I want to add my own "Thanks for sharing" as well. I'm glad it seems to have worked out in the long run but that was a rough path to walk. I only have the one upvote.
In the current zeitgeist if you question a woman accusing a man of harming her it will be labeled as victim-blaming. This is particularly the case with sexual assault and rape claims. Suggesting women bear some responsibility for their safety will also be labeled as "victim-blaming." We have chivalry and equality now.
I think your foot is lodged in there pretty good. Would there be room to put in words too?
I believe the technical term is multi-tasking. It was included in my job description.
I'm just going to throw this out there. Did anyone watch the season premiere of "Mr. Robot" last week?
The order of protection was not granted according to this: http://dehayf5mhw1h7.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/470/2016/07/19013937/201607191438.pdf
A full hearing on the matter has been granted.
Dunn doesn't have four people saying he didn't do anything and the story of the incident is the same story of his getting kicked off the team. I'm sure it'd be different if the headline here were "Elliott cut from Cowboys after altercation with girlfriend." Zeke gets more benefit because he hasn't already been found guilty.
They get to convict the high profile person in the court of public opinion from behind a cloak of anonymity.
Well in this case Zeke has witnesses on his side and Dunn has the audio of an upset woman claiming he hurt her on his.
So this girl publicly accuses a public figure and posts pictures to a public forum and gets to remain anonymous? Am I the only one that doesn't think that's right?
I'll give management the benefit of the doubt but this dude was not impressive in his games with France this summer.
I disagree and so it seems does the poster I replied to. "Never an excuse to hit a woman" is meant to shut down the discussion. It is as Burr says in that video above, "Ass-kickings don't fall from the sky." The phrase is spoken to avoid examining female culpability in these situations.
There can be equality or chivalry.
Unfortunately I only have one upvote for this.
Speaking of the order of protection can that be posted to this story? It is a matter of public record as well isn't it?
The speed of Dunn's dismissal tells me only that Coach Meyer is terrified of being painted as "soft" on violence towards women.
It is the only way these things can be handled now. Coach Meyer has to rush to judgement and be seen as being tough on wrong-doing and looking out for the women-folk lest he be on the end of a rush to judgement.
Any hesitation in throwing a man accused by a woman down the memory-hole will not be tolerated. Any hint of not taking her word at face value will not be tolerated. Any suggestion that the safety of women is not wholly and entirely the burden of men in any and all circumstances will not be tolerated.
Please note that I do not think any of that is what should be. It is simply my perception of the way it is.
Well, there's the "smoking-gun."
I just copied from the initial story on the dismissal comment thread. I can make no claims to its authenticity.
What if she's coming at you with a kitchen knife?
The story above says that an order was issued against Dunn. This link: http://dehayf5mhw1h7.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/470/2016/07/19013937/201607191438.pdf says that the request for an order was denied. Is there a link to a similar document showing that an order was in fact issued? Has "due diligence" been put forth on this matter? The linked story says "filed a protection order." The courts "file" orders. Persons "file for" or "request" such orders.
The story quotes a 911 dispatcher. It is evidence that the as yet unnamed woman called 911 and told a story. It is not evidence of wrong-doing on the part of Dunn. At this point what do we have except this unnamed woman's word?
I read once that a woman answered that question with, "For the moment after he loses control and before the fist lands in my face."
What if she's coming at you with a kitchen knife?
I was using hyperbole. It takes comparatively little from a woman for the damage it can do to a man.
And my understanding with various protection orders is that judges simply issue them "just in case" and to cover themselves. No one wants to be the judge who declined an order only to have the woman requesting it end up hurt. That she got one (without knowing the whole story) is only evidence that she convinced the judge he did something.
Thanks for the link. I looked at the games for the first day of the 1940 season (April 16th.) Two game in at around 2-1/2 hours. Bunch of them right around the 2 hour mark. The Reds though got it done in a hurry. A mere one 1:33. A fourteen hit game that took an hour and a half.
The fastest game for April 16th, 2015 was 2:16. No other game was less than 3 hours.
Cool stats site, thanks again.
Do I? I was taught not to hit girls. All the men I know were taught not to hit girls. I was raised to protect and look after my equals who were incapable of standing up for themselves. I see the hell that rains down on men who are accused of hurting women. I see a society that reflexively sides with a woman who claims a man was violent with her. And I remember the most terrifying thing I ever heard a little girl utter as she behaved abominably to her brother, "You can't hit me cause I'm a girl."
So maybe I do have a whacked perspective.
Large epidemiological studies have demonstrated that domestic violence is most commonly reciprocal and that when only one partner is violent there is an excess of violent women.
He is boxed in. Dismiss/suspend first find out the truth later is the box.