!
I'm starting at 1998