Except for Urban Meyer! I'm sure Urban Meyer was very well received on Buckeye internet forums when he was coaching at Florida!
I didn't get caught up too much in the hoop-la of recruiting commits and news that day. Don't get me wrong, It's nice to see that 3 top notch recruits commit to us, but 2016 and 2017 are pretty far away, and there's a lot of recruiting left to do. Like Urban says, "it shows us that we are in their top 3". Keep in mind it's one of those "emotional" days where recruits can get caught in the moment and commit earlier than they are perhaps ready too.
I don't buy too much into Damarkus Lodge's comments "the winner" is now in his top 5 for now. It could just be something he said in the moment. Lord knows, I said some comments that I meant in even half/complete jest when I was in high school. I'm sure we would gladly take his commitment if he wanted to come here, but make the best decision for yourself, and not just the outcome of 1 game.
Kind of wondered how good he could have been here in college if it wasn't for a poor QB coach and some very bad offensive lines.
I just want to give a tip of the hat to Curtis Grant. Of course we all know he came in as 5 star LB recruit that was projected to be an All American under Tressel. He had to endure many transfer rumors, the 6-7 season, 2 coaching changes, and even the loss of his father. However, none of these circumstances broke him.
Curtis- You might not have become an All American, but I'm sure myself and many other Buckeye fans will not forget your contributions to this great university. I have no doubt that you continued to work as hard as you could to reach your potential, through many difficult circumstances. There were no worries about academic uncertainty's, off the field problems, negative/cancerous attitude. You eventually became a starter at MLB, a team Captain, and even mentored Raekwon from the start. I'm happy to see you come out on top as a Champion.
I'll be honest, all 3 QB's returning scares me a bit.
Possible dissension My alma mater went through a similar circumstance with 2 players, it divided the team ever so slightly (players started taking sides). One had won state as a QB with some extreme athletic ability, the other was a slightly younger player that had more long-term potential at the QB position as a pass pro guy with some mobility at that level. In the end, the team never really clicked, we lost early in the playoffs to another powerhouse program. BTW, that younger player is currently an NFL QB.
I also take into account the Stanley Jackson/Joe Germaine situation per the documentary on the Big Ten Network.
It depends on the situation to be honest. If your a first round QB on a bad team, yea you don't have much time to develop, your starting early on, ready or not. But, I went to high school with a guy that was taken in the 3rd day by the Ravens and is able to suit up on gamedays and be a practice squad QB in his rookie year. I would hope that the team that probably drafts him in the later rounds would do that for him as well.
Good, we don't need him. He's only a 3 star prospect!
Chris Ash was an underwhelming hire and not well received by many here as well.
You know that stars don't matter, but you "hate" seeing us take a bunch of 3 and low 4 star players. Imagine how much better this team would be if we would have never allowed the following 3 star players to be apart of this team.. Jacoby Boren, Pat Elflein, Darron Lee, Cardale Jones, or Tyvis Powell.
Seen that Diesel was projected as a high second round pick, possible 1st according to a retweet from Brandon Castel from a scouting service. If he's projected that high, I could very well see him leaving.
Burrow? I don't pay near as much attention into recruiting as most people, but he'd be about the last person in this class that I'd expect to take late visits. Committed in May, never heard a peep about him looking elsewhere/keeping recruitment open, none of these "lists".
Not too particularly surprised to hear Gibson would take late visits considering this past summer. It's fine with me if he wants to take late visits, he's got to make the best decision for himself in the end. Hope he stays with the Buckeyes, but we'll be fine either way.
I think recruiting is important, but I'm not one of those to worry about a 4/5 star recruit choosing to go elsewhere. There's much more to a player being successful than whether he was a 5 star or a 3 star player in high school, such as location, positional coaching, team's style, support system, depth chart, commitment. Obviously, you want the 5 star player such as Raekwon McMillan, Vonn Bell, Joey Bosa's that pass all the requirements. But, you have to take a chance on the 3 star players such as Darron Lee, Pat Elflein, Tyvis Powell.
