I would call out Herbie to his face in a second. "why did you vote us lower after we won sugar bowl? oh because you were in a pissing contest with TP and he hurt your feelings about never beating Michigan, cool!"
The 2011 Sugar Bowl team was elite!
Rumor Alert..... Heard that a S&C coach was Herbie's inside guy at OSU, Tress found out and fired him. Tress was a control freak, but it was his program.
Also, Herbie said he wouldnt want his kids to play for Tressel in 2004 because offense was so bland.
Stop defending Herbie, he is a clown, a media hack, and never beat _ichigan.
there are more injuries from running than playing football, so keep your kids to the elliptical. Or maybe just play video games, thats really safe.
Seriously, there are risks in living life and playing sports. You can't win if you don't play.
How dumb is Clark? I was an idiot in college too, but you can't hit women, for any reason.
Good job by Hoke. The consensus seems to be that he's a good guy, in over his head, and not helped by Brandon's meddling. Hopefully he can get a HC or DC job somewhere decent.
Poor guy, hang in there fella!
Dontre and Jalin being on the field together is what makes them both effective. Opposing D's need to account for both of them. No need to beat on him today.
People should be sending racist hate messages to Hoke, he's the problem.
Love it! It really is an issue. If you look back at the season so far, the two big examples of SECESPN BS are South Carolina and Tex AM. USC gets smoked as a top 10 team at home and now AM is top 5. Remember the whole Jonny Who thing? AM loses to Miss St, so MSU gets the benefit of beating a top5 team. Meanwhile AM just got crushed 59-0 by bama. If there was objectivity, USC and AM would never have been ranked so high.
ESPN totally props up the SEC. The good news is that they are a few yrs late anyway, the 25/yr scollie limit for SEC teams has already lowered their talent levels. Look at bama, worst Bama team in 5yrs. Same for LSU, UF, etc. I'm looking forward to Bucks getting a go at one of them.
Love it!!! I hate Mich and jabba Hoke too. Hoke built his first two classes on tat-gate. Think on the Kyle Kalis recruitment before you lecture urbs about right and wrong.
Look at the O-Lines, coaches, offensive skill position players.
Pryor lost what, 6 games in his career? USC, PSU, Texas, USC, Purdue, Whisky. He was an all timer. Better than any of the Cooper QBs, below Troy, but up there.
Pryor is underrated. The offensive talent, both coaching and players, is way way better for BMiller. Think on the O-Line. Need more time to judge Pryor accurately, but he will be regarded as one of OSU's best.
Nic Sicilliano was our QB coach... and I'm ignorant. Luke has been the DCoord of 2 of the worst OSU D's in the last 15yrs. He's around because he can recruit and he stepped in for Tress. Hopefully he can be a MAC HC next yr so Urbs doesnt have to drop him.
Overrated : Luke Fickell (coach)
Underrated : Jim Tressel
Tressel is about to claim his 3rd scalp when Jabba the Hoke is canned this yr. Tressel built upon the Cooper years and walled off Ohio talent for all other programs, esp Michigan. You can draw a straight line from Tress taking over to downfall of Mich as program. This is all besides the fact that he owned the BIG for 10yrs. I love urbs but we are still living in tress' world.
Fickell can recruit but not coach. That is worth something. He still cant coach tho.
Sad to see Marcus go as well, was hoping they would find a spot for him, always had tons of talent. Maybe he can go to JMU with Withers?
As far as oversigning, we were 1 over in May. Also, I'm more than 50% sure that staff knows of another guy who is moving on or injured. Let's take a worse case and say that they knew the team was 1 over and had to bail on a kid. The program would have to answer to the BIG about that and take some real heat from fans. The staff would be within their rights to bail on a 5th yr anyway.
I'm just sayin, when 5 guys get medical releases and 5 more get bounced for "team rules", every year..... Then we can get upset.
My all time fave, look out for the Generic Dudes.
We will have 3 extra scollies next yr. Its a long way off from NSD 2015, at least one of those guys will earn offer at summer camps this yr. If not I'm sure a few offers for 2016 guys. Glenville pipeline is important for recruiting and for OSU Cleveland fans. Jabba the Hoke will probably offer one of those guys just to troll anyway.
I dont know, Sparty threw in a 5th yr former walk on at Mike to win the Rose bowl. Wiskys LBs are better, Iowas were better this yr. Take your pick of 4 to 5 sec teams. If you want to go back a decade go ahead, but that was Tressel's team and heacocks D, not Luke's.
I 100% agree that the schemes were horrible. Also, let's agree that the schemes did not get any better as season wore on. So like I wrote, same players doing the same things hoping for better results. If you arent going to change scheme, change players for the same scheme. Or do what we did this yr and have the worst D in school history lose us the BIG title, shot at national championship, and a bcs bowl game
I get that Luke is a "great Buckeye" but we easily could have lost to Michigan, because of our D. What would you say then? The same "you werent at practice bro, its not Luke's fault." I dont think so....
No one doubts Fick's recruiting abilities. I dont think he's much of a coach at all. All the Fickell people talk about it AJ Hawk and Lauranitis, those guys were born animals, they we going to be great football players no matter what happened. Start in 2011, it took Luke and VraBro 7 games to play Shazier, who was best LB on team all yr. In 2012 D was weak until we put in Boren at LB, which was Urbs call BTW. 2103 D was weak all yr, esp LBs (outside of Shazier). Look at Orange Bowl, Clemson sent 2 guys to block Shazier every play, no one else wanted to make a play on D (minus Bosa). Look at Vonn Bell, how is he on bench all season? I understand if you dont want to bench an AllBIG player for a frosh who only might be better, but what AllBIG players were there? The idea that we keep sending out the same guys hoping for a different outcome week after week was insane. Coaches did not improve players, coaches did not give other players a shot, coaches had weak gameplans, ect. Sounds like pos coach and D coord issues...
Throw Vonn Bell out there after Whisky when Cbryant was injured. Do you really think coaches thought Pitt was better than VB? He would have had entire season to get better.
JOKE!!! Didn't every starter play in the NFL? I don't think you can say that about many, if any, of the other teams. They won close because Tress wanted to... If all the Clarret BS didn't happen tOSU wins 2 in a row, changes history.
I think this will sting even more when Hyde has a good to great NFL career. He was incredibly difficult to tackle, he has good speed, and although he doesnt break many, he has broken some big gainers. I think best RB since Eddie.
Paging Mr Herman