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ibuck


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OSU grad, born in Cincinnati, now living on west coast.

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  • COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYER: Archie Griffin
  • COLLEGE BASKETBALL PLAYER: John Havlicek (was lucky enough to meet him)
  • NFL TEAM: 49ers (Also lucky: met Joe Montana, Steve Young, R
  • MLB TEAM: Giants

Recent Activity

Comment 19 hours ago

Isn't this more about using your heart (compassion) than brain?

Comment 20 hours ago

You may have something about big cities, but couldn't it be cultural as well?  At OSU 2 athletes get caught and excoriated for peeing on a building in the dark. There are 375,371 people in the Tallahassee metropolitan area, so it's not small. Yet there wasn't even a half-hearted investigation of a rape complaint against an athlete.

USC and Miami are private schools that aren't subject to Freedom of Information laws like state schools like OSU are. Stonewalling is actually a feasible strategy for them. Was that happening in Miami, frustrating NCAA investigators and leading the NCAA folks to overreach?  I don't know, but isn't it possible? 

Also, historically Texas has been a frequent contender for NC titles. Was Mack Brown's running a relatively clean program the cause for their decline, and Mack's ouster? I don't know that either, but wouldn't you like to know if SEC boosters or bag men were keeping prospects from even visiting? I'd love to see the NY Times investigate that. You know ESPN would never do it. 

OSU, PSU, and USC were hit hard by sanctions; the programs at Texas, Oklahoma and Nebraska have declined in prominence. ESPN promoting the SEC might be powerful, but it's not the only reason for the rise in schools from the Southeast. It's not just higher coach salaries, either.  IMO, there are multiple reasons for the widespread sentiment that the SEC is the best football conference, and that Miami and FSU are up there with them. 

Comment 16 Apr 2014

Mr. Green, thanks for that link.  That post and the Bag Man story have really cast the Southern culture in a bad light. My dismay & concerns are posted in an 11W blog here.

Comment 16 Apr 2014

Brooklyn & Squirrel, did you read the following in the Bag Man article?

"We can only get away with whatever's considered reasonable by the majority of the folks in our society. That's why it's different in the SEC. Maybe that's why we're able to be more active in what we do. Because no one ever looks at the car or the jewelry and says, 'How did you get that, poor football player?' They say, 'How did they get you that and not get caught, poor football player?'"

There might not be a cultural mandate, but describing an October Saturday in the South as a culture accepting of this behavior would be a raging understatement.

It was the article / bag man that indicted the South (and not just the SEC).  I know that neither Miami nor FSU are in the SEC. But it appears those schools have *had* similar cultures. I don't know for certain that there aren't bag men for OSU, but after the media witch-hunt, public records requests, etc, and endless coverage of the story, it sure seemed that Ohio State cooperated fully: they forced out a loved coach, barred Pryor and the Cleveland construction company owner from campus for 5 or more years, reorganized their scrutiny and accountability watchdogs outside the athletic department. Do hundred dollar handshakes with Buckeye athletes still occur ? Perhaps. But again, it sure seems less likely to happen here as in the South. 

My point isn't that OSU has completely eliminated the possibility. Rather I was decrying the culture of those who claim that secret payments are OK, or "not a big deal," or "it can't be stopped." As the article claimed the bag man asserted.  If true, the bribes to athletes, the over-signing with conference approval, the dumping of athletes who don't meet expectations, the blind eye (by schools, conferences, ESPN, police authorities, etc) turned to unethical, immoral or illegal behavior by athletes or boosters, all seem to indicate that this bs allows these schools to recruit and play more of the best athletes. Since 2000, how many teams from this region of the country have won national championships?  

And the payments to athletes contribute to the entitlement a lot of these athletes feel. And too often these entitled athletes' behavior is not acceptable, whether they are in school, in the NFL, or out of school. I'm sure we can all think of examples.  So I am simply urging us, as a culture, not to accept this behavior, whether by the athletes, the schools, the conferences, the alumni & boosters, the media, or the NCAA.

Finally, there's no denying that paying athletes and "boys will be boys" have been around for a long time. The universities don't allow a lot of things they used to do, and have instructed the NCAA to enforce the tougher rules. The world has changed, so bringing up what happened decades ago is not relevant, just like saying people of different races or sexual orientation can't marry.

BTW, I did not DV either of you.

Comment 16 Apr 2014

Not sure about that. I read Ben's autobiography, and he was a very hip polymath. And he played the violin, harp, guitar and harmonica, and he composed music in the then current style. If Franklin was around today to do rap or hip-hop, it might well be better than it is now.

