He seems to have that second gear when he turns the corner, but he almost reminds me of Hines Ward in his build... not a very long looking body, but certainly athletic. I'd like to see how he measures up at the camps against some of the top DB recruits on one-on-ones.
Or... Was it 8 seconds of Tebowing on the phone? Debatable, but does Urban continue to piss excellence? Is the pope catholic? Does a bear sh*t in the wood
Meech - your openness on the recruiting, and your excellent writing is a testament to who you are. We look forward to seeing you continue realizing your dreams at tOSU. It's apparent that you could create your own major - 'Relationship Management' with the way you have presented yourself transparently and eloquently here on 11W. Looking forward to seeing you accomplish big things over your next several years in Buckeye land.
I agree with this (and nice handle). You raise an interesting point with regards to playing aggressive by keeping it 'simple'. I wonder if being aggressive tends to rely more on the natural talent of the players vs a system approach where above average players look like 5-star on-field celebrities.
For example, It would be interesting to know which defensive philosophy is ideal by testing a hypothesis where we could compare the ceiling/potential for results of various defensive philosophies. We could do a 3-arm experiment... Arm A would be a simple defense that allowed for more instinctive and aggressive style of play. Arm B would be a system approach where 3-star recruits could look like 5-star recruits because it allows for weaknesses to be better masked, and Arm C would be a mix - that is, a system that allowed for 3-star players to look like 5-star players, and 5-star players to look like they should be in the NFL (I think this is what Pat Narducci runs at Mich St...) not that his system is 'perfect' or anything, but I can't help but lust after defenses that simply dominate (eg, Seahawks).
You mean 'Hitner'
As of the last 14 years, I agree with your ranking for the most part. In any given year, with all the marbles on the line, those on your Tier 2 list tend to be legitimate threats to having an undefeated season and/or winning the B1G (regular season at least) - and before 2000, I would throw Illinois into that mix, too, but not in the more recent years.
The only change I would make is to move Northwestern to Tier 4 based on their more recent performances against us with the talent they have... if Pat Fitzgerald should ever get some more legit talent, they could be easily be on par with Iowa.
My sentiments exactly. Nickey or no Nickey, if we get back to even half the defense we used to be, I'd feel like a made man. Let me know if you're ever in my 'hood (NYC), I'll buy some beers and we can represent the Buckeyes here in Manhattan.
Brother Hove - how could I forget Gary Berry! Thanks for the flashback... I always thought his body type was more receiver-like, butI believe he was one of the few who were good in pass coverage - honestly, it's such a small sample size I can't remember even the good ones anymore ;p
I love this 'sad but so true' post
Even when we had Lovie Smith coaching the DBs back in the 90s, the safeties were consistently outshined by their CB brethren that has remained through the 21st century (eg, Marlon Kerner, Ty Howard, Shawn Springs, Antoine Winfield, Ahmed Plummer, etc etc). Damon Moore and Doss were absolute beasts, and even then, you could argue that both were awesome on run support and so-so on pass coverage.
In the 90s, the only true safety who I can recall making an impression with my feeble memory (thanks to cooper I had to find a happy place) was Tito Paul, and even then, his memorable play was on a special teams punt coverage - cue highlight reel of Tito (I'm pretty sure it was Tito) layed out in full superman mode on a perfectly timed 'silver bullet defining moment' destruction of a Michigan State player who caught the ball and instantaneously got annihilated (I believe Fred Pagac named Silver bullet after this hit - not sure)
But it other than this... Ramzy is right... We have not had that many memorable safety plays or players...
First, thanks Birm - I enjoy reading your takes on recruits and recruiting.
Second, I believe you wrote about this before, or at least one 11W staffer did, but the cold truth is that every class comes in with high hopes with only a handful truly making indelible impressions on us, let alone becoming NFL material. In fact, it used to stupify me that during the 90s we had success in sending players to the NFL in a fairly large amount (sorry, don't have the numbers).