Just last November I seen a top 40 ranked player in the country being recruited heavily from Alabama, Auburn, and Ohio State proceed to get just plain abused from players that won't even be going D3 to play college. When he was at d-end, team ran right at him with no double teams, exploiting him. On offense, gave up multiple pressures/sacks to a player that just wanted it more. Eventually took himself out of the game completely when his team went down 14, sat the helmet down on sideline and stood 25 yards away from his other teammates and just watched while other teammates played both ways when they went down 28-35 points in a state semi-finals game. Give me the lowly rated three star player
I thought EZE would be good, but getting close to breaking Eddie's and Keith's records on 60 less carries, impressive.
And to think people didn't believe he was capable of being a #1 RB and could only be a spot duty player during the summer lol.
I believe we are showing some recognition for the work that Tressel did in past recruiting classes. The threat doesn't appear to be dissing Urban Meyer by any means. You can't deny that Tressel/Fickell regime had some key players out there during the Sugar Bowl. I'll give ya that Bell and McMillan probably wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Urban. But, to say we "probably wouldn't have" Bosa or Apple I think is going a bit too far. Apple grew up a huge Ohio State fan, and attended camps at OSU since the 7th grade, most notably having his picture taken with Tressel. We had a good chance with Apple anyways. I'm not too familiar with Bosa, but I imagine we still have a fighting chance landing Bosa even without Meyer.
It's not like Tressel couldn't recruit players either. Tressel landed some very key talents from out of state as well. We might not have Bell, but we probably still have Jeremy Cash, who turned into a fine player.
I will give you that the "staff and player development" is as good as it gets under Urban Meyer. No disagreements here. Warriner's work with the offensive line has been a very key difference from when he came here, the WR corp has came a long way as well.
I'm not going to speculate into whether Braxton transfers.. But, I imagine this season could honestly be really difficult for Braxton to handle.. Put yourselves in his shoes.. Could you imagine the hype going into your senior year as a Heisman Candidate QB at Ohio State with the expectations of making the CFB Playoffs and competing for a National Title (pretty much, every young Ohio boy's dream). Two weeks before the start of the season, you re-injure your shoulder-Need to undergo season ending shoulder surgery, and rehab once again. Your backup- J.T. Barrett ends up as a top Heisman candidate and leads them to the Big 10 Championship Game where the 3rd stringer Cardale Jones wins 2 games and your team's in the National Championship. Now, some Buckeye fans are all ready for you to be out the door for Barrett and Jones for various reasons. I don't know about you, but I know I would be a happy for your brothers/team, but there would DEFINITELY be a part of me that's slightly jealous/pissed off that you can't be there playing.
They were almost bowl eligible this year, just needed one more win. Michigan already has some talent there, just need to get some quality coaches. If I'm Harbaugh I'm on the lookout for a Juco, Transfer, or under-recruited QB for this recruiting cycle and go big time hunting next year.
I don't think Michigan's cupboard is completely empty. At RB they have Ty Isaac and Derrick Green. I imagine Harbaugh comes in and tries to flip Mike Weber from us as well. At WR, they were able to land Drake Harris last year. This year they have Brian Cole committed to them, and I highly doubt he is flipping now. According to recruiting rankings, they were able to land some good O lineman over the last couple years. Maybe, all they need is a new O-line coach, much like Warriner here.
If you can't understand why he was a loved and revered player at Ohio State, I'm questioning whether you remember or even watched Ohio State basketball over the last couple of years. If you don't like him, that's fine.. But, it's pretty obvious why he is beloved.
For one he studied PRE-MED with aspirations of further study while playing here. One of those activities would be too difficult for a high majority of college students, let alone being highly successful at both.
Secondly, I've never seen a player play with such heart on the court. He wouldn't just dive on the ground for a loose ball, he would fly over tables to try to save a loose ball. His on ball pressure is a work of art. 2 time Big Ten defensive player of the year, 4 time Big Ten all defensive team. Holds Ohio State's career assist and steal records. He had 5 games in his Ohio State career where he racked up at least 6 steals. Recorded 98 steals in 2012 according to Wikipedia.
Third, His buzzer beating game winning 3 point shot against Iowa State in the 2013 NCAA Tournament.
No, he was not the greatest shooter during his time here.. However, LaQuinton Ross was MIA last year after Deshaun Thomas left for the NBA, then was even ejected against Northwestern, I believe. Nobody on last year's team was good at shooting the ball. It's not like Shannon Scott was knocking down shots left and right either when Craft was here.
