As a student from 1968-1972 (yes, the five year plan) I had the absolute privilege of watching that team. Watching Rex hand the ball off to some of the most brutal ball carriers of the day, Jim Otis, John Brockington, Leo Hayden and, my favorite, Larry Zelina, is a far, far cry from the read spread of today. Please don't misconstrue my take. I relish in the very memory of Rex Kern and that team. But he was a different ball player in a different era. IMHO, they cannot be compared, except as true leaders and masters of their teams as you so aptly stated!
We know the reality and your summation is a stretch, but it is a wonderful thought. And it is legitimized by the ncaa.
I remember a qb that we have had some maturity, laziness and trust issues and found himself in UFM's doghouse. If Marcus Baugh turns out to be as good of a tight end as Cardale Jones is a qb, his world will spin in a greased groove.
I understand UFM's overall persona to the recruit, but I have been with Pantoni when he fielded phone calls from Coach Meyer asking his opinion or his advice on a certain recruit. I am not saying any of this just to say I know so-and-so. I am a nobody to this administration but I have read enough comments from UFM to know the importance he places on Pantoni.
Sorry, WB28 - To leave out Mark Pantoni leaves out recruiting which leaves out the raw talent that Mick forges into the player we see on the field. DJ hit that one out of the park.
GTH - How did you get involved with tOSU? Are you from this great state? And how did you come about identifying with this favorite historical Buckeye, Chic Harley? I never thought about it until this post of yours.
S/O to DJ... Any news on an 11W social at Blacksburg?
SO47A - enjoyed your take. The losses by the '69 and '70 teams, however still are the most bitter losses. To lose an NC to ttun just blows. And then follow it up the next year with a loss in the Rose Bowl to Stanford...Stanford!!!? They had a great qb, but our entire team would end up playing on Sundays. By then it was common speculation that Woody had forgotten how to coach in the big games. So when '73-4-5 rolled around the losses never were an absolute shock and kinda proved the point.
Anyway, the stroll down memory lane can sometimes rip off a scab or two.
Could the pain of LBJ's association with tOSU be getting to MJ?
Like the 2014 model, the '15 version needs gray, not black. The OSU color scheme is scarlet and gray. The U of Cincy is black and red. And I get it with the desire to attract recruits, sales, etc. with the change-up to black as an alternative, but this is the yearly addition. I own the '14's. I won't own the '15's.
The B1G should award Harbaugh B1G COY now and get it out of the way. He just may improve that team by a win or two and that seems to be one of two requirements. The other is to NOT be the coach of OSU.
Can't we just call this a draw. Mark May and Desmond Howard win the single entity vote because hatred can certainly allow for enough space for two.
And the sec and PSU cultists share the win for the group vote.
Can't speak for my brethren here on 11W but I certainly have enough dislike for the four of them to spread it around without watering it down.
Judging from his comments it's easy to see what Bama was telling and selling, and it certainly wasn't education or life after football! It's the league, Baby! The League! We're gonna get you ready and send you off to make millions of $$$.
By the time the ether wears off this young man's dreams will have vanished. And that's the shame in these matters.
Thanks for that memory. The thread was rather entertaining. " I was talking to Brandon the other day..." lmao!
Let's watch this young man's development over the next few years. For some reason tOSU staff slowed way down on their constant communication with him. Very uncharacteristic of their recruiting practices. I am wondering if they have not seen something that they are wary of and decided to back away from this commitment. Idk anything for sure but that's how it is done.
Agree with you, S862. I had met Woody several times and cannot imagine him coming down on the side of this story. I watched the game and that incident many times. I cannot for sure speak what was in his head at that moment but it seems that he simply got caught up in the passion of the game and the incident. Urban legend, folks.
Can't pick Biakabutuka over that POS Howard. Biakabutuka faded into bullshit obscurity as a pro then as a failed restaurateur. But Howard is front and center every football Saturday. And, of course, his Heisman pose alone is enough to push him to the forefront of OSU "enemy of the state"...imho.
I watched those teams, so47a, and you are absolutely correct. I never thought much about it but even people who were fans of the opposing teams never had bad things to say about the Bruins. They are probably the anomaly within the realm of sports hatred.
Did James Franklin dress in the dark this morning? What kind of shoes did he choose to go with that nice gray suit? Is he going on a hike? Is he tending the cattle? wtf??
Very valid point. I remember Coach Hayes would put 125 kids on scholarship (those were the days). He knew that some of them would never see the field in S&G but he always said he never wanted them playing against tOSU.
But that isn't what Michael is saying. Yeah, the blowouts are the expected end result. But how is the stomach going to churn in those 21-18 matches going into the final minutes?
2006 games were all supposed to be lopsided victories, but so many of them turned into nail biters. When expectations don't meet reality people start questioning those in command. Fire Woody, fire Earl, fire Coop, fire Fickell...we have heard all of this before. Simply, reality did not live up to the hype.
I have to respectfully disagree. And I understand what you are saying as a comparison to the other Tressle years. However, In 2006 OSU averaged 34.6 ppg. Not exactly tearing it up. They played for field opposition and, what we affectionately call, Silver Bullet defense. That is the description of what Tressleball is, or was. Troy passed and ran for 2700 yards combined. And he won the Heisman in a runaway fashion.
As a comparison, Woody Hayes' 1969 team averaged 42.5 ppg in a totally run oriented offense, while playing unbelievable defense and field position. And like the 2006 team, they lost the naty on the last game.
Now, 2014 in UFM's spread (another run oriented offense) the team averaged 44.8 ppg. And that wasn't even the highest average in the nation. I won't go into all of the stats that we all have memorized by now but there was no similarity between this type of fb and what JT ran while he patrolled the sidelines.
Please come back if you think that the case is overstated, but I simply am saying that Troy could not have performed any better than JT and/or Cardale under UFM. And therefore I would not choose him over what we currently have. And I am a super fan of Troy Smith.
Troy in Tressleball vs. JT/Cardale in Urban Sprawl...idk. I can't imagine Troy doing better than our current reigning champions even within UFM's scheme. Troy's 1000 career yards against Michigan is an all-time favorite stat (no one has matched that feat) but under current personnel/coaching and offensive philosophy it should be eclipsed if any quarterback plays 3 or 4 years at tOSU.
Troy was great during his time here and will always be a true fan favorite, but it is very difficult to choose a qb over JT/Cardale with their accomplishments last year.
I have seen items from Bleacher Report where OSU's football facilities were not even in the top ten. FSU's were listed, along with Alabama, Oregon, Oklahoma, Auburn's and even Georgia (if memory serves me). I was shocked and thought that maybe Mr. Wexner may want to correct that oversight seeing how his name is on the building.
And with the re-signing with Nike they gain the use of their signature "maize and blue". The clown show just doesn't stop.