Are they lesbians? That would be well worth watching... otherwise NOPE.
It wasn't that long ago that the Cowboys were full of suck as well.
The Browns can do this they need to just get moving up the W column and down the L column because momentum is everything and it uplifts a team to be inspired; inspired to want to hang some W's on their opponents. It's a culture of winning and that is only going to occur if the front office can convince young talent why playing for them can making a difference for the organization and for the player.
I completely agree and intended to write this exact thing upon reading the threat topic.
Sometimes when we are young (like this team is) we need a smack across the face to make us wake up and realize that we are not quite there yet. This loss, an epic loss, has hopefully wakened the beast to come.
Exactly. Whatever happened to the days of play where you are picked? With this constant cycle of "NO" the Browns need to raid the free agency market and get things turned around. Last thing I want is someone in my fox hole that doesn't want to be there and is wanking all the time about wanting to be in the enemy's fox hole.
I think it was the shenanigans by the players and coaches and well... the boosters that destroyed the U.
The epic loss didn't hurt either.
Absolutely - we got exposed BUT I see the ol' ball coach is making good changes and we had (I think) 44 young'ens on the team this past season whereas the other examples were not as youthful as we currently are.
I agree 100% and find your post to be ranked as one of the best I have read in a long time.
All solid points which are assured with the most recent Super Bowl game and all the focus on the Patriots while no one is mentioning how bad the Falcons (entire team) choked.
Yes, that's the one. Insert hand clap here. :-)
Seriously, no idea how to add them in here. Images, not a problem, .gif's not so much.
Your point sir is on point and merits further investigation.
Insert hand clapping here... one of you nerds please put that here, I'm old and don't care enough to figure out how to insert it. I will pay you handsomely with an upvote. :-)
I think that he is not going to benefit by gray shirting; that simply makes no sense. Take your talent elsewhere... anywhere else well... except TTUN because well... they're TTUN.
Happy about the class; wow! Epic. I had some worries with kids flipping to Cincinnati but it all seemed to have worked out and they were most likely recruited original by the new ball coach there.
*** Yeah, about that image of the 17... sorry fella's but not your best work.
Oct 14, 1916 Ohio State vs Oberlin (THE 128 to ZERO game). The ticket also has Lynn St. John's autograph on the reverse.
1916 was a stellar season for the Buckeyes, led by one of the all-time greats, Chic Harley. The Buckeyes outscored their opponents 258-29 that season, and Ohio State was named Western Conference Champions at the end of the season. There were thrilling games along the way, like a 7-6 win over Illinois and a 14-13 win over Wisconsin as the Badgers came to Ohio Field undefeated and left with championship hopes dashed. But the most dominant win for the Buckeyes in 1916, and to this day, was the 128-0 victory over Oberlin on Oct. 14.
Ohio State scored touchdowns on their first two offensive plays, and it was all downhill from there. The score was 33-0 by the end of the first quarter, and a staggering 67-0 at the half. Fullback Dick Boesel had four touchdowns, and halfback Fred Norton had five touchdowns. The final score of 128-0 stands 98 years later as the greatest margin of victory in program history, the most points scored by the Buckeyes in a single game, and the only time Ohio State has scored over 100 points in a single game.
Oberlin's football program was founded by John Heisman -- you may have heard of him, or at least you've heard of the trophy that is his namesake. Oberlin has a pretty storied football history, and while things certainly didn't go their way on that October day in 1916, Oberlin was the last in-state school to actually beat Ohio State, defeating the Buckeyes, 7-6, in 1921. Based on this season's performances against the University of Cincinnati and Kent State, Oberlin seems likely to hold onto that distinction for a while longer.
IF YOU CALL YOURSELF A BUCKEYE, then you simply must read this:
The 1916 game against Illinois is considered by many Ohio State football historians as the greatest football game in Ohio State history. One has to take in to account that the football program up to this point was unlike anything modern fans are used to and was certainly not taken seriously… that was all about to change by the outcome of the effort put forth by Ohio State at Illinois Field on October 21, 1916.
First year Phenom, Charles "Chic" Harley and the Buckeyes were surely tired for just one week prior they beat Oberlin University 128-0 for what remains today as the largest victory in Ohio State history but what was about to happen is considered the beginning of what we all know today as the elite program of our beloved Buckeyes.