Comment 15 Apr 2014

This ^ !  While our defense was not good, our offense didn't get it done vs MSU or Clemson. Just look at the woeful 3rd down conversion rate in each game. It doesn't matter how fast our O is if Braxton doesn't pitch the ball to the RB or hit the WR in stride. BM must execute, and receivers and backs must catch the ball and hang on to it. Against equally talented teams, that did not happen.

And if our D is fast, but takes the wrong angle or doesn't tackle properly, it's not an advantage. They still have to play solid football.

Comment 15 Apr 2014

I think you put too much value on that Cal game, where he got 90 yards on that 1st play, against a team whose defense was abjectly horrible and whose only win last season was against an FCS school that went 6-6.

Comment 15 Apr 2014

Do you not even suspect that there are forces at universities trying to get the schools to drop football, with all its costs and liabilities, and focus on the basic task of educating people? 

BTW, no, $150k is not a paltry sum. That's fantasyland.

Comment 15 Apr 2014

I suspect that D1 college football would be vastly changed, if not nearly destroyed, by these so-called market value figures. And probably nearly the same impact by the more pricy stipend fees being suggested by some.

What would be the incentive for a school to continue to field a team that loses millions of dollars each year—supported by the schools general funds—and could result in additional millions in liabilities for injuries suffered while playing or practicing the sport? Could the couple dozen schools that make money find continued success if their opponent pool dwindled to under 30 schools? Would fans still be as enthused to pay steeply higher ticket prices and/or cable TV fees? 

IMO, the unexamined cries to "pay the players more" risk destruction of the sport we love. 

Comment 14 Apr 2014

Gray wins 17-7, with these best of game performances per @OhioStateAthletics tweets:

JT Barrett 15/33 * 17 of 33 for 151 yds and 1 fumble resulting in Scarlet's only TD.  

Warren Ball 8 carries for 55 yds, TD.

Michael Thomas 6 rec for 64 yds.

Were these efforts against a GOOD Scarlet defense? Or were they more like last season's D?

Was the Gray defense better?

* Edit: ohiostatebuckeyes.com has 17 for 33 in the "official" box score. I don't know why this has been misreported so many places.

Comment 14 Apr 2014

Congrats, aquagals !

With them winning synchro championships repeatedly, have any OSU women won Olympic medals in this sport?

Comment 12 Apr 2014

Halftime stats per cleveland.com and @OSUathletics

Gray leads 10-7, and has 189-44 yardage advantage.

Gray's J.T. Barrett: 15-of-27 for 112 yards, Michael Thomas receiving 4 for 42 yds. Bri'onte Dunn has 30 yds rushing & the game's only offensive TD.

Scarlet's Cardale Jones: 6-of-15 for 7 yards.

Comment 11 Apr 2014

"why with all this talent and coaching, at a school like tOSU, do we seem to just bumble along?

I've been in California for 36 years, and I've heard the Buckeyes abused in sports bars and sports radio, and I've wondered myself why OSU athletes in both football and basketball so often perform like deer in the headlights. Could it be perhaps the athletes' sense of entitlement; something like "I've got an OSU scholarship, so I don't have to try that hard: winning is guaranteed."  Scoonie Penn, Maurice Clarett and some '02 defenders are obvious examples of athletes that were very determined to win, so it hasn't been everyone. But far too many Buckeye athletes seem to not know (or follow) the OSU song, "Our honor defend, we will fight to the end, for Ohio."  I hope Meyer is correct, and that leadership will make the difference.

Comment 11 Apr 2014

Re: Meet the Bagman:

"We can only get away with whatever's considered reasonable by the majority of the folks in our society. That's why it's different in the SEC. Maybe that's why we're able to be more active in what we do. Because no one ever looks at the car or the jewelry and says, 'How did you get that, poor football player?' They say, 'How did they get you that and not get caught, poor football player?'"

There might not be a cultural mandate, but describing an October Saturday in the South as a culture accepting of this behavior would be a raging understatement.

"It's 2014. Who's left to tell that would get angry? Who's left that would object to seeing these kids getting some money?"

Not sure how much of this goes on at OSU (I wonder about Clarett and Pryor though), but if this is commonplace at SEC schools, even for seldom used players, it's another advantage for those southern schools, probably including FSU, Miami, etc. With oversigning, dumping players, lesser academic ratings of these schools, and ESPN promoting them as the best teams, it's another reason for other schools and conferences to form their own division without these schools, thereby excluding them from the NC playoff.

Comment 11 Apr 2014

Kids 7-14 that idolize the Buckeyes should be free or $1.  That's fan-base building.

OSU could sell OSU gear at the game to earn money.  Don't they make $ on refreshments and too?