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Comment 18 Jan 2017

The list of Spring Game MVPs is litered with people who made zero real impact in a meaningful game.  I

Taurian Washington comes to mind.

Comment 18 Jan 2017

I have a friend on the staff that has told me Burrow has outperformed JT since the Spring game, but Urban would not even listen to the offensive coaches telling him that Burrow would be better fit for the personnel they had on offense last year.

I find this hard to believe.

He claims there was definitely a rift between Beck, Warinner and Urban over JT as starter. 

There definitely was a rift....over shitty scheme and play calling.

Look, I'm defending Barrett and feel he deserves a pass based on the trainwreck scheme and jr high play calling we have had over the last two years. If Barrett comes out and struggles under Wilson's play calling, then I will agree a change might need to be made. Until that point, a guy who has gone 26-4 deserves a little bit of slack given the circumstances...especially when basing your opinions on the HOPE that another QB would do better without said QB ever playing any meaningful snaps. People forget how good our offense was under Herman with BOTH JT and CJ. Herman leaves and BOTH QBs begin to struggle...it doesn't take a genius to see where/when the issues started.

Comment 18 Jan 2017

He has a special quality in him that doesnt show up on the stat sheet. 

MANY people, who are paid to know these types of things(ie coaches), say the same thing about JT.

Comment 18 Jan 2017

Someone is being a little dramatic, and overly harsh, this morning.

Comment 17 Jan 2017

"Argued against my own point" - not at all.  My point was JT needs top notch talent surrounding him to succeed which I thought was pretty clear.

You're playing on both sides of the fence...taking away credit for a quality 2014 with great supporting talent yet fully blaming him for a below average 2015 and 2016 with lesser talent and poor scheme and play calling.

With the talent JT will have in 2017, he won't be successful against the better Ds

How do you know? We actually have an OC that understands how to run this kind of offense. But I suppose the better option is to give the reins to someone who hasn't played any meaningful snaps in a college game because he was really good in high school.

Joe Burrow has demonstrated that every time he's been on the field in HS, spring game and as OSU's backup.

So Burrow is clearly better than JT because he was really good in high school, scrimmage games, and mop up duty?

The PS game was JTs 7th start

You mean the game where he played most the game injured and still rallied the team for an OT win?

I'm not discounting the offensive struggles the last two years, but to put all of that on JT is absurd.

Comment 17 Jan 2017

the qb has to be able to stretch the field in order to have success.

Not discounting your opinion, but on the flip side, you have to have the scheme in place to allow the QB to stretch the field.

Either way, as fruitless as this argument(the should JT be our starter) is, so far it's been more civil and contsructive than the Cardale vs. JT argument 2 years ago.

Comment 17 Jan 2017

I think the issue is many don't understand is why there are some that are so quick to throw JT aside when it's been painfully obvious our scheme, playcalling, and coaching have been awful the last two years. Does JT deserve some blame? Of course. But isn't it just as likely that the reason he has regressed is something that can be quickly turned around with proper scheme and coaching? He's earned that chance.

Comment 17 Jan 2017

but JT was surrounded by the best that college football had to offer in 2014: Urb, Herman, a fantastic offensive line that mostly went pro after that season, Zeke at RB, one of OSUs great all-time deep threats in Devin Smith, best rookie WR in the NFL this yr MIchael Thomas, and other NFL receivers such as Jalin Marshall, Nick Vannett, Jeff Heuerman, and Curtis Samuel.

You just argued against your own point with this statement.

That level of support isn't coming back in 2017.

That level of support wasn't there in 2015 or 2016...from a talent AND coaching standpoint. What makes you think an unproven QB would be any better? You know what IS different about 2017??? A coach who actually understands how to run the offense Meyer wants to run. Give the guy a chance...he's earned it.

Even in 2014 PS and VT demonstrated that if you can crowd the box effectively you can bring JT to a halt.

Yea, his 2nd start where even Meyer himself admitted the coaching staff was unprepared for that defense.

Comment 17 Jan 2017

What some would like to better understand, however, is why Meyer is seemingly choosing to go into 2017 already having his mind set on a player, as good as that player is in some areas, who struggles as much as JT Barrett does throwing the football? 

Maybe Meyer knows the issues were more with scheme and playcalling than personnel.

Comment 16 Jan 2017

Agreed. I used to like their recruiting page because, at the time, it had a more modern feel but they've barely updated the page at all the last few years. As you said, you can tell they aren't putting as much effort into it anymore. 

Comment 16 Jan 2017

Just because someone ditched ESPN doesn't mean they don't want to or can't watch ESPN programming. If you ditch ESPN and OSU plays in the CFP, are you going to find somewhere to watch the game? Or will you just watch a Modern Family rerun? The bottom line is yes, ratings might SLIGHTLY improve being held on a ABC but if you look at the data from the past it in no ways supports the theory that ratings are suffering(i.e. the drop from 2014 to now) bc the games are now on ESPN. 

Comment 16 Jan 2017

Imagine if ESPN tried to do it then, viewership would drop a tonne

That's a poor comparison. The Super Bowl is an event that shuts down nearly all new TV programming for that day. Furthermore, the majority of viewership comes from Super Bowl parties so whether someone has ESPN or not, the Super Bowl would still get it's ratings. Would it drop SOME? Maybe a little, but not nearly to the extent you are implying. The same can be said about the CFP. In fact, if you look at the ratings from the last few years it was on ABC to when it switched to ESPN they were very comparable. If you look at the first year of the CFP, the ratings FAR outpaced any years(aside from I think the year Texas won) when the game was on ABC so the whole ESPN vs ABC argument doesn't hold as much weight as team fatigue and the games be held on NYE.

Comment 16 Jan 2017

How accurately can they measure the audience that watches games in sports bars and family parties

Its part of the survey Nielsen uses. It's not an exact science, but it's something they factor into their calculations.