Doesn't Thad have to coach from a wheeled desk chair. I've never blamed Thad for poor coaching, but recruiting used to be his thing, and I can't imagine a high school recruit coming in and seeing their HC rolling around trying to coach, and subsequently coming to OSU. Waning health is my concern for Thad and it might be time for an admin role.
I remember reading somewhere that the most dangerous thing about social media is that it allows people to produce comments that would otherwise be completely unacceptable around the masses, but because they're connected to those few people who agree, they get "liked" or "upvoted," deem it acceptable behavior, and continue to be a shit-stain on society.
Beck routinely sounds like a guy in a mid-year review. "I think I got better as a coach." ??? I'm sorry but I don't like the fact that it took him a year to understand how to coach.
Agree 100%. It seems we don't have either this year, but who knows what Thompson or Potter can turn into. Dials had his learning curve.
A. This game was terrible. Poor execution, turnovers, just bad basketball.
B. This team just hung with UVA @ UVA, which I don't think would have ever happened with last year's team (see @IU, @MSU)
C. This isn't the first time OSU dropped to a shit team (Findlay 2007)
D. Lyle is a Lyle-bility (GOD I'M CLEVER!) when he's on the court trying to "take over."
C. Without a true stud at the 5, Thad's teams have struggled, barring a Naismith candidate. Even Craft struggled without Sully.
B. Member....member how Thad likes his teams to peak in February. I member.
A. I don't think the sky is falling just yet.
Wait, you're saying we can set this program back a decade...
Out of curiosity, is this based off pay alone? This traditionally hasn't been a power house basketball team before Thad got here, with the one O'Brien outlier. I get money talks, but the same could've been said with Michigan after LLLloyd left, and they actually had tradition.
"I'm 100% coming baaOHLY SHIT $10.5 MILLION DOLLARS?!"
Block-O has to have something in store...
I'm so happy about that nickname
Should put a damper on this upcoming presser.
This might not be the most civil comment, but after Chancellor proved he was a piece of shit with a cheap shot in a preseason game, I absolutely loved that Zeke A. got right back up, and B. Gave the vet a "welcome to the league," truck-stick hit of his own on the next play. If that was an OSU vs anyone else game, I would've woken the neighbors.
Ranch on pizza..I can't enjoy it the same without.
I realize that this statement is going to be whole heartedly stupid as Wisconsin does seem to be trending in the right direction, but if I had to watch buzzcut basketball (games in the 40 pt range) year after year, I don't know if I could do it without some help in the form of beer.
I've always thought that there are two issues hindering this program as of late. The first is that IU is no longer in the valley that Mike Davis and Kelvin Sampson put them in during the mid/late 2000's. I still believe that us getting Oden and Conley was a direct result of IU being down. Not to mention Deshaun Thomas (all Indiana recruits). Say what you will about Crean but for the most part he has righted the Hoosier ship and will continue to grab top Indiana talent. I think Matta still has "it" when recruiting players. He's a likable guy, and very relatable. He clearly has a sense of humor and is not one to complain/place blame when things go awry -- Russell is a prime example of him still being able to attract top talent -- however this brings me to a point that a lot have mentioned -- Matta's health.
I'm convinced no one truly knows how bad Matta's back is, and it's because he won't allow anyone to know. However, if I was a recruit and I saw my future practice being led by a head coach who can't get out of his chair, I would either need to fall in love his philosophy and character (entirely possible), or I would start seriously questioning how long that coach could physically be around the game of basketball. Also in terms of culture, how difficult would it be to get your players to the gym, when your next worry is how you're going to get home and take off your shoes and socks? I honestly think it's Matta's declining health that you can use as a corollary to negative trending records. I think the only reason this hasn't affected his teams more is because of the kind of upstanding guy Thad is, and I think it takes a truly special person to be in his position and keep the focus away from him. I just wonder how much longer he can continue to push that issue aside.
I don't know if I've ever seen such a piss poor performance boxing out. Offensive rebounds killed us. What's worse was when you have three guys around the rim and one IU player comes from 10 feet away to rebound and score. Gotta get that fixed. I refuse to believe with all of Giddens' ups on the defensive side of the floor, that he can't be a rebounding monster.
there was a time where Thad brought in this kind of freshman (the one and done kind).
Agreed, Thad used to bring in this kind of talent -- 06-07 being the pinnacle class, but that also took advantage of a down UK and IU. Sullinger also came specifically because of his Buckeye roots. I'd throw DeShaun and Russel in the same boat of being heavily recruited, but for whatever reason not in the same caliber as the top 5-10 in the country (I believe Russel was 13th). I'm not even going to through Laquinton on here because he never seemed to have 1 & done type talent, and would have benefited by staying at least another year, if not two.
Dropping 2 to supposed "cupcakes" is never a good look, but I don't think we can play the "we should be good at basketball because we should be" card. If you look historically at this program, Thad has made everyone forget about Randy Ayers, and the Bill O'Brian eras. Correct me if I'm wrong but other than the 2006-07 season, and the year with Lucas and Havlicek Ohio State has been a relatively upper-middle team, that produced 1-2 good players every few years (Jackson, Turner, Williams, Penn, Redd, Dials), and most are the product of maturity rather than fresh talent.
1. I think the Les Miles - Thad Matta comparison is fair, but I would also caution to be careful what you wish for. We can pay our coaches a lot of money, but so could Michigan football for the better part of a decade and we all know how that turned out.
2. Everyone needs to get it through their head that we're not Duke, or UK. The best comparison is Michigan State, except I would argue we are essentially the reciprocal of MSU (a basketball school with a good football program vs a football school with a good basketball program).
3. With that in mind, think about all the great MSU basketball teams in the recent past and what they had: Payne-3 year starter, Green - 4 year player, Valentine - 4 year player, couple that with kids like Gary Harris.
I guess my point is, it's easy to write off this team and rightfully so, but there has been little-to-know consistency within this program since Sullinger left. A lot of that blame can be with the coaches, but I don't think it can be stressed enough how much last years senior class hurt this program.
Can someone clarify this timeline for me:
Herman hired as HC of Houston --> Warriner promoted to OC --> Urban goes after guys he wants and doesn't get them --> Warriner and Beck have worked together before--> Urban hires Beck as QB coach (seemingly not looking at Nebraska's QB history the past decade?) --> Warriner can't call plays so Urban "promotes" Beck to play calling duties --> Beck has job above pay grade?
Dude doesn't remember the Randy Ayers years
For whatever reason I feel good about this game...Sounds like Urban is lighting a fire under them.
I believe player voted with Meyer having ultimate veto/choosing power.
Just a thought, but I wouldn't be surprised if the reason JT was named captain was because Cardale was starting. Similar to the Guiton/Miller situation. Would give JT some extra validation that he's important to the team regardless of who's #1, and that the keys are his in 2016. Could be way off, but it definitely got me thinking.
Golden Receiver?....yeah, I went there
I know this is a joke, but wasn't he in the "best shape of his life" when he got hurt throwing a football?
I feel like I have become so incredibly cautiously optimistic with Braxton. He toys with my emotions too much.
Yeah but Disney World is where dreams come true...
If he didn't take Texas I doubt he even thinks about a Michigan job.