Cue the flip out thread "Feder is flipping from the Bucks to pursue a career in the WWE" in 3....2....1...
Whether we agree or disagree about the call, how do you get a 6 point swing out of that? CCC was up 2, he dunked it and got called for the T. They still kept the 2 pts for the dunk (CCC now up 4), and Defiance was going to get the ball back regardless of the call.
The only difference was Defiance got the 2 free throws, which they still had to make by the way. While I agree that was huge and made all the difference in sending the game to OT, calling it a 6 point swing is just not correct, and makes it seem a little crazier than it was.
Thank you, UCONN is the exact point I was going to raise in this thread. I'm too lazy to look up the records and stats, but by every measure except one (very important one - NCs) we have had a much better program over the last 10 years. Way better record, more conference championships, more tourney appearances, higher seeds, etc. But UCONN has pulled 2 National Championships out of their asses in the last 5 years somehow.
Does that make them a better program than us over the last 10 years? Does that make them better than Kentucky in the last 10 years?
It's a tough concept to grasp, but measuring programs' success by NC's in college basketball isn't totally fair. The tournament itself is such a fluke driven event that doesn't usually produce the "best team" as the champion.
He's the 2nd most talented offensive player for sure, but defensively he is somewhat of a liability from what I have seen. But since we shift into the 2-3 zone more often now, it's not as big of a deal. While I don't know about 25-30 mins, should definitely be around 20 mins, taking most of what Loving has been getting. KBD gives us more than Loving right now, plain and simple.
On offense he does seem like he can get to anywhere he wants on the floor and get his shot, just wish he'd be more assertive. He needs some Deshaun Thomas in his game.
Neither. Take VCU straight up at +150.
Sorry, our 1-7 record or whatever it was against the top 50 has me not so optimistic. Won't stop me from rooting for them.
Hah, I'm with you, I like looking down the road and speculating, but a) the VCU game is complete toss-up and b) Arizona looks like the real deal with lots of size that will give us absolute fits. Can't see us staying within 10 pts of Zona, let alone winning this first game.
I know upsets are part of the "madness:, but this does illustrate what a sh*tty job the committee did this year seeding wise. I had a hard time picking the 3/14 and 6/11 pods of the brackets because you have all these overseeded Big 12 teams as #3s and even worse overseeded Big East teams as #6s.
Since the committee was so down on OSU, I really wish they just would've dropped us to an 11 seed somewhere. We'd be waltzing to the sweet 16 by beating some so-so Big East team (Butler/Xavier/Providence) and then a #14 in the 2nd round!
It's interesting that each of your individual points are very true, yet you last statement I have a hard time agreeing with. Next year we ship out this very disappointing class of seniors and replace them with a very nice mix of 5 highly ranked freshman and a 7' center transfer in Thompson.
Russell is obviously 99% gone and that will hurt big time, but the barometer is still pointing up for me next year. Worst case is a similar season as this year.
What a disaster of a program to be a fringe top 25 team and make the tournament every year. And that's in "down" years.
Puncher's chance, more so because the rest of the B1G is also somewhat mediocre and unpredictable. Somebody could knock off Wisconsin for us as well, depending on the bracket. At this point we should be pleased if they just pick up a W or two and make it to the semi's and/or finals.
This should be revisited following the next 2 games. Any combination of results would not surprise me.
Yeah, I'd rather us be a 10/11 seed than an 8/9. The stats are out there, but 10 seeds and even 11 seeds are more likely to advance to the Sweet 16 than 8 and 9s. Sure it may be a little bit tougher game 1st round, but your 2nd round game is a lot easier if you get through. Outside of the top 5-6 teams in the country, I feel like this edition of the Buckeyes is capable of beating just about anybody, and capable of losing to anybody.
Should be an interesting seeding case for the Buckeyes. Only a couple decent home wins, and an otherwise non-inspiring resume. The same thing can be said for about 20 other teams so who knows how they'll sort them out.
