Man, the people thinking we're going to score 50 points or more aren't going to be happy this Monday. We seem to think the team that won the championship and slaughtered Wisconsin is the team coming to Blacksburg, which isn't entirely true. We're missing a TON of firepower due to suspensions, plus it's the first game of the year which always seems to cause undue stress and hand wringing from the fanbase. Don't get me wrong, I think we win by 14 or so, but I'd bet my ass that we won't drop 60 points on that defense.
I think 35-20 sounds about right.
Exactly. I hope I'm wrong, but we ain't scoring 50 on that defense while missing 4 of our best play makers. People are expecting a Wisconsin style shellacking, which simply won't happen. Let me ask: do folks think we'd have put 59 up on Wisky while missing Bosa, Marshall, Corey Smith, etc? I certainly don't think so. I think we win by a 35-20 margin, or thereabouts, though it'll be tight throughout the game.
I've been saying since the suspensions were announced that Nick Vannett would have a HUGE role in this game. If VT goes with the bear again, he'll be especially crucial, as the TE seam route and flat routes are often left open due to the constraints of the scheme. We didn't use them much last year because our OL got hammered so badly, the TE had to stay in and block. I don't see that being quite as necessary this time, what with us having the best OL in the country and all.
Seouldier, wow. Just wow. Way to show some class, dude.
Rival fans ARE allowed to come here and discuss football in a rational manner without being considered "trolling", you know.
Mgeo, you're probably not going to see a 35 point blowout. This will be a tough game that we'll be fortunate to win by more than 14 points. Pre-suspensions is a different story, but we're missing a lot of firepower. It's going to be a battle.
Agreed. We've definitely had issues covering athletic TEs before. Thankfully, this year's defense should be worlds better than the train wreck we saw in 2013.
How many no - name QBs have had Heisman-esque games against us? Brewer, Devin Gardner, the guy from Cal a couple years ago...Hopefully the return of the Silver Bullets will limit the number of times we get diced apart by average QBs going forward...
We already play Michigan, though...
See, if half the teams in our conference had bullshit poll rankings gifted to them all year long, our schedule would be a lot "tougher", too. But unfortunately, our conference teams don't get the benefit of the doubt from our championship win that Arkansas, TAM, SC, Tennessee get from Bama's wins. Maybe if the B1G East goes 2-5 in bowls this year, 6 of the teams will start 2016 ranked?
Man, this got a little testy, yes? I was irritated by the smarmy "AnOSU" comment, but most of the VT folks I've seen here and on TKP have been completely classy. I'd much rather have fans like theirs around here than TTUN or PSU fans. Be careful what you wish for, guys.
Yeah, I hate when people use that argument. VA Tech is going to be playing at a MUCH higher level for this game than they were against WF. There's a reason a lot of folks are picking ya'll to win the Coastal division. Or is it Atlantic? I can never tell.
If we're full strength, I believe it's a rout. But we're missing some serious firepower and playing a very good defense in a hostile environment. I think this will be a battle throughout, with our depth and talent taking over in the 4th as we win by 14. VT definitely has my attention.
Uh. JT might not have the cannon that Cardale has, but ask MSU how JT's long ball is?
Just got tickets to the Minnesota game today! I'm stoked, being as it's a night game and because I've never seen us play Minny live before. My hope is that they beat or at least challenge TCU and end up ranked when we play them. Can't wait!
I'm equally irritated by the lack of respect for the B1G - after a very good bowl season, with wins over several ranked teams - and the perpetuation of the SEC's "dominance". The SEC actually benefitted more from losing several high profile bowl games than the B1G did by winning them. Wisky should be higher, PSU should be ranked and Nebraska probably should be as well. The SEC West went 2-5 in bowls, yet essentially every team from the division is in the top 30? Yeah, ok. Pure delusion.
A true "Michigan Man", if there ever was one.
I was right there with you last year, wondering why the hell we didn't run the quick slants to neutralize the blitz and bear coverage, but I found out by reading this site that VT corners were playing inside coverage, essentially taking away the slant route. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than I can elaborate. Hopefully we'll have other ways to penalize the bear defense this year - if they employ it in similar fashion, that is.
Hokie Fireman, I'm a lot more nervous for this game than I thought I'd be. Granted the suspensions have a lot to do with that, but it's going to be a challenge. I know VT will have something up their sleeve, as I wouldn't expect them to duplicate last year's scheme exactly. If anything, you will probably focus even more on the run and short to intermediate passing game, since don't have a Devin Smith to take the top off the secondary this go around. I think this will be one of our most challenging games of the year, though having all year to plan for ya'll definitely helps. Not playing a unique triple option attack the week prior will also benefit us.
I've been saying this a lot. The TEs were open last year a lot, as were flat passes, but we had to keep RBs and TEs in to help pass block.
Hokie Fireman, you do know that there ARE ways to beat the blitz, right? Granted, we couldn't execute them last year, but this is a totally different team, probably more in line with what you saw at the end of last season in terms of scheme and overall cohesion. Our offensive line is one of the best in college football and returns 4 of 5 starters. VT won't have the benefit of playing 4 brand new starters and a green QB this time.
He also claims that the potent offense of Ohio State won’t find the same success that they had in their post-season games against the Hokies.
Is there some way to get this quote to our locker room? That's a rather presumptuous comment. VT is a great defense and we're down several of our biggest playmakers, but this will still be the best offense they face all year long. WR is a concern, but if the O-line can protect the QB without us having to keep a RB or TE in at all times in max protect, I'd look for swing and flat passes to Zeke and Curtis Samuel all night long. I also think Nick Vannet will have a huge game on the seam route. I'm really glad this is a "revenge" game for UFM, because if he has a chance to twist the knife after last year's loss, he will.
I know what you're saying about Cal fans, but you're missing the point. This was a game 2500 miles away against a team that wasn't within light years of being ranked. Cal fans or not, that's still a LOT of people to be at a far away road game against a non elite team.
This is a very good breakdown of the varying levels of Shoe noise. For those tight games against highly ranked teams that we know will be dogfights, the crowd is insane. Think 2005 Texas, 2008 Penn State or 2009 USC. 2011 Wisconsin was up there as well. As mentioned, those games have happened fewer and far between due to the weaker B1G the last few years and the precipitous decline of our "quality" OOC matchups since USC 2009. Miami, Cal and VT ended up being duds. Granted, VT beat us, but still.
The games we see more often than not are those like last year's Indiana game or PSU from 2013: snooze-fest noon games against overmatched opponents where the Buckeyes struggle, which takes the crowd out of it; or, massive blowouts against overmatched teams that the crowd enjoys for 2 quarters before leaving to beat traffic. I was at PSU 2013 and the crowd was definitely rocking for a quarter or two, but it got out of hand quickly and folks lose interest after you hit the 60 point plateau.
Hopefully PSU, Minny and MSU this year will all be ranked, with at least MSU being a top 5 team. That should keep the crowd fired up, hopefully at the deafening level that we've come to expect against elite teams in prime time.
I've always heard good things about campus and the environment in particular, so I don't share the negative opinion shown above. Them again, I've never actually BEEN there, so maybe I'm the one that's wrong?
A small chance, but it's certainly possible. If Minny can keep TCU at around 28 points or fewer, it could happen. Minny has a strong defense that's underrated and one of the best CB tandems in the country. Like many others, I just question whether Minny has the offensive firepower to keep up with Boykin and Co.