I guess it was bad defense, but Wisconsin just made a bunch of shots they don't normally make too, as evidenced by your stats.
Are we talking about Laquinton Ross? I'm fairly certain Lyle scored more points in a single game than Ross did his entire season as a frosh. Ross barely even saw the floor (due to his late qualifying).
To play devil's advocate, are these not mismatches because of the depth and quality of the SEC versus the other conferences? Like it or not, Northwestern won 10 games this year and was any way you slice it the #4 or #5 B1G team this year. They lost by 1 million to Tennessee, probably at best the #6/7 SEC team, that I'm sure most of us blasted Bama for playing a close game with.
The point is, the middle of the SEC is just plain better than the middle of all the other conferences. Granted, I don't think the top and bottom of the SEC is any better than the B1G or other conferences, but they do have undeniable depth. Built in advantages and all.
Herein lies the main problem with this team. There's 10 different opinions on here who should be starting/sitting. We seem to have this large collection of tweener guys with various strengths and weakness, and thus far Thad is also unable to find the right combinations. Problem is none of the players really separate themselves as leaders or go to guys who HAVE to be on the court. Tate is probably the one guy who does that through his effort and intensity, but he has a major size limitation which depending on the matchup negates his usefulness.
To me, the 2 guys not pulling their weight are Lyle and Loving. So if we want to resurrect Lyle at the 2, those minutes should come at the expense of Loving.
I personally think Thompson should still be starting over Giddens. He has a much more well rounded game. I love what Giddens brings energy wise, but his is super raw on the offensive end. It should be about a 60/40 split in minutes for Thompson/Giddens. Giddens seems more like the spark off the bench kind of guy for this team.
I get what you're saying about OT, but that game is not a good reference point for JT. I believe he through for like 70 yds the whole game and had 2 picks, one a pick 6 that put PSU back into the game.
If we finish the regular season 19-12 (11-7) with a neutral win of UK, 1 of the home upsets you list, + an implied home win against top 40 Michigan, and some other respectable top 100ish wins we already have, we are in. But would probably need 1 win in B1G tourney to seal the deal. I think you'll be surprised how well we will stack up with other bubble teams by the time it is all said and done, IF they finish as you said.
We've all been pretty negative in these, but you go above and beyond.
...And Lyle knocks in a pair of FTs right in your eye!
Oh man, we're going to have to make a 1 and 1 to win this game. Gulp.
Can't blame the coaches for all of this. Seemed like a pretty good set with Tate on the drive, kicks to an open Diop who double clutches and out thinks himself and makes a mess of it.
Well here's where all those cheap ass fouls will start haunting us. Got a lot of guys with 3-4 fouls.
Strong move by Lyle, finish it damnit.
We were up 56-43 in case anyone was wondering.
I actually want this to stay a 3. If we have a 1 pt lead, we won't try to score and then lose. Tie game, we might try to score and anything can happen.
Over the line Smokey!
And that is how you give a game away...
We've just been hoping 58 pts is going to stand up for the win the last 3 possessions. I've got an idea, try to score.
No, not just you, its been really bad this game.
WTF, dude was just falling over and I dont think Harris even made contact with him!
Yep, Thad should have a rule where either Harris or Mitchell have to be in. Can't have Lyle as lone ball handler.
Wow, this is getting brutal with the touch fouls on OSU. Luckily so far Illinois otherwise can't hit the broadside of a barn.
I know Thad doesn't want to "lose" Lyle completely, but man, we are just trying to tread water while he's in the game and Harris is on the bench.
Sidenote, the offense just feels much more settled and relaxed when Mitchell's in the game.
I couldn't even say how many times in the 2nd half of the year when they went to a replay of an unsuccessful passing play, be it a sack, incompletion, whatever, where Braxton was abusing his defender and either wide open or open enough to warrant a quick hitting pass. JT really did not look his way much at all for whatever reason. Which I still put on the coaching staff, needed to make him the primary receiver more often.
His lack of targets in the passing game was just unfathomable. In addition to this performance, I think his tape is going to show that he was open this year. A LOT. And for whatever reason our QBs did not look his way much, especially JT.
I don't know guess I'm biased, but if I know I have Braxton Miller working the slot running drags past linebackers and posts/corners on safeties, I'm throwing it his way early and often.
Pretty much spot on. I think our ceiling is 19-12 (11-7) regular season. Assume then a winnable B1G tourney game, and then a loss and we are 20-13. It will depend on the other bubble candidates, but we played a pretty tough schedule, and I think if all the above happens you'll be surprised how well we stack up against the other teams.
Unfortunately I side with you and think most likely we go 18-13 or 17-14 and will need a run in the B1G tourney to make it.