I have a funny feeling that Maryland takes a few lumps but turns into something pretty damn competitive. The B1G wants this to happen badly as it opens the door to acquiring Virgina (I think UVA would be a great addition. Great academics, opens up all of VA for recruiting and TV, and could transform into something).
All in the game. You know how it goes around here. Season starts and we get flooded with new blood. I have a few to spare.
Penn State got sanctions and TTUN has been terrible. We count on them to help carry the conference. If those teams were back in the conversation, you'd have 5 or 6 "contenders" with Ohio State, PSU, MSU, TTUN, Wisky, and Neb. That's respectable and "power." Every once and a while throw in Iowa as a decent team.
TTUN will right the ship eventually. PSU is building itself into something formidable. Sparty's got Dantonio, Wisky is consistently ranked from 22-8, and Nebraska is a top 25 team that will have some good years here and there.
Its the confluence of TTUN getting terrible and the PSU scandal. Things will get better.
Also, it doesn't matter. Buckeyes just need to win. The hell with everyone else.
No worries we still have a high-powered offense ... oh, I got confused. Nevermind.
If 11w writes it, its better than official.
My general objection was to DJ's characterization of those that prefer Tressel as
"goofs." That opinion is a reasoanble one. Regardless of the circmstances, JT did far more here than Urbz has. JT had his shortcomings but so does Urbz. We got very lucky in getting Urbz after JT. I don't think Urbz is a bad coach, I don't want him fired, but there are some things he could have handled better. For one he doesn't take blame. That's bad leadership. You mention healthy QBs, he absolutley should've pulled Brax from the Orange Bowl. I was there and it was obvious to everyone that Brax was hurt. He is a man, he isn't perfect, its OK to criticize him.
I never bet on the Buckeyes because I consider it bad luck. They should cover but they should've beaten VT. I could see this being a 34-7 game. I think 32 is asking a bit much. Even if the offense is looking good, 44-14. Its too big of a line for me in a good year and far too wide for me this year.
This year's O line is so terrible that it is more of an indictment on coaching. The line has looked so bad that at this point I would trade i for nearly any other B1G school's line. That is preparation and recruiting. Funny thing is, I think Warinner will have them ready and turn them into something decent.
Its funny, everyone is pointing to JT's losses but failing to consider his successes. As a Buckeye coach Urbz has won nothing. That was my original point. DJ refers to those that would trade Urbz for JT as "goofs" (because he is the Cowherd of 11w he says things just to get reactions), yet that opinion is not unreasonable considering what JT accomplished here. Urbz simply has yet to accomplish much as a Buckeye and has made some criticism worthy decisions. In the end he could be a legend here but he hasn't proven that yet.
VT had some "tip your hat" plays on O that kept the pressure on. Grant's failure to secure the interception hurt too. However, we're picking nits at the D. Those guys were on the field for a long time.
Went back and looked it up. TP 17/31 and intercepted twice and lost two fumbles thus 4 turnovers.
In that game TP threw around 4 interceptions and the Buckeyes lost. Tress could've lost to VT. Its possible. But it wouldn't be because he had a whole unit that was so unprepared. The fan reaction would be different if one guy made a bunch of mistakes which cost Ohio State the game vs VT but that's not what happened.
Exactly. You got to it before I did. People are equating unranked VT to 2008 USC that had 3 LBrs that would start for any NFL team.
This has been brought up before. VT and Navy are not USC. The 2008 USC team might have been the best team in college football that year but they flubbed one to Oregon State. There is no comparison between 2008 USC and 2014 VT an UNRANKED team. This Oline has failed to open up running lanes and in pass protection. That team went 10-2, losing on Colt McCoy's slant to cap off the year. It finished the year ranked 10th. I would trade that year's offensive line for this one in a second. There is no comparison. The D let up 35 points. You remember that game far differently than I do. The offense was bad in part because they were playing a D full of NFL talent. Allow me list their LBs: Brian Cushing, Ray Maulaluga, and Clay Mathews III. There were a bunch of sacks, but it was more the fact that Boeckman was statuesque. A more mobile, freshman, TP moved the ball a bit better.
