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Comment 25 Feb 2015

Davey Boy - Blah, Blah, Blah. You can keep pretending you know who I am or what I'm about, but you will continue to be wrong. Either way, it's pretty sad you let someone you will never meet, whose only interaction with you is on a freaking sports forum, get you so worked up.

Have a lovely day!

Comment 24 Feb 2015

Your little rant above is exhibit A on how you're twisting and distorting my previous opinions.

And who cares, other than you? I happily admitted I was wrong about the situation once actual facts came out. Do you get some kind of perverted joy in beating the dead and buried horse?

Comment 24 Feb 2015

Are you obsessed with me or something? You create an account three weeks ago, and out of ALL of your posts only ONE is not directed at me in some way.

And you can say I'm wrong all you want, it doesn't make you right. But please, keep twisting and distorting the context of what I'm trying to say.

Comment 24 Feb 2015

Earthoid - Thats the thing. If you read most of my posts on the Weber issue, I was simply offering a "what if" viewpoint. I never said definitively that Meyer was in the wrong...I said multiple times that we don't have enough info to make that call, BUT, we did have enough info to pause and say hey, there might be something to these allegations. We've all heard the saying "where there's smoke there's fire", it just turns out, fortunately, in this case that the fire was nothing more that a match.

You mentioned that most rational people would let the situation play itself out...and that's true. But that's also part of the reason I was playing devil's advocate in a way...rationality goes both ways. You can't, on one hand, say our staff would never do this and act as if this is the only rational thought while on the other hand admonishing others who were open to the fact that something bad could have went down.

I think it just means that we're mature adults.

You are likely one of the mature adults you speak of, but read through that thread and tell me how mature some of those people who were throwing insults at me are.

Comment 24 Feb 2015

No we are most certainly not...it's called free thinking. I never said what I "assumed" to have happened was actually what happened...only that it was certainly a possibility given the info we had at the time. I was "suspicious" because the circumstances were suspicious due to the limited nature of the info we had...suspicions that were shared by many others. If you want to continue to single me out while ignoring the opinions of others who felt the same way then  "it would take somebody far better than me to help you understand" how absurd that is....you give me way too much credit.

Comment 24 Feb 2015

You did the same thing....you just chose to "assume" that everything was on the up and up. I stated all along that I could be wrong(and would admit it if proof came to light...which I did) and neither side had enough info to make a concrete case for their position. Given the limited info we had, it was just as easy to assume something shady happened as it was to assume everything was handled properly.

And show me when I have attacked Meyer's character...show me. Just because I thought this situation MAY have been handled poorly(I was wrong as it turns out) doesn't mean I thought less of Meyer or any of the coaches. Recruiting is a cutthroat business...I was taking the position that IF this happened in a shady manner that we should be above this and not make excuses for what happened(which many were doing).

Comment 23 Feb 2015

Actually, I've been hear all along, but I'm glad you missed me.

And why not call out the MANY other posters on 11w who also felt that the circumstances COULD look "shady" given the limited info we had? I was wrong in my assumption and it appears Meyer was also blindsided by Drayton's decision. I've moved on...but apparently you feel the need to get personal and bring me into an argument that's been dead for weeks.

Edit - Comment not even 60 seconds old and a member of the hive throws a dv...lol

Comment 23 Feb 2015

No one is calling her a liar, but as others have stated on here who have first hand experience with PTSD, sometimes these individuals misinterpret situations due to their condition. From the unbiased(presumed) witness account...this sounds just as plausible as the version she reported. This doesn't make her a bad person at all, but at the very least it should give the players the benefit of the doubt.

Comment 23 Feb 2015

O'Brien also set the program back several years with the sanctions that came under his watch.

Comment 11 Feb 2015

I still can't figure out why Brad Edwards is still employed by ESPN. He was hired to be the resident BCS guru...aka computer nerd. Now that the BCS is gone, his contributions are becoming more and more ridiculous as he can't use his computer formulas to help with his stories.

Comment 10 Feb 2015

Squirrel - it's obvious we don't see eye to eye on this but it's refreshing to be able to have a conversation that doesn't turn to personal insults when one doesn't agree with the other. While I might not completely agree with you, you've said some things that have made me look at this a bit differently. Props to you for being able to be an adult. 

Comment 10 Feb 2015

Sure you did. You said no one was jumping to my defense. I pointed out that many other feel the same way and the proof you wanted was on other threads. You then pulled the whole "if others do it" argument. That's the very definition of a straw man...changing the argument to one you can more easily defend. 

