If we're going since 1980, hard to keep Herb Williams off of the list...
You can go ahead and count Pace. Sabol didn't really make it as a player, but as a contributor. Also, I believe it is based on college greatness, so Carter, Parker, and Willis are the ones who really stood best chance of being top 10. Warfield was criminally underutilized by Woody at OSU. A four year decoy...
I'll give the rest of the top 25 a shot - 11. Jack Tatum, 12. John Hicks, 13. Jim Parker, 14. Mike Doss, 15. Jim Stillwagon, 16. Randy Gradishar, 17. Cris Carter, 18. Shawn Springs, 19. Keith Byars, 20. Rex Kern, 21. Antione Winfield, 22. Tom Cousineau, 23. James Laurinaitis, 24. Mike Vrabel, 25. Art Schlister.
Wow, could get to 50 pretty easily, just off the top of my head. It's great to be a Buckeye and have so many greats from which to choose.
As far as Brax is concerned, he's one heck of a playmaker, and a great football player, so he might rate higher as a player, but relatively low as a QB, if that makes since. For example, Hoying was a better Quarterback, but Brax is a better player...Either way, it has been a pleasure watching him. Which leads to the point of how little respect Pryor really gets. He would have smashed almost every significant OSU passing record had he not been a ringleader in Tatgate.
OLineman usually never get enough credit, compared to skill positions. I have a love of respect for "old school guys" and think that this list emphasizes skill positions and Heisman winners a bit too much. Nice to see Pace up there, but how no OSU DBs, Parker, and Hicks didn't crack the top 10 is crazy!
Good call, forgot Tatum. Even continuing the list 11-20 would be difficult...
Pace is, quite honestly, taking into account his dominance in college AND pro football, possibly the best OSU has ever produced. It would be between him and Carter. Pace is, IMO, without a doubt the great OLinemen in the history of CFB.
Stillwagon is the most obvious snub. However, they obviously insisted on every Heisman winner being included.
Everyone always forgets how great Antione Winfield and Mike Doss were....
OSU is one of those schools where a top 10 just does not do justice b/c you leave of Tatum, Jim Parker, Bill Willis, Doss, Pepper Johnson, Cousineau, Hicks, Byers, Cris Carter, Mangold, Stringer, Stillwagon, Germaine, Warfield, Galloway, Laurinaitis, heck, even Nugent! Let us all be so thankful that OSU has had so many wonderfully talented players! There's a reason that eSECpn ranked OSU has the #3 greatest first program of all time...consistent talent and success!
The People. The Tradition. The Excellence. O-H-!
I can't say as though I blame him. If colleges wanted me, when I was in H.S., as bad as they want him, I'd revel in the sunlight too.
I still wouldn't mind OSU offering C.J. Sanders at some point. I'd love to see another legacy, and speedster, come to OSU. I'd hate to see him go to and SEC school and tear it up.
On a side note, apparently many MBA practices in Nashville are fun b/c Herbie and Sanders sling the ball around...throwback to 1992 Bucks!
Sadly, for this first time since I can remember, I am almost looking forward to the season being over. I am holding out hope that they can shock us all and get to the Sweet 16. However, a loss to MSU and an early exit from the B1G Tourney remain distinct, and unfortunately a fall to anywhere from a 7-11 seed seems likely. This has been such a disappointment.
I think Hilliard is ND all the way. I do not remember the last time OSU got a kid from St. X that ND wanted. So, losing him will not be a shock. It is not a great year in state, particularly in terms of the positions where OSU has true needs. I am thinking this class will look a lot more like, gasp, a John Cooper class, with most of the high profile talent coming from out of state. If OSU lands Gibson/Wimbush, they may be willing to pursue more elite talent. It is way too early to be stoked or disappointed. If OSU is similarly situated in 8-10 months, then there may be a problem. However, as of today, I am just looking forward to OSU taking part in the first ever College Football Playoff.
Too bad OSU didn't have "SEC Speed" isn't it?
I would love to see Hyde here in Tennessee...
I am just hoping he doesn't end up in Cleveland, where careers go to die.
