In a CBS article, they suggested it would be a mere minor/secondary violation if he didn't take anything to do this. I don't believe anything I read from journalists today, but that makes sense to me. I thought it was the profiting from your likeness that was the problem? If it isn't, I don't see the difference between this and taking a photograph with a fan an autographing it (as said fan might turn around and frame this and sell it for a profit on ebay). What am I missing here?
@ BroJIm: Well, here's to hoping you don't work in the OSU compliance department. That is some seriously bad advice.
Saying all the right things. I love that complacency is addressed seemingly on a daily basis. A blue print has been put in place and the right guy is there to execute it.
I like the last thing you said, and I have been saying this for years: regardless of what some of us think of the NFL, they have perfected the model. With 3 years of football for most kids, they have invested the training that makes those kids ready for the next level. With this 1 and done model in basketball, too many kids see dollar signs and leave before they are ready. Couple this with small NBA rosters and a poor developmental league (D league is a joke) has resulted in a bunch of high upside kids not being developed at the next level and eventually washing out or becoming role players. The NBA thrives on stars, and their very model is precisely what is limiting the development of them, ruining the college game in the process. One of several reasons I hate the Association.
He has enough talent that he will make a roster and play probably from the start, considering the team he would likely go to. I don't see him ever on a D league roster. Can't remember the last time I saw someone with his vision/passing skills/ Jason Kidd maybe (and Russell is a better shooter than Kidd IMO)?
One has to wonder if the terrible final game (not really his fault) will fuel the competitor in him to come back for one more year, especially with the class coming in (and I imagine Ohio State would purchase insurance for him). For me, though, I think the chances of this are very small. College is a tool that helps you make more money in the future--if he is about to get a job earning $ 3 mill a year, I'd say it has done that for him already. I can't imagine he passes this up and comes back, but stranger things have happened. Either way, good luck to you Patient O, in whatever you choose to do, and thank you for giving us a year to watch you play ball, it was a pure pleasure.
I guess I lied, I do have a problem with one other part of your post:
2. I have seen hours of film on Gibson and his future is at WR. Why would you sit a 6'-4" freak athlete with 4.3 speed and an underdeveloped throwing arm on the bench because we have more QB talent then many conferences have combined, when what we really will need is more deep threat receivers.
First of all, we have a bunch of deep threats already possibly on the roster. I expect the kid from Indiana to fill that role (Mclaurin) but I guess we will have to see. Second, people make it sound like it is so easy to take a kid who played QB and stick him at receiver while he is making the jump to the next level just because he is such a good athlete. I don't know about that. Finally, all, that QB depth you speak of might take a huge hit after this year when I expect both Miller and Jones to be gone. That only requires TG to redshirt one year, which I already think is a foregone conclusion. Once that happens, I don't see all that depth that you are talking about (but rather a bunch of untapped, unproven potential).
Just my thoughts man, no worries. I like talking Ohio State football. It is a pleasant problem to have, that is for sure.
Thank you for the detailed response, I appreciate it. I obviously wasn't present for ANY of the recruiting pitches,but the stuff I read suggested that TG eliminated teams that recruited him for WR early. He wants to be a QB, and I am willing to bet UFM will give him a fair shake to win the job. I also think if it got out that UFM recruited him at QB but really never intended to give him a fair shot, that could hurt potential recruiting down the road. And what is the downside to letting him compete for the position in the first place? That is the part of your response I don't get.
The rest of your post, I don't even disagree with. Burrow looks like a future stud. Gibson has some throwing mechanics issues. But so much goes into it--dedication, hard work, injuries to name but a few. If I had a dollar for every can't miss kid (that missed) or every two star kid that ended up an All American, well, I could get me some OSU tickets next season. I just think it is silly barely a few weeks into spring practice to just assume the 6th rated (and a five star recruit on one service) already needs to be moved to receiver. Why must we rush to judgment on everything (since as you say, it is March 10)?
Posts like this crack me up (and chances are you haven't even thought about what I am about to write). So, about 1 week into spring practice you have enough information to determine already that Gibson needs to move to WR, huh? Based on what, the conversation from internet savants that have decided he can't cut it at QB? Are you aware that Meyer recruited him as a QB (and you can assume he was at least promised an opportunity to compete for the starting job)? Why are you sold on Burrow to the point that you will just hand him the job? Was it one 3 minute highlight video against mid-level high school competition that sealed the deal for you? Do you not even understand Urban Meyer's competition model (which amongst other things, has produced 3 titles)? I am really curious why you are so convinced of this one week into spring practice. Please enlighten me...