As glorious as it was, technically that occurred in Tempe. Our other NCG that did take place in Glendale is one we'd like to forget.
Not going to make excuses for him, but part of the "wall" he's hitting is the one called "B1G officiating lets teams beat the crap out of you". Just feel like the recent road losses @ Purdue, MSU, and TTUN those teams ganged up pretty good on him. Lots of tough, physical B1G defense being applied. And more than a few "how is that not a foul?" utterances from me as he goes to the basket.
I feel like a side effect of that is he is settling for contested 3's a lot more now, versus taking it to the paint and creating. For the first time all year, he actually looks a little unsure of what he wants to do with the ball on the move.
Conley is not open to opinion? Sure, he took the world by storm in the NCAA tourney that year, and was a really good player in his just 1 year in the program, but I think a lot of your opinion is being swayed by his NBA success. I think Scoonie Penn, Aaron Craft, and Evan Turner could be up for discussion there. Turner won Nation POY of the year while essentially handling the point exclusively in 2010.
Funderburke was one of my favorite players of that era, but seriously? In no specific order, any of these are better choices at PF:
While I wouldn't say we are on the "bubble", I wouldn't put us anywhere near a lock status to be in either. Last I checked in the RPI, our non-conference SOS was like #214 or something terrible like that. We're 3-5 against the top 50 and 6-6 against the top 100. And the B1G is kind of down this year, so there's not a lot to hang our hat on other we obviously have the talent of a top 20 team.
They'll need to finish strong to land in the #7 seed range, but I would not be surprised for some disappointment in these parts when our seed comes out. Because I don't think some people here grasp the reality of how bad our non-conference schedule was, and how it will negatively affect our seeding.
Exactly this! I can't believe it hasn't happened already. He is out there in the way and half the time not even looking at the person with the ball. Really it shouldn't even have to be the person with the ball. Run a screen for a 3 point shooter over there and whip a pass in that direction and let them all run into each other. Would have to be an instant technical on Crean.
I think a 7 seed seems about right, with a realistic maximum of a 6 seed. If we want to upset somebody and make it to the sweet 16 or beyond, 6-7 seed is a good spot to be in. Definitely want to avoid landing in the 8-9 spot and having to play a #1 if you can even win the toss up 8/9 game.
I also think they drop at least a couple more games and end up around 24-9. With some really terrible non-conf games dragging down our SOS and RPI type rankings, it will be interesting to see what the committee does with us. Can't see us going higher than a 7 unless we really put a run together and get some surprise wins (Wisc) down the stretch.
It's a good thing he didn't catch the black lung while he was in there.
I'm more upset with the fans who are upset at the other fans for being upset about Mike Weber being upset with Drayton/Meyer/OSU.
Only thing I've concluded is a lot of people are upset around these parts for not even being a month removed from a national championship and a couple days from another top 10 recruiting class.
I would assume if he did take $$$ from Bama or wherever, it would affect his eligibility at any school in the NCAA. It's more of an individual issue, nothing OSU did wrong or would be in trouble for. But who knows for sure with NCAA rules.
Ugh, is that what I said? Negative rumormongering? Circling way back to the original comment by Bassbropper that started this tangent...No, I don't think someone should get 15 downvotes for basically saying "if this is what happened, then this is how I feel about it." How in the hell is that negative rumormongering?
Sorry, I was just jumping on the concept of downvoting people because they used the word IF. I don't agree with that. Everyone uses it, which hilariously you did in your monkeys example by saying "If you start a sentence with..." So you essentially just tried putting words in my mouth by using the very same tactic you were saying people were getting downvoted for. Apples and oranges, I know, but I think it illustrates the point.
Then that is a dumbass reason to DV someone. I guess I don't read things as "accusations" when someone makes the disclaimer of IF, because in this case they are right. IF it is true, then it is a pretty crappy things. I don't see too many people throwing rocks, just discussing our thoughts on what may or may not have went down here.
I mean if (oops there's that word) we're not allowed to discuss hypotheticals on this forum, we'd have a lot less to talk about.