Excerpts borrowed from The One and Only, Chic Harley by Todd C. Wessell p.p. 54-59. If you do not own the book, please ask for it as a Christmas gift, I promise you will not regret getting a copy.
“The Buckeyes’ 1916 battle against the Fighting Illini is, without question, one of the greatest football games ever played by an Ohio State team. In fact, it may indeed be the greatest. Whole no one really identified the full significance of the contest at the moment the final whistle sounded, history revealed that without the 7-6 victory, and the way it was snatched in the final seconds by Chic Harley, it’s questionable that Ohio State and its storied football program of today would have evolved the way it has.
Heading into the contest on Illinois turf in Champaign, Ohio wasn’t given much chance. Illinois had been a perennial power in the Western Conference, winning the league title the year before. In fact, Coach Bob Zuppke, in his third year at Illinois, hasn’t lost a conference contest since the 19-9 loss to Minnesota in 1913. His players were big, quick, and talented, with Bart Macomber captain, George Halas at end, and Ed “Dutch” Sternaman at halfback.
A few hours before the 2 P.M. kickoff, Zuppke gave the visiting players a tour of the Illinois trophy room, where awards, balls, and all sorts of hardware were on display. This clever bit of hospitality more likely was a tactic to intimidate the visitors. That day, the weather in Champaign-Urbana and surrounding cornfields was horrible, with intermittent rain that made the gridiron a sea of mud. Neither team could get on track as 4,388 fans (175 from Columbus) huddled on the bleachers, trying to keep dry and warm. Just moments after play began, a fumble by Ohio State gave Illinois good field position. Two complete passes set up a successful field goal for Macomber from a difficult angle. Two more field goal attempts a few minutes later by Macomber failed, leaving Illinois with a 3-0 lead at the end of the first period. In the second quarter, Harley and Ohio continued to struggle with the wet conditions, picking up a few yards here and there and occasionally thrown for a loss. Finally, on a fake punt, Harley picked his way through opposing tacklers for a twenty-five-yard gain around the left end. But on the next play, he was thrown for a loss, and a play later, a forward pass from Harley to Shifty Bolen was incomplete. Later in the period, a forty-five-yard field goal attempt by Chic failed. After the Illini gave up the ball on downs, as did the Buckeyes, a punt by Harley was accidentally blocked by one of his teammates, with the referee ruling that the ball belonged to Illinois. Macomber, running and passing, again was called on to make a field goal as the second period ended. This time it was good from twenty yards.
Buckets of rain continued to fall, forming a sea of small puddles and uprooted turf as the second half of play began. Cleats were like street shoes on ice. Jerseys and padded pants were caked in mud. Players’ faces were unrecognizable. Still, the two teams battled up and down the gridiron, with Rhodes and Harley carving out one- and two-yard gains and Macomber booming fifty- and sixty-yard punts following unsuccessful Illini attempts at first downs. A few trick plays netted six or seven yards, not enough to prevent Ohio from punting nine times in the game and Illinois, seven.
In the fourth quarter, with Illinois clinging to a 6-0 lead, play began to open up. Harley, unable to get going for anything longer than his twenty-five-yard scamper in the second period, was called on to handle some of the punting. Macomber went to the air more often for Illinois, and the crafty Sternaman started chalking up four-, five-, and six-yard gains on the ground. Following an eight-yard punt return by Harley to midfield, Ohio State suddenly began gaining sizable chunks on the ground. L.A. Friedman replaced Yerges at Quarterback, and his hot passing gained eleven yards, then six yards. Their hopes at scoring fizzled when Chic was thrown for a seven-yard loss and a Harley-to-Bolen pass attempt was incomplete. Illinois then came right back, with Sternaman and Macomber leading the way with runs. With just a few minutes remaining, Harley, running for his life after a handoff, “seemed confused,” but managed to complete a pass to end Clarence MacDonald for eighteen yards. Two more forward passes put the Buckeyes on the Illini thirteen-yard line as the clock ticked away the final moments. With about two minutes left in the game, the situation was third down and three yards to go for Ohio State. The outcome rested on Wilce’s next one or two plays and on the skill and luck of his players, who had to contend with not only an opponent desperate to stop them, but also terrible weather conditions.