This is spot on for the most part. Only thing I would add, is that recruiting has really started earlier in the last few years, meaning a lot of relationships are 2-3 years out. So even for this class, and I know everyone is technically not committed, it will still be a bit of a "flip" situation for Harbaugh in that some schools have been talking to these kids for 24 months or more. His first clean class really is 2017. If he does exceptionally well in this class, he will have demonstrated can flip at least some kids IMHO. I would think a class around # 10 (which is very good) is the upper ceiling, with a class likely around # 15. Should be interesting.
You are correct. That's what you get when you have a tournament and invite the 68 "best" teams in (probably about 50 teams have not earned the right to be there). In a one game single elimination tournament that could come down to one or two possessions, you have to win six games. Don't get me wrong, that tournament is exciting as hell, but it's a terrible way to crown a champion and damn hard to get through.
Thank you championship guy*
* for championship guy, it's all about the championship. Nothing else really matters.
He specifically said there are exceptions to the rule. You then try and point out the possible problem with his post by throwing out a handful of names?
Yeah, I agree with this. I think I am in the minority here, but while I wish OSU players well when they reach the NBA, it isn't much more than that (since I don't like the NBA and don't follow it). For the elite kids, I am sure this is a big deal (turning college players into pros). For the fans, it's about OSU winning basketball games first and foremost, and by a large margin.
Did you miss the part about 6 Sweet Sixteen appearances? It's not like Matta is getting fat on weak OOC, swept into the tournament on this and his reputation, then getting ousted in the first or second round every year.
Sigh. Not the coach of the year snub again. I thought we worked this out: Ohio State awards include things like Conference Winner, National Titles, that sort of thing. Other teams get the Kirk Ferentz Consolation prize. Which would you rather have?
Who is John Gruden?
I wouldn't count Gibson out at QB just yet. He is the prototypical Meyer system QB, and if you believe some stuff that is circulating out there, Meyer spent more time recruiting Gibson than any other recruit (at least at the end) and basically begged him not to leave. Competition is good, am I right?
Way to early too make this call (they aren't even enrolled yet I don't believe). Under Meyer, it is earned on the field/practice, not in stars awarded or h.s. game films. How about we just see how this plays out?
So excited for this kid's future. Hope he puts in the work because he looks like the real deal on film. The battle with Gibson is going to be Epic.
You are talking to "fire somebody" guy. They could go undefeated, get all the way to the final game in the tournament, lose on a last second shot, and he still isn't going to be happy. And further conversation with him is just a waste of valuable seconds.
So this. I let some "fire Matta" guys over at cleveland.com yesterday have it. I am not pleased with recent developments, but this idea of just fire someone without any idea as to how we can upgrade annoys the shit out of me. Oh, and let's not forget where the program was when Matta got here and what he has accomplished, as if that is all washed away by one semi disappointing season (we will still win 20+ and almost certainly will make the tournament).
Some people confuse activity for accomplishment.
Dude has the best ticket in the arena from which to watch the action. Unbelievable.
Look at his arms too, he looks very strong. I don't understand this. His lack of hustle and his soft play are really hard to watch. I am torn when the basketbuckets are on--it is a pure joy to watch Patient O play, but when Amir get's involved in the play, i have to avert my eyes. I know he is just a student and a kid, but I cannot wait until he is gone. It's one thing that unrealistic expectations were put on him, that wasn't his doing. Loafing around the court and shying away from contact, IS on him.
This is my particular frustration with what I am seeing with this team--Matta has built good teams with aggressive man to man defense. The core of this team is still seniors who have 2-3 years in this system. This year, based off a few months of practice, he goes away from this and puts in a zone? Who does he think he is, Jim Boehiem? Too cute by half. This team is not a good rebounding team, and I think this problem is magnified by a 2-3 zone which makes it harder to rebound. I would love to see what others think on this--obviously I know a fraction of what Matta knows about basketball and I don't know his players as well as he does, but I heard one B1G Ten Network announcer early in the year with some credibility lay into him for that, and it makes sense to me.