Players still get drafted from ND, just like tOSU. If you grew up in Catholic culture, when to Catholic school, it's tough to turn down that life style at the college level. Being comfortable is nearly as important as the head coach/facilities/depth chart.
Right coach/recruiter makes any program viable. Ron Zook couldn't coach a lick but he could bring players to Illinois ffs. Seems to be the case for Butch Jones. He's done better recruiting the best players in Tennessee (Hurd is probably his biggest fish) and now maybe he can pluck some guys from farther away.
Yea, I have to roll my eyes just a tad at all this "I don't want a guy whose worried about competition". When I look at a good number of QBs in the NFL, they went to schools where they could start or ended up transferring to where they could start. And don't think they didn't have favorite schools and coaches. But in the end, you have to have a path to the starting job. Beating one guy is reasonable. But 2? 3? Eh, pass. I see no shame in that.
Yea, his body type and running style is similar to TP, who looked like a grown ass man coming out of HS. What worries me more is I don't see the same type of quick decision making that Barrett showed in his highlight reel and I don't see the rocket arm that Cardale showed in his.
In fact, it seems like his highlight tape is MORE running than passing and while that's good enough to win the Big 10, I don't know it's that good enough to win natty's 3 years from now. But I'm also not Urban Meyer or Tim Beck so......I'll leave it to the experts....
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What happened to him? I haven't heard anything about him since he enrolled.
@Gametime, thank you so much for making this about cold hard facts. In all the situations that matter the most, JT is better. Bottom line is, with JT, tOSU ran plays in Meyer's system that they could not run with Miller. Anytime you have to put away pages in your playcard, your QB is holding you back.
I expect Cardale to start the season simply because he's healthy going into spring ball. But I'm sorry, when all three QBs are healthy, JT is the best of the three. He is mobile enough and most accurate with the ball (on top of being the best decision maker). I'm so tired of hearing how Cardale changed everything about tOSU's offense, as if there was no deep ball with JT. I seem to remember Devin Smith catching plenty of long TDs from JT.
Not saying I don't want Cardale to be successful, I do. But only because I don't think Miller or JT are capable of giving him a real run for the starting job. Don't be surprised if Cardale's leash is very short during this season.
Trojans have 7 QBs on their roster. Oregon will probably have 6 guys there when the transfers and recruits settle in. Honestly, 4 isn't enough. You want QBs developing through competition, both on the field/practice and in the film room.
I want the guy who stays and says "I'm going to rise above all of these highly touted dudes and be the man."
Woody Barrett looks like a Braxton Clone, which sounds nice but comes with "can he actually distribute the ball and convert on third down with the pass"?
DeWeaver has a JT feel to me. Not the fastest but fast enough, accurate, seems to keep his composure when the pocket was dissolving around him. And yes, with a name like Messiah DeWeaver, it's hard not to root for him lollll
I still really want Haskins over all these guys. Guarantano holds the ball quite a bit, I wonder if he actually knows where to go with the ball more often than not. I did like that he was't a reckless scrambler (at least in these highlights, who knows what the low lights were). I just think Haskins might turn out to be the best of this bunch.
But I'm also not Tony Alford or Tim Beck or Urban Meyer, I'm not a 3 time Natty winner, so really, my opinion is worth as much as gum on your shoe.
I think Urban likes having competition in the QB room. Yes, there's a risk that one of those guys will transfer. So what. Only one can play at a time. You want these guys to compete and that will decide "which guy is the best?" instead of having little depth and going "ok, this guy wins by default".
I know you're probably worried about not having depth in other places (O-line and d-line most importantly). But I trust Urban on this one. He knows how to find ONE guy to get the job done. That's the most important piece of the puzzle, everything else gets hooked on later.
"Lord blimey, they do know how to kill the mood, do Newcastle" lollll
It's interesting that individually the assistants appear underpaid but together they're in the top 10 as a staff.
Meaning there are schools who have one or two highly paid assistants but other guys not getting their fair share. This is probably the issue at Wiscy and other Big 10 schools. There are 3 SEC schools in the top 8 in staff salary. And we wonder why the young energetic minds/recruiters get plucked.
It's not about the def or off coordinators, its those position coaches who also seal the deal on the recruiting trail or have good regional connections. Until Big 10 schools (outside of tOSU) treat their whole staff right, the collective mediocrity will continue.
He wasn't a diamond in the rough. He was a highly touted QB recruit, he's doing exactly what he should be doing, winning and lighting it up.
Finally a big play that these refs didn't erase....
ok third and long, time for minny refs to give them a freebie
they just made that call up tbh
Just ridiculous smh
have to get off the field.....
A lateral? smh
I think some people just want to see tOSU play lights out against a ranked opponent. There's a strange validation in going on the road and killing an opponent in the middle of the 2nd quarter (like Oregon does or FSU did last yr).
Also, the turnovers are alarming. Generally, turning the ball over on the road == loss.
Yea, it's tough cuz these Minny rb's aren't going to put the ball on the turf but also, minny's QB isn't goign to take chances.
People accuse schools of paying players on here all the time. I don't understand why the post got downvoted because I find it funny that people on this site think tOSU (or people connected to tOSU) is above paying athletes.
I was literally asking "why has his recruitment stalled with other schools?" That's it. If his recruitment has been done all this time, why has he not committed already? What is he waiting for?