The Navy game was terrible about this. Kept playing piped in music over the band.
I said something similar and am not going to back off of it now. I don't know if we have Urbz the UF coach. We have Urbz the Ohio State coach. Comparing Urbz the Ohio State coach and Tress, there really is no comparison. Tress has won things here and Urbz hasn't. Tress never has a unit as terrible as this year's offensive line is. The guy wasn't perfect but we take him for granted. Tress created one of the best eras of Buckeye football. I think Urbz could be better but he hasn't proved that yet.
We act like Urbz is above any criticism and that's as silly as the "FIRE ____" threads. We make fun of Bollman and tout Herman as a MENSA member. Yet, Bollman seemed to have a damn fine plan versus the Buckeyes last year in Indy.
My point is that neither coach is infaliable but Tress did things here that Urbz simply hasn't done yet. Thus, its reasonable to prefer Tres over Urbz. Maybe Urbz will be a better Buckeye coach in the end but he doesn't deserve that title now.
I was in art school and a punk rock band. Two months later I joined the army. Later, I attended law school at Ohio State and now I study national security law. My life is completely different than it would've been.
I was thinking incomplete simply because he hasn't had an opportunity to be a QB yet. Its almost as if we are being asked to grade him before he played a game. The only things I am certain of are: 1) he's tough; 2) he is a decent enough runner that teams need to respect his mobility; 3) he moves around in the pocket fairly well. I can't tell much about his accuracy or decision making because he has been repeatedly slammed into the turf.
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Puh-leeeeze bring back the ability to dv posts!
JT and Urbz are head coaches. They are responsible for the team in total, not just subsections and not just stats. I don't care how many points the offense puts up if they aren't winning. Yesterday was about more than the 21 points. It was about the offense repeatedly losing TOP and putting the D in bad positions. The only stats that matter are wins.
JT won 81% of his games at Ohio State. In Ten years he went 9-1 vs TTUN winning 7 B1G titles and one National Championship. He won 5 bowl games.
Urban is 2-0 vs TTUN but has not won a bowl game or a B1G Championship. He hasn't been here long enough to know whether he will equal Tress, but, HE CERTAINLY HASN'T YET.
JT never had a unit as bad as this Oline is right now. Ever.
Urbz has a chance to be a great coach for the Buckeyes but that still remains to be seen. Right now, its hype. I think he pulls things together but right now there is no comparison between the two coaches as Buckeyes.
That Oline was not as bad as this one. It at least could open up running lanes. This Oline cannot pass protect or open up running lanes. That team went 10-1. Beanie Wells had a great season. That line was not in the same universe of suck as this line.
Tress Oline wouldn't be that bad. No way. He never had a terrible, not worthy to step on the field unit. Only way he loses to VT is if something flukey happens.
I don't quite know where to post this. I guess here will do. This team has some bright spots. I think that in time they'll develop into something pretty darn good. But that Oline was the worst preforming unit I have ever witnessed at Ohio State. We make fun of Bollman, and take the Tressell years for granted. But, Tressell doesn't lose that game yesterday. He wouldn't have one unit on the team that was so terrible. In his entire tenure, he NEVER had an Oline that bad. Sure, his Oline was made better by Warinner but this is year three of Urbz. He's had the luxury of knowing precisely when he was going to need a new starting line. Yet, we witnessed that shit show. That Oline isn't just bad. It is among the bottom of college football. No push, no protection. Urbz is now 1for the last 4.
I think this can be turned around. However, I remember a poll conducted on this site in which the majority thought urbz was a better Ohio State coach than Tress. I would bet if that poll was conducted now the results would be different.
FANTASTIC write up. Well-done. Its articles like this that make the site great.