He should probably have proven more at this level before chasing money. This is becoming a trend now. Too many guys are declaring far too early and its compromising their careers. So many never make it. I'm sorry but you won't be able to convince a lot of pro scouts and coaches that a redshirt sophomore WR with less than 1,000 career receiving yards deserves to be drafted. He hasn't proven enough to be a draftable player. He didn't play football for free either. He went to school for free because he played football.
Or Alabama is just having a down draft year? We went through a spell for a few years where we weren't getting a bunch of guys in. Alabama produces good NFL players. If the spread is so prevalent in the NFL, then why does the NFL spend so much time scouting and figuring out which spread players can make the adjustment to pro style football? Paxton Lynch will be a very good QB someday, but Denver took him knowing he won't be counted on to carry the team day 1. He's never ran a huddle, 5 or 7 step drops... nope. Guy has the tools to be great, but will essentially need de-programed of dumbed down simple 2 read college spread offenses.Spread offenses also simplify everything for WR's so they can run tempo. The reason for elite talented college receivers failing in the NFL has nothing to do with speed or athleticism. It usually is because they haven't ever had to make adjustments on the fly with the play clock expiring and be relied on to make the right decision on reading a coverage, or who to block.
Seriously can we get him to wear #45 in honor of Archie. How awesome would that be. Break the boring 20's trend. Unique talent, get him in that rare RB number.
My dad said football is turning into a sissy sport, and to get off his lawn!
Can't believe they passed on Treadwell and Fuller. Both I think are better receivers I think. Coleman is solid, but I can't help but compare him to other Air Raid guys like Crabtree and Blackmon who have went on to be average talents albeit Crabtree had an excellent season finally.
I'm not so sold on Paxton Lynch. I think moving to 15 was a great move and based on that spot I'm guessing they are planning on taking a WR. Hopefully Treadwell, not sure about Doctson or Coleman. I like Will Fuller at 15. Maybe we get another WR in the 2nd or 3rd. Tyler Boyd in the 2nd or 3rd round would be nice.
Tunsil doing bong hits through a gas mask.... Here we go Brownies here we go!!!
3 for sure tonight. Goff, Wentz, Lynch. The question will be does anyone pull the trigger and move up and start the wave of guys that will likely go early in the 2nd. Hopefully the Browns can get either Cardale or Sudfeld in the 4th to supplement RGknee.
The 2006 draft produced a ton of long tenured NFL careers. Hardly any complete whiffs in the 1st round. Ernie Sims, Kameron Wimbley, and Tye Hill are the only guys I would say didn't really do much of anything. I remember wishing the Browns had taken either Tamba Hali or Mathias Kiwanuka at the time. 26 pro bowlers in the first 2 rounds, over 40 in that draft. 6 out of 15 of the players that made it as undrafted went on to make pro bowls! Tons of notable players that are still starters in the league from that draft.
To be fair Conklin was a complete unknown coming into MSU and will leave a 1st round pick which sort of sums up everything. MSU finds and develops great players, we recruit more great players than they do so we have more depth. MSU may lack in star recruits, but make no mistake they do as good of a job as anyone in College Football at getting the most out of the average 3 star caliber kids. Dino knows how to develop talent. Come this fall when we meet Sparty there will be a bunch of new faces on the field, but I expect much of the same. Close gritty hard hitting games. I do think J.T. Barrett returning will be a huge advantage for us though.
Do you think Chip Kelly will get fried for taking an Oregon guy? No Nkemdiche in the 1st... I have to disagree. I think despite his flaws he is a top 10 talent. Someone will roll the dice late in the round based on his potential.
Posluszny, Arrington, Conner, Bowman, maybe Brandon Short.... I guess he would be the Carpenter to Arrington being Hawk. They have a few others from decades past like Conlan and Jack Ham. Maybe they count Matt Millen and Tamba Hali despite those two being defensive lineman at Penn State.
Katzenmoyer and Diggs
Hawk, Carpenter and Schlegel
Laurinaitis and Freeman
As far as all time greats from the past forget it. Spielman, Gradishar I could go on here for a while.
Yep. The Browns as sad as it is would be best served to stick with an average veteran QB and built a rock solid roster around him. Eventually get your guy when that time comes, but build a roster that can compete, and that a decent QB can have success with. The scratch off lottery ticket mentality has to go. I also believe it is getting much harder for the NFL to find conventional drop back and play actiom passers. The spread offenses have leveled the playing field from a talent gap perspective, but its come at the cost of dumbing down and simplifying QB play. The NFL in a nutshell is about being able to run play action, be able to turn your back to a defense, turn back around and make a split second decision on where coverage is before you even think about making a close to perfect throw. I hate to say it but I think the Alabama/Michigan/MSU and likes will be where many of the future pro QB's come from based on scheme.
It says a hell of a lot about Jordan getting those types of reps/compliments from our coaches. If he starts as a true freshman... wow. I wouldn't be worried about our other guys, but just impresses with Jordan as a talent. I think Mack has a real shot to be special, he and Gibson will be a nasty tandem for a few years.
Like the Patriots, only we never win.
I don't get it with Goff either. Usually guys with great talent like that make everyone around them better and they have better teams. Cal never did shit with him at his best. I don't understand the fascination with him either. Solid QB talent, but the comparisons to Aaron Rodgers are laughable. When Rodgers was at Cal they gave USC a run for their money in 04. Having Marshawn Lynch didn't hurt, but Rodgers made that team better. Watch that USC-Cal game in 04. Rodgers was unreal. Goff hasn't done anything comparable.
Yea, but between Bradford and the deal they gave Daniel, not having a LT to protect the QB would be foolish. Many project Tunsil is a multi year pro-bowl type of LT. I'd say if you knew you had that locked in for over a decade you give up those picks every time.
Well the Browns have made great draft trades before, but they manage to screw it up. It a move the Eagles needed to make whether they go QB or LT. At this point the Browns would be foolish to draft a QB at 8. It is a good trade for the Browns for the simple reason they just need more. Hopefully Philly is a mess this season and that is a high 1st rounder next year. I would have been fine with Wentz, but this move makes sense. Get a great player at 8, roll the dice this season with McCown and RGIII. The Browns can't be fixed overnight and taking a QB in the first round every year has proven to be a shit strategy. WR is a huge concern so Treadwell is a possibility, but if Bosa or Ramsey somehow slip to us at 8 we have to take them. There will be a few QB's in later rounds we might be able to grab. I like Sudfeld and think he is being overlooked. I just think with Gordon's future uncertain and no other legit threats outside we will struggle regardless of whom is QB.