“Two minutes of bitter struggle remained,” Wilce later wrote of one of his greatest thrills in a three-decade coaching career. “A long forward pass from Chic Harley to end MacDonald had carried Ohio from its twenty-yard line to midfield, and a succession of short tosses, in which the future aviator Fred Norton figured prominently, made it fourth down with three yards to go on the Illinois thirteen-yard line. Then came a great play.”
“The game was nearly over,” remembered team center Fritz Holtkamp. “But the Buckeyes were pressing down over a sodden, miserable field. They were inside the fifteen-yard line. A flash of Scarlet and the freshman halfback Illinois had heard of had raced loose for a touchdown.”
As a newspaper described it the next day, “Harley received the ball from quarterback Kelley Van Dyke that started to be a forward pass play. Harley saw the Illinois defense on the right side of the line momentarily sucked in, triggering him to plug the ball under his arm and dart across the field. With his legs carrying him as fast as he could Chic whisked by the outstretched arms of several defenders and dropped the ball across the goal in the far northwest corner.”
The roar from the small contingent of Buckeye rooters was deafening, and Harley’s teammates went wild, not believing what they had just witnessed. “He faked to pass then ran to the left,” recalled Wilce. “Two teammates going to the left as possible pass receivers blocked the defensive end and right halfback. Harley outran the fullback, straight-armed the safety man and dove for a touchdown in the extreme left corner of the field. As teammates jumped up and down, hands and helmets raised, uncontrollable, soaked Ohio fans shrieked in delight, and Illini fans mumbled their disappointment, one more job awaited. Harley was not through thinking. He called time, asked for a clean right shoe to replace the mud-heavy one he had on.”
Moments earlier, after scoring the TD in dramatic fashion, Harley punted the ball from his end zone, which in those days was a requirement for a chance at kicking the extra point. Norton, whose catching ability later in the fourth quarter was so important, threw his hands and body around Chic’s punt at the twenty-two-yard line, where the ball would have to be placed for the point after touchdown.
“Gimme a shoe,” said Harley to team trainer Doc Gurney. The cleat he was handed was not only dry, but a special square-toe design created by team manager Joe Mulbarger, Chic’s pal and former high school teammate. In practice, Chic was perfect when he used this shoe; with other shoes he occasionally missed.
“Calmly, as if the battle were just starting, the Ohio freshman waited while out from the sidelines came the immortal Doc Gurney, the Buckeyes trainer- carrying one clean square-toed shoe that was to be the instrument in deciding a Big Nice championship,” wrote Holtkamp.
As Chic laced up his new shoe, Wilce, always the psychologist, briskly and nervously in uncustomary fashion walked up and down the Buckeye bench instructing “all Ohio substitutes to concentrate on just one image – the picture of Harley kicking the winning point after touchdown.”
On the field, waiting for Harley, was a calm Van Dyne, who had volunteered to hold the ball for Harley, the first time he had ever been put into that role.
“A scoreboard that showed the score 6-6,” wrote Columbus Citizen reporter E.H. Penisten, “An almost breathless stillness of suspense broken only by the wind that swept the grey sentinel bleachers on either side of the field. Four thousand spectators who realized that only a simple minute of time remained, whose hearts beat with a mingled feeling of hope for victory and dread of impending defeat. And down on a rain-soaked field a scarlet jerseyed player – a freshman playing his first big game, lacing his shoes for an attempt at goal that was to mean more than any one play in the two score years of football history of his alma mater.”
With mud splattered across his face, jersey, socks, pants, and left shoe, Harley stood nearly ankle deep in muck waiting for the snap to Van Dyke. The hike was perfect, as Chic gauged the distance carefully from the line and sent the ball sailing perfectly between the uprights. For a moment, stone silence. Then pandemonium broke out among State fans. Several people fainted in the bleachers, said reports. With the minute that remained on the clock, Illinois tried desperately to recover, but couldn’t. Delirious Buckeye fans – all 175 of them – broke down a fence in front of the bleachers, running up to members of the team to congratulate them, slapping them on the back, hugging, and dancing around like little children. Harley, the hero who had scored all seven points in spectacular fashion, fled in embarrassment for the more comfortable confines of the locker room. As he was running, tackle Bob Karch threw his arms around Chic and carried him all the way to the dressing room, tears streaming down his face.” (Wessell, 2009).
