I highly doubt a win over a 4-3 team that lost to a FCS team is going to invigorate the fanbase.
This is probably Tim Beck's fault too.
Corey Smith is going to play with a cast? Really? Is it just me, or is playing a WR who defenses know won't have any balls thrown his way because he's WEARING A FREAKING CAST a huge advantage to the opposing defense? Yeah, I know Corey can block, which is very important for Ohio State WRs, but if there's not even a THREAT of a guy catching a pass, what is the point?
Also, if a one-handed, non-pass catching Corey Smith is a better option to start than several other WRs on the roster, that tells you all that you need to know about our aerial passing game issues. Oh well, beat the shit out of NW, please.
Is it just me, or do we almost never call passing routes to take advantage of the constant blitzing by opposing defenses? We see our D get burned by screens and quick slants all the time, which seems to be a good way to neutralize a fast, pressure-minded defense. We saw virtually none of that vs. PSU and I'd wager that we don't see those routes much at all. Is there something we do schematically that prevents us from taking advantage of this? I wondered the same thing when VT went all Bear on our ass.
Uh, pretty sure Bosa was getting double and triple teamed all of last season. But the position is about a lot more than sacks and TFLs, which is why he still got drafted 3rd and is already DOMINATING in the NFL.
Holy shit. That Isaiah Prince stat is just....bad.
Yep, this is just bad. Look at the DRASTIC difference between 2014 and 2015/2016. And yes, this is a young and inexperienced team, but guess what? So was 2014! We've had two years of this discombobulated offense and we hear the same "we will fix it" or "we need to be balanced" tropes after every uninspired win over Indiana or NIU or Minnesota.
This is unfortunately true. The staff has done him no favors all year long. Despite feeling pretty mellow about the loss initially, I feel more pissed about it now than I did Saturday, simply because it was so damn avoidable. For as great as Urban Meyer is, his team's almost always have one inexplicable loss per year, going all the way back to 2008 Florida against Ole Miss. He also seems to be pretty damn stubborn, as we've been hearing the same tired trope of "we must be more balanced" for years. I have a lot of faith in him but am extremely curious to see how the rest of the year plays out.
I love JT, but 2014 is looking more and more like the exception rather than the rule, at least in terms of pure passing skills. Of course, the issues of 2015 and 2016 are by no means on JT alone, but he also failed to take the starting spot from Cardale Jones to start last year, so the coaches obviously saw some regression as well.
JT hasn't looked great this year, but how many QBS would when their #1 WR disappears for huge portions of entire games, 3 or 4 converted H-backs and a TE who either makes amazing catches or completely whiffs his blocks and/or routes? The other knock on JT is his size, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's closer to 6' - or less - than the generous 6'1" listed by Ohio State. In short, he's not exactly an NFL ready prospect, and unless he absolutely DOMINATES the rest of the year and leads this team to the promised land, I see him returning. If we can get consistent line play, one or two legit WRS and stop telegraphing our play calling - especially on 1st down - he can be one of the all time greats.
He got benched for a while due to ball security issues. I love JM, but it's not surprising.
Anyone else surprised to see names next to the "WR" positions? I'm pretty sure they've been vacant all year.
This is why I explicitly mentioned the games against Tulsa, Indiana and PSU in my comment. I wouldn't qualify any of those defenses as "elite". No one is complaining about the Wisconsin game because most of us understand that was a major win against an incredible defense in hostile territory. It's a little harder to rationalize 93 yards passing against Indiana and the atrocious showing from Saturday night. I would've expected - that kind of performance against Michigan or MSU (pre-2016 MSU).
That's the worst part in all of this. People see the UM obliteration of Penn State and now get to compare that to the abomination we witnessed in HV Saturday night.
Brutus, 14 of the 48 against Tulsa came from the defense. And the offense did virtually nothing until the second half.
Against Indiana, sure, there were 38 points, but JT was well under 50% completions and threw for 93 yards - 35 yards of which came off of a LATE TD to Dontre Wilson. We went two full quarters without a freaking pass completion. Again, this was INDIANA, not Michigan. Notice how no one is complaining about only scoring 30 against Wisconsin, since most of realize their D is elite. This offense can get it together in time for a stretch run, but to pretend like there are zero offensive issues and that this is all just a figment of unrealistic fan's imagination is fantasy. There are problems with this offense and there have been since Game 2 of 2015.
There's some truth here. We definitely don't seem to go with what's working a lot of the times. We get far too cute with our option plays that almost always lose yards and put us behind the chains. So frustrating.
Maybe I'm wrong, but perhaps he doesn't feel the need to roast his players and coaches in the media? He's not Brian Kelly and I'm incredibly happy about that. Handle your business in house; we'll see very soon if there are improvements on the field.
This. So much.
I think there is a lot of middle ground between your hyperbole and being completely impotent against powerhouses such as Indiana, Tulsa and PSU. I was quite content with the Wisky game because their defense is ELITE and we made plays when we needed to. The Indiana and PSU games really stand out, though, for their glaring offensive issues. And really, this has happened in the majority of games since Hawaii last year: NIU, Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota, and then every game this year except BG and OU and Wisky, to a small extent.
It's quite telling that this is the one game people consistently reference when trying to prove how capable we are of putting a downfield passing together. At least, the one game against elite competition. We haven't had a game like it since with Barrett at the helm.
Not necessarily. There's a reason were still ahead of Baylor in the AP poll and almost certainly the CFP poll. We've got two ranked road wins over top 15 teams and winning out would only enhance that. A 1-loss Ohio State (provided that they are the B1G champs) gets in over Baylor or WVU. A Washington loss would definitely help, though.
I agree with these being fixable issues. However, a lot of the guys that have struggled with the very basic fundamentals of playing WR have been with the program for 3 years or more. Either A, we're putting RBs or H-backs at a position they're not capable of playing, or B, they're not getting the coaching they need. Considering the fact that we have had these issues going back a few years and the fact that I consistently see SIGNIFICANTLY better WR play at places like Western Michigan and fucking Boise State, I think we may not have the right guy coaching technique. Although I think the recruiting methodology of forcing quicky, shifty H-backs into our #2, #3 and #4 receiver positions is also flawed. I've seen little from Campbell, Dixon, Hill, etc. to convince me that they can be the type of dependable mid range to downfield threat needed to power this team through a playoff run. I still have faith in Urban Meyer - he's earned that much - but I think everything about our passing game and who we put into it is flawed, and has been really since Meyer got here (with the exception of 2014).
Look at the losses: 2013 MSU, 2014 VT, 2015 MSU and 2016 PSU: a struggling passing game void of any even AVERAGE WR play is a hallmark of each one. That's a concern.
Dude didn't you know that the B1G refs have it out for Penn State?
The ball thrown to Clark on the last deep route of the game was perfect. A guy in his 4th year in the program has to catch that in that situation.
Yeah, I posted this exact same topic last week. It actually seemed to me like the refs went out of their way NOT to penalize Penn state last night. Their RG pulled back early no fewer than 3 times, yet only we got nailed down for false start penalties. The horse collar penalty was also terrible, not to mention the no call on the hail Mary to Clark. No, that didn't cost us the game; or godawful WR play and O-line protection did, but it's still frustrating to watch.