Competing at the same level if not better in the SEC as Big 12 - you are making my argument for me.
The point that is being made that nearly everyone said Missouri and Tamu would take years to be able to play at the "SEC" level of football. From 1996 to 2010 MZ only played in two Big 12 championship games and got crushed both times. Tamu only played in one and got crushed too. Both teams averaged 3rd in the respective division and worse, obviously, overall. In three years MZ has won the SEC East twice, and Tamu has competed. So if you believe everything, a "yearly competitor" in the Big 12 would still stand no chance in the almighty SEC.
Forde on Tamu, "His team isn't ready to compete in the SEC, and his saintly fan base isn't ready either." - ESPN Sept 2011
School rank overall in Big 12
'96 '97 '98 '99 '00 '01 '02 '03 '04 '05 '06 '07 '08‡ '09 '10 '11†
Missouri 7th 5th 5 11 10 9 10 6 9 7 5 2 5 6 4 5
Texas A&M 6th 3 th 1 4 6 5 9 10 4 9 4 6 11 8 5 7
I get the SEC has been a great conference over the past few years. What I do not understand is how do two average Big 12 schools come into the toughest conference and compete on a higher level than they did in the Big 12. Then you have one of the highest competing Big 12 schools come to the horrible Big 10 and are a middle of the pack team. Thoughts?
I never get this - Why would you say something that makes your team look even weaker. "That team we got crushed by is not that good and is going to lose."
Forgot about the science aspect.
That was a nice speech - thought he might thank the Silver Bullets for spreading the vote a little more.
How did Winston with his stats get 6th
I did like the way Kirk Herbstreit spoke up about the PI the 3rd and 1 and said had there been instant replay the blown call on the 3rd and 1 would have been overturned and the game would have been over.
He could just shrug that one off... Well they both could..
Honestly - if i was an assistant coach at OSU - I would be a
little angry when i hear those figures thrown around. RESPECT - I think they have earned it.
This is not new news - it has long been known that a lot of the OSU coaches are making half or even less than many ssistant coaches in other college programs It is only a money issue up to a point. Eventually, some want to be the top dog, and money is not all that matters Yes, it may keep some a little longer, but in the end the coaches you want leading your team want their own team.
I do not know but the fans or lack there of that showed up to the game was sad. Maybe that played a factor... We had a couple around us but it was probably 80% OSU and 15% Wisconsin - the other 5% were other Big 10 fans that thought their teams would make it.
Made the same bet with a guy from my office he did not look as scary in OSU gear
thought some make like it too. My wife is not a big sports fan - but Gone with the Wind is up there.
Can this day get any better..... Arrive at 3 tomorrow - Found out having a little girl and wife (i have little say) has chosen the name Scarlett.
May need to take a look at what Western Ill. did where Gordon averaged only 2.2 yards per carry on 17 carries an 0 TD Receiving only 38 and one TD
I remember last year about this time we needed help and got it. However, will not matter again this year if OSU does not win the last three games. As many have stated, "just win." Only then we can make it a tough decision on the committee. The more tough decisions and angrier people get the faster they will move to an eight team playoff.
A lot of premature frustration here -
I know this horse has been beaten and all that remains is glue. Earlier in the season Miss. State's wins looked better but now we see that Auburn, Texas A&M, LSU are not that good. However, if they win out they have a good chance of making the playoffs. As someone noted above - Win Out - so at least we can have somewhat of a valid argument if this does happen. If we lose not much to say.
If you were to equate this to a football game - it would be something like 75 -3 700 total yards to 45 - I could go on.
Smoke the last 4 teams. Then two more.
Could you summarize? My attention span is not that long.
Hoke's going to lose a finger