My 1916 Ohio State vs. Illinois Real Photo Post Card (RPPC).
And a ticket from the game that I just picked up.
You attention to detail is uncanny. I cannot count how many times I have watched the reported 1919 game and found myself wishing I owned it and now to find out that it very well may not only not be from 1919 but by that alone that means that is also not Harley. Wow!
I haven't posted on here in a while because I thought the thread was going to close down BUT it continues to draw attention so onward we will go.
I have several new items that I will post up in the next day or so and I am also waiting on the arrival of THE oldest photo of Chic Harley in uniform (circa 1913) to arrive and will be sure to post that up among the other things that are along with it.
This is a brilliant mindset to have. I, being a car guy, struggled for many years because I always wanted a new sports car or muscle car and the nicest SUV my money could buy; I have owned them all from Cayenne Turbo, 911 Turbo, Viper, Z06 Corvettes, to old Muscle Cars, and the list goes on and on.
When I moved to Italy I quickly realized that I can have a nice, but not uber expensive car, and enjoy to drive it. My cars now are a 2009 VW Tiguan (2.0 with turbo) and a 2010 Mini Cooper 'S' that I have put some mods on. I paid cash for both so have no debt but did retain full coverage just in case; but essentially the cars when bought 2 years ago were still like new. Competing with "the Jones" family does nothing but destroy your bank accounts and as you noted simply buys you a depreciating item that is as far from an investment as one could get.
Living overseas but having USPS via my local site (post); Amazon has really been pissing me off lately. I ordered some toys for my Godson around the 20th of December and they are still not here. If bought under a Prime seller you cannot even complain via the site because they are somehow protected from such a thing whereas normal sellers can have complaints filed against them. We are talking FIVE WEEKS to send a Hulk and Thor action figure to a 2 year old that is just dying to get them... some God Father I am. THANKS Ama-Slow.
Strippers love cash in hand over trying to swipe the card down their backside...
I've driven a combined 8 years here and have never received a ticket. Where were you? Autostrada with autovelux? You just have to avoid those areas because they are stationary radar sites BUT always (by law) must be marked.
I have been in the left lane doing 150+ (MPH, not KM/hr) and flashed my lights and the cars that moved over were.... Polizia. I have never been stopped.
The wall is also there to keep a massive flow of tourists in or out (depends on how hot they are).
My last trip to Lucca was in a Porsche 911 Carrera 4S up from Rome to Lucca and over to Florence; what a blast of a trip because much of it was done off of the autostrada via secondary roads with lots of curves.
Ha-HAIR-iess!!! Made me laugh out loud that one!!!
No kidding right? Look at the stands - I think there may be 25 people there...
I have lived all over Italy and am currently living in Rome (since September) and love every minute of it and agree 100% with what you wrote. The food, the sites, the history, the women, the deserts, the women, the beaches, the women, etc. are all amazing!!!!!!
- Large items that are above the $2k range I try very hard to plan for and save the $$$ = I have no debt at all and haven't for years.
- Small items that fall in the under $1k to $2k range; here is how I buy:
1. Never on credit (if I am borrowing money from the bank to buy I do not do it). If I have money in the bank to cover it (aka I saved up) then I will pay with a credit card, get the card points and cash back, then pay it off.
2. When online (e.g. Amazon, etc.); I put things in my cart and let them sit there until I have given myself time to think on whether or not I need it. I have also disallowed the ability to have "one click" purchase because that function exists not for my convenience but for the convenience of Amazon to entice me to buy things before I have pondered whether or not I even need it.
3. My wife and I talk about ALL purchases and this is done so we can be a second check for one another as to whether or not we need the item or can do without it. She's better than I am so this is yet another barrier of protection.
4. Not relating to my life but some of yours. If your wives are hitting online shopping everyday and you have boxes of stuff arriving non-stop = you have a gigantic issue in your home unless:
a. you are rich.
b. you really need all the stuff she is ordering.
c. you are rich.
*** Good luck on that... if she can't be trusted to protect your savings then.... well... she can't be trusted.
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