Comment 10 Feb 2015

and stop with the shady crap

That's why I used quotation marks...I'm not saying it's indeed shady but it's the easiest word to use in the situation to convey what could have happened.

Comment 10 Feb 2015

Your stance has no more supporting evidence then the opposite side.

I've admitted, multiple times, as such.

You're making the same kind of assumptions you are calling me out for with regards to the Cass Tech coach having an agenda. And when did the crux of this whole situation become about Wilcher? The main issue should be what happened behind the scenes that caused Weber to feel the way he did and Wilcher to blow a gasket. Shifting the issue to Wilcher is an easy Strawman strategy and shifts the focus away from what MAY have happened in regards to our staff withholding info from Weber.

Comment 10 Feb 2015

CT might not be helping the argument but don't have to be a homer to believe it was just a ugly situation that happens quite often and that OSU did nothing wrong. Why does it have to be a conspiracy either way.

I agree with most of what you just said here. My main issue was with those wearing blinders and acting like there is no chance OSU did anything wrong at all. The point is, we don't know for sure and never will, but arguments can easily be made for both sides. I'll even go so far as to say that this situation, and others like it, are more common than we think as that's the nature of recruiting in today's world...but that doesn't make it right or mean that you have to like it.

Comment 10 Feb 2015

A "lot of people" are not posting on your account, you are. A lot of people can be wrong, too.

Go re-read any of the 15 Weber threads...you'll see many others who share the same opinion.

You know whats funny? You just recently created an account and every comment so far is attempt to refute anything I have to say. Hmm....

Comment 10 Feb 2015

Vrabel didn't leave the day after signing day. The two situations aren't even close to being the same thing. Come on!

I've said multiple times that I could be wrong and I would gladly eat crow if proven that this was all just an unfortunate coincidence but there are many on here who refuse to accept that something "shady" could have went down as well.

the Cass Tech coach had an agenda. that is the point

So right here it's ok for you to make an assumption(he may have had an agenda but that's separate from what might have happened with Weber's recruitment), but I can't make an assumption based on the info we have? Whats up with that?

Comment 10 Feb 2015

1) Meyer never stated there was no issue...he said he talked to Weber and that we needed to move past the situation. That's a pretty vague statement and doesn't confirm nor deny info was withheld from Weber.

2) You're going to use Chung, who was the ONLY person at that point to say Weber was fine, as the be all end all that everything was ok? No one else made such statments...not Weber, not his family, not his coach, not Birm...the list goes on.

3) Weber only stated LAST NIGHT that we was fine with everything and happy to be playing for Alford...what about all the time between then and now?

You can keep nitpicking my stance all you like but you are conveniently leaving huge gaps in your timeline to try to justify your stance while diminishing my stance.

Comment 10 Feb 2015

1) 2+2=4 is an expression...it means something that is obvious(in this case I use that term loosely)

2) As I have stated before, NO ONE knows what actually happened behind the scenes. But lets look at what we do know

- Urban AND Drayton were working past midnight to convince Weber not to flip to UM

- Urban and Drayton made no mention of Drayton being in the running for another job

- Drayton takes the Bears job...conveniently after Weber signed his LOI.

- Weber tweets about being hurt...it's pretty obvious he was blindsided by this info, info that could have influenced his decision

- Weber's coach blows a gasket(understand why, but he handled it poorly)

So if we look at what we KNOW, you can just as easily say something "shady" happened as you can say that nothing out of the norm happened. I've never once said Meyer isn't a good man or a great coach, but in THIS situation it didn't pass the smell test. My point all along was never to attack Meyer(though many wanted to take that strawman route) but to say that with the info we have, Weber had a right to be mad and we might not want to act like our staff was completely innocent in this matter.

Comment 10 Feb 2015

OK, I was trying to be civil and actually read into the matter further if there were facts that might change my opinion. But since you want to play that game, here we go.

While it's apparently ok to make assumptions that 1) Our coaching staff did nothing wrong. 2) Weber overreacted and is acting like a baby. 3) The Cass Tech coach is not looking out for his players, only himself and the interests if Jim Harbaugh.

It's apparently not ok for an OSU fan to take off his homer glasses and see that 2+2=4 and realize that something "shady" could have happened here with regards to how our staff handled this situation.

Got it. Thanks.