In this draft, the QBs do not overwhelm me. From what I have seen, the two best NFL QB prospects are still in school - Hundley and Winston. If I was picking #1, I'd go with Clowney, no doubt.
Clowney could dominate if he just remembers to play Stanford football.
I'll respectfully disagree. Eddie still remains the best RB that OSU has had since at least Byers, who was also a phenomenal combination of speed and power. Also, both of those two were better blockers and pass catchers than Hyde. I think Hyde was very, very good. However, I think that when healthy, Beanie was a superior RB.
I wish Hyde all the success in the world, and hope that he's an even better pro that Eddie. If he his, he's probably a HOFer, since Eddie was borderline. What Hyde does have going for him is that he never gets too upright. I love his vision and his refusal to be tackled easily. Here's hoping that he falls to the Bengals, who could really use him in combination with Bernard...
So freaking typical of this team...
Still thinking Sweet 16 is a possibility, but probably the ceiling. Any word on Mickey Mitchell? :)
It reminds us all that there are so many things in life, including life itself, which are much more important than sports. From a personal perspective I hope everything works out for their family and they are at peace no matter the outcome.
From a ridiculous fan perspective, I as disappointed. I really thought the core of Johnson, McMillan, Mitchell, and Booker would remind everyone of the heyday of OSU LBs. That being said, could OSU have any worse luck when it comes to LB?
Good luck Mike! I know that you will be a success wherever you go, as you have the tools to make an impact on the football field. However, it is your off the field life for which I know that I will pray ardently, hoping all ends well and you still end up in the place which you are intended to be. Don't worry about football for the time being, worry about family.
So by that rationale, Oden wasn't very good either...and Jared Sullinger wasn't nearly as good as Treg Lee and Terrance Dials right?
Conley, and it's not that close really. Conley had better footwork, speed and quickness. Part of defense, IMO, is also the ability to lead the break after a turnover, and Conley was vastly superior to Craft in that respect. Craft is more physical, but that's b/c with Conley's quickness, he didn't need to be.
I agree. It is always wonderful to have kids become part of the team who are quite literally living out their boyhood dream.
I think the point of this article, and I could be wrong, is that the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the SEC is much more appealing to 17 and 18 year old kids who know nothing of anyone outside of the SEC and FSU winning national championships, and unfortunately this is true.
I know this is an unpopular view, but the facts are what they are. The population is shifting south, and the SEC is winning. They have a network, ESPN, that markets for them, and right now it is much much more desirable to play in the SEC than it is the BigTen, ACC, or Big 12.
This is not a problem for OSU, scUM, PSU, or maybe even MSU, but it is indeed a poblem for schools like Minnesota, Indiana, Illinois, and the like, which needed Ohio recruits to remains relevant, or at least competitive. This fad may only last as long as Stoops is at UK, before moving on to a better job. However, the fact of the matter remains that Kentucky had one of the SEC's worst recruiting classes, which still landed them in the top 25. The BigTen had 3 top 25 recruiting classes.
If the rest of the conference wants respect, it starts on the recruiting trail. PERIOD.
One would have to consider that Berger, with his injury, may be the most likely candidate to Redshirt.
I think it would be foolish to RS Booker or McMillan. They are too damn good and athletic to not make the 2 deep at LB, let alone waste a year redshirting. Even with Grant and Perry, I can't imagine Meyer and Fickell wanting to have too many "green" LBs in the 2 deep next year.
I know this is a big time guess, but if pressed, I'd say the two deep this fall will look something like this - ILB -Grant, McMillan, WLB - Booker, Johnson, SLB - Mitchell, Perry, with Williams, Johnson, and Hubbard getting into the rotation, and Berger redshirting. Just a guess but I'd say this is how it opens, with McMillan eventually taking over for Grant to start by the end of the season, and the two OLB constantly rotating.
Then again, I have not seen any of them practice, so who knows? We've got to fill the void between now and August somehow right?
Don't forget Collier, he certainly has the frame and athleticism for Meyer's system. Additionally, I am a BIG believer in Barrett, and OSU has a really good shot at landing at least one of Gibson, Wimbush, and Nunez.
It also cannot be understated - Meyer's scheme made Tim Tebow look like Steve Young. Don't ever forget that.