So, for any recruit that we start salivating over, I think that we are salivating more over their status, their number of stars, their high school clips (against much inferior competition), and quite simply, their hype, than the teenager/person who carries all of it on their shoulders. We should keep a healthy perspective that 5 stars don't guarantee anything... there are injuries, personal circumstances, underachieving, and a lot of other reasons that make college a final destination for many of these kids. So I'm in wholehearted agreement that if a recruit decides to change colors or decline us, to just wish them the best for their sake and nothing more. MSU was a great example of what can be done with even 3 star players, and I truly believe they could have contended for and been respected for their effort in the NCG.
It shouldn't make us root any less for our team or the players we have... the true buckeyes.
I think there have been several comments before that UFM wants continuity since his staff are only asked to commit for 2 years, so though we don't like the idea of 'co-' coordinators, I think the titles are more to do with preserving his system at OSU (or any place he would go).
That said, there may also be the benefits of being able to have a higher ceiling for compensation while retaining a coordinator's role/responsibility when given the added titles. Most importantly, it helps him delegate and manage rather than do everything himself, and go home to his family.
I believe this is what Urban refers to so frequently about increasing the percentage of kids that come into these programs and just disappear for various reasons. He's always been very vocal about his expectation on the coaches to raise the percentage of success (I think it was like 50% drop-out or disappear), and to develop these kids as more than football players. Aside from Cooper, I think we can say that UFM, Tress, and Earle carried on this legacy from Woody.
TSUN being the cesspool of the world and all, we should give credit where credit is due to Hoke - he has a reputation to manage and he's gonna eat Domino's a sh*t ton for his beloved alma mater. True leadership folks.
This offseason was rather interesting with all the coaching changes... looks like Jeremy Pruitt made a lateral move from FSU to Georgia after winning a NC after only 1 year on the job... weird, but also makes me wonder if we would have been better off with him than Ash... the Wisky boards can't wait to see our db's line up 10 yards off the line of scrimmage... this sounds familiar....
Not too surprising considering Urban was close to JoePa, and I'm sure there were many times that he visited JoePa that he got to know LJS, so they probably had mutual respect and admiration for one another before this news... Glad to see that we continue to get stronger... Urban is like a great drug... he just keeps bringin' it~! Close the deal Urbz!
First, thanks for posting this to remind all of us. Second, the telling part of this article is Withers' quote at the end that says "...It’s not any one man’s defense. It’s a group effort.”
Uhh yea... we need a single DC or at least a singular Defensive philosophy and set of schemes that can be implemented harmoniously. Some of the crap defense is certainly the players, but the coaches are at fault for not being able to sell a system effectively and coach it - it sounds like a 3 headed monster that was just waiting to implode... and it did.
Ok, Henry is a freakin' freaky freshman, but it's obvious to me that Hyde would have a field day against this Okie D... they can't handle a powerful back.
OKIE offense has to get 3 on their next drive, or at least run the clock down with a long drive... I hate to say it, but even Tressellball is starting to look appealing in this situation.
I don't take much stock in Todd Blackledge's analysis, but if what he says is true, and that the OKIE defense is built to defend the pass (and be serviceable against the run) to win in a pass-happy league in the Big12, then this may be something for our team to consider... albeit our league is run-happy to set-up play-action... or we can just hire Pat Narduzzi.
Anyone else think Lou is loving this because Mark May is squirming in his swass (sweaty ass). Love hearing him get excited whenever Mark May has to eat crow...
Holy fast gif Teddy! I'd upvote you if I could.
A sarcastic 'wow' is all this poor girl could muster, because the only other alternative is to watch your nightmare bring you tears...
Time to get off the high horse and know that on any given day, you can lose to a coach who basically called out the SEC and is now showing you that you can't stop a good QB no matter how many 5-star DBs you recruit.
I hope our D is watching this, and we play with this type of chip on our shoulders tomorrow and make a statement against Clemson - play like we have nothing to lose! (though we have a lot to lose)
I am loving this defensive effort by OKIE