Agree 100% on Campbell and Hill. Campbell was a pretty damn good RB in HS, and seems better suited to carry the ball on occasion versus catch it. Hill on the other hand looks like a natural pure WR to me. Hopefully the coaching staff agrees with us.
Same here. After he missed the open 3 just a few seconds before the wide open layup, I found myself pondering whether he has ever made a "big shot" in his career - like last minute or two of a game, to tie or take a lead. Until tonight I want to say no, and I'm not sure an uncontested layup necessarily counts in the clutch department. I know in the last 6-8 mins of this game alone, he probably missed at least 5 straight shots when it was a 1-2 pt game. Feels like that is the story every close game.
Even if those career stats were from this single year, he still shouldn't have been a Heisman finalist.
Not just accurately, but on TIME please. That was the bigger issue to me. JT lost his confidence and therefore timing. He was too gun shy for most of the year. Most of the issues on his deep balls was he waited too long to throw it. It's like dude, you can't throw it 70 yds, so you're going to have to let it go sooner.
I'm in the camp that JT is no where near the "greatest QB" in school history, but he is pretty good, and should definitely be the starter next year barring injury. And hoping that the new coaches can get him back playing the way he can.
Recency bias is definitely a thing a lot of us our guilty of on here. So is selective memory. No one would deny the greatness of JT's performance @ MSU in 2014. But he was very average to bad (@PSU, IU) in the other 4-5 games surrounding that one before getting hurt, which no one seems to remember.
And no, I do not believe we win the championship in 2014 with JT at QB those last 3 games. But that is just an opinion and it is a pointless argument, no one knows what could have or would have happened if JT didn't get hurt. All we know is we played our best 3 games of the year with Cardale at QB. That FACT cannot be disputed, outside of saying the @MSU game fits somewhere in there as one of the best performances.
EDIT: For the record, I am currently in favor of sticking with JT as the starter now that we have some new coaching blood in. Going with these unknown young backups is the easiest way to have a disaster or two. JT is our best option to win the B1G and make the CFP next year. But until I see it, I will have my doubts when we run into a Bama or Clemson/FSU type team in the playoffs that he/this offense can be effective against the elite.
I'm with you, I think at least 1 of Samuel, Raekwon, or Lattimore surprise us and come back. Looking at this depth chart, Lattimore would be the most helpful to have back.
Not sure where all this doubt on Ward is coming from. He played pretty well for being the backup/3rd corner and a freshman. I look for him to be as solid of a starter as we have back there next year. Arnette on the other hand, geez I hope we have somebody coming in or already in who can pass him up. He seems more like a safety to me, cover skills wise.
Not sure exactly which spot, but I would keep an eye on Jordan Fuller at one of the DB spots.
Was he really though? 2014 schedule was pretty weak. As every JT supporter has told us 10,000 times, he played the best game of his career against MSU that year. Was totally on point that night. The games before it, and after it, I recall lots of the same struggles against anyone remotely competent. 2014 played out pretty similar to 2016 in regular season numbers. Huge stat padding 6 TD games against MAC teams and low level B1G teams, and then terrible-to-decent passing numbers against the 3 or 4 top 25 defenses we see in each year.
Somehow to this day, Cardale gets very little credit for what he elevated the team to in the 2014 postseason (against the 3 best teams we played all year), while simultaneously JT gets more credit for what he didn't do.
I challenge some crazy 11W'er who has nothing but free time to go through every game JT has played in during his career, and put together a video of every single pass in JTs career that has traveled over 20 air yards. The ratio of terribly thrown passes to completions would be staggering. And in my opinion the % would not change drastically from 2014 to 2015 to 2016. He's been throwing the same ducks on deep balls his entire career. What would change is number of deep pass attempts. Which may be playcalling but may also be JT unwilling to let it fly.
And this where the chicken and the egg thing comes in. Do we blame the coaches for the playcalling or JT from limiting them as playcallers? Probably a little of both, but I don't think the coaches believe JT can complete a deep pass so they don't bother calling it very often. And for all we know, when they do dial it up, he doesn't even pull the trigger on some of them.
But but...what about MSU '14?! /s
Yeah, I at least got $100 for regular season champ. $50 buy in, so I came out ahead at least. But I could taste the additional $300 for playoff champ.
Haha yeah, I actually skimmed the game notes and that was the best part. Somehow tOSU knocks Watson out of the game in the 1st half, but then goes on to get roasted by 20 points. Something tells me if Watson were to miss 3/4s of this game in real life, Clemson would have almost no chance.
Stanton clearly is saying the question has been answer in the B1G's favor. Not sure how the results could be interpreted any other way.
B1G had its 7th best team in Minnesota just travel across the country with 10 suspended players and beat Wash St., the Pac-12s 5th best team. 8th-9th place Northwestern beat a ranked Pitt squad, again probably 4th-6th best ACC team. Yes the B1G's worst bowl participant Maryland lost to BC, another 6-6 team, but that game was the least meaningful of all.
Then you have maybe the biggest mismatch of the bowl season for the B1G, with 6-6 IU (8th-9th best from B1G) playing across the country against #19 Utah (4th best PAC-12), and if not for a missed FG and some shaky clock management at the end, only lost by 2.
Still a lot of games to be played and the top 4 need to perform, but the simple fact that the B1G's bottom tier just went 2-2 against mostly mismatches on paper, tells you everything you need to know.
Even as a freshman, Joey Bosa is a pretty obvious choice, but I might also be inclined to take true freshman Vonn Bell over Damon Webb at Safety.
That was the frustrating thing about the 2013 Silver Bullets. The individual talent was there across the board, but they never played anywhere near that potential as a unit. After seeing the immediate dividends of the coaching change (Withers to Ash), I think we all know what the real issue was.
I've noticed this as well (ad surely other defenses have), JT loves to scramble to his right. Prince has unquestionably played subpar against the elite defenses, but I think JT has contributed to some of these sacks. He is often indecisive with the ball or just not able to quickly find a WR.
As the dead horse has been beaten many times, I think the issue of "sacks allowed" is equal parts o-line, JT holding the ball, and WRs not getting open. You can't really pin it all on Prince, or JT, or WRs. It's a combination of all 3, and on any given play that breaks down, one of those 3 units did a poor job.
I have to believe all 3 units will be improved heading into this game, and I think we will all be pleasantly surprised in the overall performance of the passing game.
I think we are all waiting on that.
Anybody else think KJ is poised for the 3rd year (redshirt soph) breakout next year, same that Michael Thomas experienced in 2014? He just looks the part of a true WR, good sized frame, fluid and makes play when he's out there. Something that cannot be said for the majority of the other guys. And I felt the same way with Thomas in early 2014 when we were searching for that true WR on the outside.
Maybe we have a 2nd year in a row shocker in the CBS Sports Classic? I thought they had no chance against UK last year, and once again think they have no chance against UCLA this year.
Iowa (especially on the road) is more or less an even trade. I say that knowing nothing of either team's returning rosters.
On the contrary, if the CFP has taught us anything, it is that you can lose virtually ANY game on your schedule, outside of an FCS team, so long as that loss does not prevent you from winning your conference. Especially when you have a very solid schedule as the one above while playing one of the toughest divisions in the sport.
This year's schedule and key wins allowed us to overcome not winning the B1G, not our one loss.
I honestly believe OSU could afford a loss to Army, UNLV, Rutgers, Illinois, take your pick of the worst teams on our schedule, so long as they win the conference championship and finish with 1 loss, they are making the playoffs.