I think "athleticism" is NBA scout shorthand for "isn't going to win any slam dunk contests." Sam Thompson has that level of athleticism but I don't think he makes an NBA roster. I'll take D'Angelo's prospects over more athletic guys from the past like Harold Miner, Nate Robinson and Zach LaVine.
LOL @IslandBumBuckeye beat me to it. I couldn't tell if it was comic genius or not that DJ follows up his grammar take with ... more bad grammar ("How does a man roughly 52 years my senior remember grade school better than ME?") . It's very funny either way.
AJ, you've had a good run and a good career. Sign a one-year contract somewhere warm and get your 10-year NFL pension and preserve what's left of your physical health.
I don't think he actually removes them from the team, I think he has "The Talk" with them - often with the parents too. I think the Talk goes something like this, "You've been with the program x number of years, we feel like we've given you every opportunity to succeed but I have to be honest with you, I don't see you taking playing time away from the other guys we have at your position. At this point, I'd like to talk to you about your options."
I think the options are to stay and take up a roster spot for a coach that doesn't believe you can play (and some guys opt for that: Rod Smith, Cardale Jones), or let me help you find a MAC or FCS program where you will have a better opportunity, or maybe you stay in school an focus on getting your degree - because if you can't make the two-deep at Ohio State, you're not going to play in the NFL, let's be honest. "We can release a statement that its injury-related so you can stay a part of the team with your brothers and maybe we can find a way for you to help in other ways."
Frank the Tank has got it right. There's been any number of statistical study done on this. You're chances of being drafted, drafted in the first round, an All-Pro, etc. all are higher if you are a 5-star or 4-star compared to a 3-star or less. Of course, statistically there are always tons of exceptions. The smaller the sample size, the better your chance of thinking you found an anomaly. Most people forget to calculate that there number of 5-stars in any one year are very few compared to the thousands of three stars that are awarded.
Hey Jeremy -- considering the wealth of offensive linemen we have on tap for this year and next (and next?) combined with the serious (critical?) lack of defensive tackles, which of those OL commits might be the best candidates to flip over to defense?
LOL - if you get a chance watch the safety come up and make a great play in the Kareem Walker video (0:16). I think the referee may actually have been a concrete statue. Pretty funny.
Wait. You mean to tell me that the dude that ran Coach Cooper out of town on the back of his 2001 Outback Bowl MVP performance thinks our program is worth a BILLION dollars?? Kudos to Ryan for moving up to assistant professor, btw. :P
I could care less about the other teams in the conference being good. I would mind, however, if Ohio State became content with having just enough talent to win the Big Ten. The BCS-era computer rankings and the playoff analysis has (falsely) made people think that conference strength is a real thing that needs to be attained --- hogwash. In the glory days of the Big Ten, it was the Big 2 and the Little 8. Some of the most dominant teams in history came from weak conferences -- Miami, Florida State, and many others.
Conference strength only matters if you have a less than dominant team hoping to squeeze into the play-off on the basis of analysis. Our goal should be to win every game and have the talent to where anyone with a brain looks at our team and say "wow, that's one of the best teams in the country regardless of conference".
This year we care because we are a year ahead of schedule and barely made it in but that doesn't mean we should expect that "barely made it" is what we want every year. Next year, with a healthy QB, experienced O-line and even more recruiting talent adding depth, we will see the 4th year of Urban Meyer-- closer to what we should expect every year -- and there should be no doubt about whether we are one of the best or not.
I also assume "all things being equal" -- I would vote for Braxton, as well. J.T. looked great at times but other times he seemed affected by the big moments (MSU game being the exception). Braxton seemed at his best in the clutch (MSU game being the exception) and I think his 3 years experience and athleticism would give him the edge over 12 games experience and better passing touch.
I would have loved to see Braxton with these weapons and another offseason of working on his passing reads and mechanics. I hope he doesn't transfer.
After last year, I am not assuming anything. That said, IF we win out, I think we are in over TCU/Baylor because we would add both a conference championship AND win over a ranked team. The five-thirty-eight simulation is simply based on predicting the final records and movement in the polls -- there's no way to know how much a conference championship game win will factor in the minds of the committee.
Watching Michigan State tonight -- they don't run a "Bear Zero" in that they don't cover the center and guards but they do bring 9 guys in the box and they do a good job disguising where the rush is going to come from. Nebraska's offensive line couldn't get anything going running the ball and threw a lot of passes that were just prayers.
I love the development made even since the VaTech game. Hopefully a bye week and a few easier opponents will help our units be ready in time for that game at East Lansing.
To be fair - the UC website and the dictionary do give the definition of a bearcat. If having the animal be native to the area were a requirement we'd be hard-pressed to justify most team names - Panthers, Tigers, Lions, Wildcats, Cougars, and Bobcats are rarely indigenous to those areas. Don't even get me started on Knights, Trojans, Spartans and ... elephants.
Not to mention "Cousineau" is a good Buckeye name!
Really curious about what Beanie is up to. Can't believe he didn't get another shot in the NFL. Is he healthy?
