Maybe, but I just didn't like that Tim Biakabatuka fellow running up 313 yards against the '96 defense that cost OSU the B1G Championship ( that went to Northwestern) and the best shot they had for a NC. But other than that little hiccup, yeah, they were pretty good. And those mighty wolverines took their sorry-ass 9-3 record away with another victory over a heavily favored OSU team ranked #2 in the nation. But I never heard anybody say they wanted to fire Pagac after that.
Good read. The comments sure have turned 180 since the lamenting heard yesterday. My God, you would have thought that OSU had closed its football program down. As UFM stated this morning on M&M, JT Barrett was a heavily recruited qb out of Texas for good reason. We will be ok! Stay positive, get excited, my brethren.
But if your boss says its this way or the highway, adult or not, you can change or leave. Your choice, before it becomes his/her choice.
That whole "I was changing the culture but it has been ingrained for decades and I could not turn it on a dime" is horse shit! Anyone who has had sole responsibility for a group, be it 5 or 205 people, know that you can immediately impact the "culture" of the group. You lay down the terms of the group identity and behavior..."cross the line and you are gone...no band membership, no alumni band membership, no symphony band, no pep band. You are Gone, you are persona non grata!"
It is not my place to say that Waters is guilty or innocent of these allegations. But for a person to say I could not affect the behavior of those under my charge is not a very sound defense. In fact the person should be removed for that alone. That is what being in charge means.
Obviously, this list is playing to the younger crowd. No one from the 1968-1971 team??? That team had some nasty players on it! It would be a litany of scrappy to simply run down the roster. How about a backup QB deciding to go for two simply to put a nice 0 at the end of a 5. Scrappy, shit! That team was the definition.
Over 1000 Yds pass/run combination in three games against ttun. Everyone there simply hates the mere mention of his name.
Two thoughts, how would we like to watch UFM's team with a gamer like Troy at the helm and how incredible was his pinpoint long distant accuracy!
I gave up on the Browns and Bengals in 1971 and have never looked back. When Cleveland took Scott over Tatum I was finished with them. Same with the Bengals. So much talent 100 miles from both and yet they consistently draft crap. Super Bowl will elude them until they get a clue
I'm not a Pittsburgh fan but it'll be great to watch RDS as he gets two shots at Johnny Football every year. Don't think JM will be able to scramble around quite as easily in the pros.
I don't believe we have the qb on our roster currently that will follow BM as the starter. Once more, imo the three qb's we saw Saturday will continue to be capable backups but I think we may see a true freshman step into the leading role next year; if all the hype we are hearing is true! Sans Bauserman, we have all been spoiled by very good qb's over the last decade.
All of this is strictly my opinion and I would greatly appreciate other input.
BB87 - I agree with your logic with one small caveat; why is everyone only discussing the $20 alternative when a pre-event purchase price was only $12? Now, try to come up with an alternate entertainment for that price.
And BTW, it isn't simply a practice you're seeing. It is a show of support for the team and assisting a very worthy charity. If all practices were open, there would probably be 20-30k fans at every one. Fans want to see the team of their affection.
S_L - thank you for the input. I cannot understand why some of the OSU faithful on this site cannot follow a story line that is well documented as a charitable event. All of the proceeds go to charity. Half of the responders here continue to write about the greed, the corrupt, etc. people in the Athletic Department. They need to read an article such as the one you have presented and not blow it off as too long for the attention span. I guess haters hate...it's what they do.
Again, thank you for the article. More people need to think or at least research before they put the poison to their pen.
Here's a quote to set your head spinning, per Bleacher Report ~~Seantrel Henderson was once considered the No. 1 high school football prospect in the country. Now he is in danger of not being drafted this season.
His was another signing day show never to be forgotten!
To further the ideas in Crusher's post, read the Sunday Dispatch article on Eddie George. Life after sports has got to be Plan A. Great article on one of our fav's.
Agree so strongly with the pro-Brown voters here, however can understand why the huge up vote for Archie. Archie is probably the best ambassador OSU has ever had from the gridiron whereas Paul Brown was one of the true innovators of football at all levels. Voters from around the state, primarily the Cleveland and Cincinnati areas, would just crush Archie in this vote. However on a Buckeye site like 11W it is pretty much our heart that speaks loudest.
Every game! Those three goof-dicks show up to embarrass the fan base for tOSU. Every damn game...home, away, bowl! They have way too much time and money! And the tv cameras eat that shit up.
Cabana, you missed Vrable middle left and AJ Hawke upper right. What a cool picture to get them all in one frame!
jb322 - disagree with the Stillwagon comment. Jack Tatum was the Kodak All-American Player of the Decade for the 60's. And Woody himself called Larry Zelina the "Jewell of the Super Sophs.". That group has six 1st round picks. On a personal note, Mike Sensibaugh was the finest baseball and basketball player I ever had the privilege to play against in high school. At OSU he was another great player in that group. And how about a set of tackles, Mayes and Foley both drafted in the first round in 1969. It's an impossible task.
JB322 - how incredibly right you are. And even with your list there are another 30-50 that could be in a top 10. And none of us remember the 40's and 50's when OSU was just at the threshold of their rise in collegiate FB. How many of those players would crack this list! A Top 10 is impossible to choose; one person's Laurinaitis is another person's Gradishar which is another person's Katzenmoyer. I would imagine every position has ten that could be included.
As I read the comments here I am reminded of the old adage, "keep your words soft and sweet. One day you may have to eat them".
And thank you B-stu and DC. A brother once is a brother always.
Good article, good follow up comments.
Stu, if nothing else, the last two years have shown us that UFM and Hermann will only open the playbook as far as the talent allows. The players are all gifted athletes however we have seen some pretty bad decisions and ensuing mistakes from both sides of the ball and special teams.
B-69, no blame on what a player can or cannot absorb. The coaching staff has learned to call a game on where BM is in his development.
We all want perfection, every play, every game, every year. And yet, we all know it cannot happen. The best we can contribute is positive support...every play, every game, every year.
Very cool, Oyster.
Miller started the season last year, also. He was injured in the second game, ending up sitting out the rest of that game and the next two. Obviously, he could get injured at any time, but we are all wishing for a complete healthy year for BM.
Mitchell is gone. I do not believe he has officially named a school, but he has moved back to Texas to be close to his ailing father. We all wish him and his family the best.
That kinda goes along with my thinking. Those 15-20 year comments are wishful thinkings but we are all aware of how much UFM wrings out of each and every day. I do not believe anyone can sustain that level for that many years. But for however long it is, let us enjoy and be grateful for them.
Holy Shit!!!! This is a sports venue. When the hell did the flood gates open for the political rhetoric and the alcohol/grass/drugs conflict spew forth? Cut the crap. We all have our opinions and nothing you write here will change anyone's minds. So, if you want to discuss Roby's chances of earning$100k for posting the fastest 40 times, let's hear it. Otherwise, shut your f**king pie hole.