How does this kid plan in majoring in Astronomy and hoping to work for NASA after football while playing football at Ohio State, Kentucky, Alabama? Best of luck to him, Lord knows I wouldn't want to attempt that major with major collegiate football. That sounds like two full time jobs. I'd be majoring in "general studies" making sure to get the easiest professors if I had a full ride to play collegiate football
Let's also keep in mind all of the passing struggles we had in spring camp. It's not like JT started the year automatically as a "Heisman candidate QB". It took some time for JT to develop, and he had some mediocre games to begin the year with. Granted, we now have an offensive line that has developed.
We really don't know what we have in Cardale. He could come in clicking from all cylinders like some backup QB's do, or the nerves could get to him to start the game and he has a bad half, which puts us in trouble.
However, I think the game ultimately comes down to our questionable run defense, whether they can get off the field by making key stops on 1st and 3rd down. It's easier to come back with an offense like ours, but I hate putting ourselves in a poor position against run heavy teams that can wear down the clock and our thin defensive line rotation.
Just seen Sammons play this past weekend. He's got some work to do.
The OHSAA insists on playing pretty much all games on turf fields and bigger stadiums now days, especially Week 14 games. Shoot, my DIV high school would travel to Dayton Flyer's football stadium for Week 12-13 games in highschool and completely fill it up, so they also have to consider stadium capacity. Stadiums can be used both days if the host sites are willing, and the OHSAA are struggling to find host sites for many reasons. Just last week, they actually used a site twice in the same day, and forced us to drive 110 miles while the other school drove 30 miles, due to struggles. I see where you are coming from but your asking the OHSAA to find 14 different equal-distant, large capacity, and WILLING sites that are able to handle parking, concessions, find volunteers, have adequate restrooms, with nice locker-rooms for a big time Week 14 playoff high school playoff game. Trust me, there are some very poorly ran stadiums, that the OHSAA and some high schools like to avoid at ALL COSTS. Best of luck in finding those 14 sites. It's much easier said than done.
My dad kind of raised me as a Tennessee fan, so I'll answer from my perspective if I was to be recruited by them. Our highschool paid a little homage to them in decorating our endzones in orange/white checkers for past playoff games when I was a kid, we had similar colors. Like "Rocky Top" That stuck in my head growing up.
Love the Knoxville/Smoky Mountain area, Doesn't get as brutal cold there. Never been to Nebraska or Wisconsin, but I Imagine it's funner and not as boring there. It's definitely better than Indiana. I've always had a liking for Southern Tennessee women for some reason. Did, I mention it doesn't seem as cold?
You play in the SEC for a team that people believe is on the up and up. New head coach that's considered a good recruiter, play for a team, I kind of rooted for growing up. I'll be completely honest- If I had offers from Big 10 schools like Purdue, Indiana, Nebraska, Penn State, Illini, Northwestern or Big 12 schools like Kansas, Kansas State. Good bye, I'm leaving. I'd rather play in a up and coming SEC school, than a boring, mediocre or bad Big 10 school.
Granted, an Ohio State offer and playing in the Horseshoe would change my mind in less than a second.
You bring up a good point there..
Imagine just how good Ohio State would have been had we just cut Aaron Craft, or never let him into Ohio State. Those final four and Elite eight appearance are probably national titles. We should go ahead and fire Thad Matta for this decision as well.
I'll admit, I'm an Aaron Craft fan. It will pain me to not see Aaron Craft in a buckeye uniform this year. His defense, motor on the court, work ethic, and willingness to dive after loose ball's to give us extra possessions was top notch. Yes, he had his offensive liabilities in shooting the basketball, but it's not like he was the only player on last year's team with that problem. It probably would have helped if we had another shooter on the team last year to help him out To insist, that we are a better team simply because "we got rid of him" is ridiculous in my beliefs. It seems to me, your also basically asking "Is Ohio State a better team had we never signed him?". Do the teams advance further in the tournament or are better his freshman to junior years if just he himself isn't on the team, I highly doubt so.
If Ohio State is better this season, you can't just say.. It's because Craft is gone. Thad Matta also brought in a top recruiting class with a dynamic scorer in it, on top of a senior led class.
How does Steubenville even let this kid back on the team or in the school system? I get winning's important there, but come on..