Fair points, I guess I see it the opposite. I would put Kwon slightly in front of Grant even in the little bit that we have seen of Kwon. In watching TE's, RB's running free against Grant in the VT game, it felt like he was either missing assignments, slow to react or just plain slow to cover. In the two plays Kwon played if you watch him on the second play, he knew exactly his assignment and had the TE smothered. He looked to play very solid again vs Kent St in coverage. I agree there isn't a lot of film on Kwon playing so it is tough to tell overall, however, it always feels when a pass has been completed to a TE or RB it was Grants responsibility.
Tim, can you elaborate more on how you think Grant is better in pass coverage? In watching the games it seems to me Kwon is the better coverage man.
I'll just text "BRUTUS" next time I hear it and that should clean the mess right up.
Yeah, It may be wishful thinking on my end that these problems may actually change the way team execs look at players or potential players. I want to believe things may change but a gambling man probably puts money on your scenario over mine. As sad as it is, if he can sling the ball well, someone will probably take a chance.
Cant wait to see us come out and play a soft zone. Letting them dink and dunk all the way down the field.
I kid, but part of me is worried that this is what we will see.
"Unfortunately, that will never happen, and some NFL team will make him a Top 5 pick, regardless of the off field issues"
I'm not so sure about this anymore, with the state of the NFL currently and what teams are going through with players being idiots, I'm not sure anyone wants to touch this kid right now. The NFL use to be about "as long as he can play." That may be changing more and more after this season. If he continues to act like an idiot (which history tells us he will) No team is going to want to pay him top 5 money to be on their exempt list.
Why is there a bow floating in the trees?
Totally agree with team sports being tricky. Especially with football where you have a roster of 85 guys. For a coaching staff to figure out what makes each player "tick" can be difficult. Also, completely agree with your age statement and it made me think about these players sometimes. We ask "how can you not be motivated for a night game in the shoe" and in reality that is us at our age thinking this should be a given as we would be soooooo motivated to get a chance to be in their shoes. However, at their age and the future most have, I think it is taken for granted by them sometimes and they have to look elsewhere for motivation. A night game (as they become more common) just isn't enough.
Read my mind, BvsW! The greatest killer of all used this type of motivation. So much so he would make up things people said about him. Bottom line is it doesn't matter how you get motivated, it just matters that you GET motivated! Its different for everyone.
Yeah, I had a friend who saw it and told me about that...
Holy shit! Not sure how I missed this thread but Oyster, this comment is worthy of a "comment of the year" nod! well done, always get a kick out of you and Earl.
You took the words right out of my mouth! At this point all you can do is laugh. The sure stupidity of this (if true) is comical! So, I'm guessing his story about the first positive test was false?
So a 2 second slant route doesn't change how long you need to hold a block vs a 5 second go route? Given fundamental and technique are the same but if the QB is getting rid of the ball quicker that helps mask poor fundamentals, technique as well as takes the blitzes out of the equation. If the o-line is struggling to hold blocks and pick up blitzes due to poor fundamentals/techniques then if I'm a coach, I would try to make them pass block for as little time as possible. Not just concede that "well we cant do it but by golly we are going to keep trying" then blame it on fundamentals and execution later.
Nice rant! Very Quality! I mean that too BTW. Let it out! Hope you feel better we got a game tomorrow!
Couldn't add anything more to this comment. Well stated! This was the most frustrating part of the entire game.
So you don't think we beat Nebraska in the B1G Title game? The same Nebraska team we beat 68-38 in the regular season? We are 12-0 and ND is 12-0. You are saying there is no way we beat a ND team that needed a missed FG and overtime to beat Pitt? I'm not saying we definitely win but we are favoured in that game.
I was working at a Wedgewood Golf and CC in Powell on their grounds crew when the Superintendent pulled us into his office to watch it on television. Only one tower had been hit at the time and I remember as we were watching, the second plane flew right into the other tower. We couldn't believe what we just saw. As stated above, it was surreal like watching a movie but beginning to realize this was real life. One of the things I remember most was Wedgewood was on a flight pattern into/out of Port Columbus so there was regular noise of planes flying over head. When the FAA grounded all flight, I remember driving around on the golf course and it being eerily quiet. for those on here that were young this truly was a day that changed everything. How we travel. Where we travel. How we look at people. This world, especially the USA has never been the same since that day.
Those trends happen in every program with many great coaches. Why are people (hopefully just crazy minority) so quick to blow things up now a days? Stoops at Oklahoma has gone through huge ups/downs and I'm sure people are happy they have stuck with him. Brown at Texas, I think that fan base may look back on the decision to force him out and regret it. Saban to an extent, is 2-2 over the last 4 games with an iffy game, albeit win over WV. I get you need to win now but to me there has to be some perspective. Switching coaches every 3-4 yrs isn't the answer because frankly you aren't going to find a coach who wins that quickly and can sustain it year in and year out. Sanctions aside, we probably win the NC Meyers first year vs ND. If we had,would this loss be received better? If so why? It wasn't Meyers fault there were sanctions but no one wants to give him credit for taking a 6-7 team to 12-0 (again, sanctions aside) to a MNC. I get tired of the "what have you done for me lately" crowd that always seems to pop up after losses.
Not attacking you just trying to bring up discussion because I do think people will forget this loss in time but its a shame portion of the fan base cant realize that now.
Agreed guys, Everyone states the wins Tressel has had but those people dont want to talk about his shortcomings. I believe Meyer wants to win more then any of us fans do. He is probably the first coach that wants to win in a "fashion" the fans want to win, a beat down on both sides of the ball and almost embarrass the competition, not ever letting up. Losses happen and he isn't there yet but his style of play will happen!
These young guys got punched in the mouth last week. It may actually be a positive as most of these guys were highly recruited players who have only ever had success. Let them get a taste of that bitter loss, let them realize that being at OSU doesn't guarantee you anything. Hard work, discipline and attitude is what is going to bring home championships. It really is crazy just how young the team is right now.
Just cant wrap my head around these people who think Tressel would have never lost to Virginia Tech. How does anybody know? Its not like Tressel has some huge reputation of destroying out of conference foes or beating down inferior opponents. These people would be the same group crying after JT only beat Kent St by a late field goal this week.
Its alright to be unhappy with the way the team performed but to call for Meyer's head or bring back Tressel is ridiculous. Hypothetically, if we fired Meyer, you know who we turn into? Michigan!, ND! We fire arguably a top 2 coach in the country after a 25-3 start, please enlighten me on what coach is going to want to come here? Unbelievable to me these "fans"!
Awesome stuff, Fido. People quickly forget that while Tress has hardware he also had his share of duds. You mentioned the losses but didn't dive into the close calls of inferior opponents i.e. Marshall, Navy, Toledo, etc.. No one can say with confidence "JT would have never let a middle of pack ACC school come into the shoe and win"
Exactly! You can't count this team out yet. I will add also, look at MSU last yr, got beat early, struggled offensively but by seasons end nobody wanted to play them.
As bad of a week as its been for us fans, it could be worse. You could be the QB for Kent St.
I don't think you can make a fair assessment yet on the RB situation. Everyone looked about the same against Navy. But to judge anything on the VT game from a running back perspective is a little unfair considering the fact we didn't even attempt to run the ball. Samuel had a couple of good runs on the options but EZE had a great run and effort to get in the end zone on a run as well. Just don't feel like either have had enough carries to asses who is better at this point.