For many years a group of friends had a set fall Saturday schedule -- early morning football league we played in, hit the bar sponsor for breakfast and beer and then head over to the game if it was here or watch the game at the bar. Then, one of us decided to get married and his wife lost her mind and scheduled on the same day as a home game. What?!? We had all decided not to go but our "w.a.g.s" started a campaign of nagging us until we finally relented to get into tuxedos after our game and skip watching the Buckeye game.
As you might imagine, it all ended badly -- for them. Already fairly grumpy, we showed up at the reception - some fancy top floor restaurant - only to find out it was a cash bar. What!?! Some of the ... boys ... weren't about to pay $5 for a Bud Light so before you knew it they had brown-bagged it. One of them got caught by the restaurant manager and refused to give up his 40oz and a ruckus ensued. We all either got kicked out or left mad. Not sure what happened to the rest of the reception but I heard tears were involved. The only good news was we caught the 2nd half on TV!
Hopefully that will serve as an object lesson to all the best-intentioned brides and mom-in-laws out there - check the Buckeye schedule first thing!
I can't up-vote a man that let his wife bully him into that wedding date. But if you can get a Scarlett and a Grey - both - I may reconsider!
It seems Henton ended up back in Georgia - first at Georgia Southern - and then playing for Div. II Fort Valley State. Ironically, he was paired there with his even-more-highly-recruited high school teammate Chris Slaughter where they were first team all-conference and made the D-II playoffs in 2012. Henton completed 49% (?!?) of his passes his senior year for 2,604 yards and 20 touchdowns.
Both Henton and Slaughter had hopes of getting an invite to an NFL camp but from what I can tell neither did and Slaughter signed with the AFL Tampa Bay Storm.
If I was Braxton, I would have tweeted: "Call me if you when you get your first D-I offer and we'll race. Or better yet, when you get into your first D-I game."
To be honest - maybe since I'm not a reporter - I could care less about how much or how little a coach says about the state of the team. I know a lot of people are hanging on ever word to get any morsel of new information but I prefer to wait and see what we do on the field. We give a lot of credit to Urban for "saying it like it is" but a lot of that frankness is done in hindsight. He didn't tell us at the time when he thought we were a 6-6 team --- only later, when recalling the season. Both methods work for me as long as the teams on the field are as good as they have been (minus the Fickell year).
Finally - someone that agrees with me. I'll support whomever wins the job in practice but, personally, I thought Cardale's H.S. film was more more impressive and he brings two years more experience than J.T. I hear a lot about J.T.'s intangibles giving him the edge but I don't want to hand him the "heir apparent" title based on intangibles.
I give the author a little credit for at least trying to have some evidence to back his grades, but I give the overall article a 'D'. The author seems to be confused and distracted by statistics. He vacillates between 'per game' statistics and 'totals' to defend his grades, while almost completely discounting minutes played. The overall effect and conclusion is that it seems our bench was horrendous while the starters were good to very good. Anyone that actually watched this team play over the season knows this to be false.
Most of the gains credited to Williams and Ross are due to more minutes played. While I think the 'D' grade for ADV was closer to fair, I think the same arguments made against ADV could be applied to others that got better grades. Most importantly, the analysis should include and emphasize performance in the games that mattered most.
It's impossible to judge this team in isolation, without looking at the success of previous years. One could argue that this was a fairly average team that slightly overplayed its scoring abilities with moments of superior effort and desire. But you could just a fairly judge it by its high "potential", "talent" and "athleticism" and say a lot of guys did not or may not ever live up to the high expectations we (and everyone else) had for them coming out of high school.
That's awesome! I expect no less from a rivarly. Alright, Buckeyes -- you're up.
I would be equally hesitant to write off Cardale Jones. He's a fantastic athlete built to withstand some of the punishment that Braxton has experienced. His passing skills seem to be at least the equal of JT Barrett though JT may be the better runner.
Although I know everyone is impressed with JT's speech and leadership, it all comes down to decision-making. Who is going to be able to make the right reads on the option and who is going to make the right decisions in the pocket? I don't think we've seen enough yet to say JT is the lock for "heir apparent" and everything else seems just to be hearsay.
Personally, I'm rooting for Cardale to be like another overlooked QB from Glenville who came in NOT the heir apparent and did some pretty good things here once he got the chance. People forget that NO ONE liked Troy Smith compared to Justin Zwick when they started out either.
It's going to take a couple years to get the depth of talent we need to be consistently great. CJ Barnett (bless him) came in with an aggressive mentality but was writing checks his body physically couldn't cash. But he never had great awareness or cover skills.
I think the coaches need to A) start considering moving some of the stockpiling offensive talent to defense and B) re-evaluate the kind of kid we recruit in the defensive back seven. How many times did we hear Urban lament the lack of "home run hitters" on offense? Where are those guys on defense? Even Christian Bryant, for all his leadership, is no defensive All-American-- just the best (excluding Shazier) that we had. Don't get me started on Bradley Roby. He's been my favorite player the last couple years but this year I feel something was missing in his ... preparation.
I've got high hopes for Doran Grant and even Vonn Bell but they don't jump out at you like Bosa does, like Shazier does. Who else is a star in the making of the current LBs and DBs?
Instead of spending so much time deciding who is the next Percy Harvin, let's spend a little more time finding the next Ryan Shazier or Donte Whitner or Antoine Winfield.