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Comment 1 hour ago

I don't think the pro teams in the state care if the players they draft are local or not, nor should they.

It surprises me how many Ohio pro football fans are getting bent out of shape that the Browns and Bengals aren't drafting Buckeyes. I bet many are also OSU fans who have no problem with OSU getting the majority of their players from out of state.

Comment 10 hours ago

I thought this too, but most of the kids seem to be playing basketball, which is a winter sport, or track. I don't think the football coaches mind if a kid misses for track practice, plus I don't think spring football interferes with state track meets.

One factor that I think is important is the size of high schools in states like Florida and Texas compared to Ohio. Ohio I believe has 1 high school (Mason) with 3000+ kids, and probably less than 10 with 2500 in the state. Compare that to Florida, Texas, Georgia, etc where you get suburban Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Miami (where a lot of the recruiting is done) schools with whole districts  consisting of schools with enrollments of 2500-4000.

Point being, a school in suburban Dallas or Atlanta with 3300 kids is not going to be hurt as much if a couple of potential baseball players play spring football, or a couple of track guys miss a track practice. With the specialization you see in baseball, and the weather in the south that makes it convenient to practice spring sports year round, some of those kids probably already quit football by 10th grade. It's different than Ohio, where even most suburban Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincy schools have less than 2000 kids. 2000 seems like the magic number to build another school in Central Ohio. In Texas, everything is bigger, they love 3500-4000 student schools, makes the sports teams more dominant.

Comment 10 hours ago

I have gotten into coaching the last few years, I do not have children though, so I have an interesting perspective. I help coach with 4 other parents who coach their kids on a baseball team.

I would say let the kids decide what they want to do (within reason). Specialization shouldn't be forced. I see kids who love all sports, who love to play what is in season. You also have those kids who love one sport, and its their passion. You have to be careful and watch for burnout, but if a 10 year old tells you he wants to be an MLB player, and he would rather work on baseball in the winter than play basketball, so be it.

Comment 29 Apr 2017

I don't know what Jake Butt's other offers were, but he grew up a huge Buckeye fan, but OSU never offered him a football scholarship. If they did, he probably would have been a Buckeye. 

Comment 29 Apr 2017

I would like to think most NFL fans don't really care what college their players come from, and along those lines, most CFB wouldn't care what state their players come from, because, you, priorities. Especially as bad as the Browns have been since their reincarnation.

Comment 29 Apr 2017

I really liked Cook at FSU, but scouts were split on who were better, Mixon on Cook. Cook also has red flags also, three arrests as a freshman, so either way you go there would be criticism. There is video of Mixon's transgression though.

Comment 29 Apr 2017

I would like to see Johnston get drafted, field position is very important in football, and Johnston can definitely flip the field. 

The Australian punter phenomenon is real. I am glad Eric mentioned Wishnowsky, I remember there was some sentiment last year Johnston was robbed last year of AA status and the Ray Guy award, which wasn't the case. Wishnowsky was ridiculous last year as a sophomore. He did have the advantage of a few games at high elevation, but his ability to pin teams inside the 20 and 10 was unmatched. It wasn't about distance.

I am not sure any other Buckeyes get drafted, maybe Brown.

Comment 29 Apr 2017

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2012/4/18/2957962/ohio-state-recruiting-jt-barrett-commits-to-buckeyes

http://keepingitheel.com/2012/05/21/unc-football-qb-mitch-trubisky-commits/

If I recall, it was a chain reaction....Texas wanted Swoopes, OSU liked JT, looks like 4 weeks later Mitchell verballed to UNC...all class of 2013. He was definitely a Buckeye fan. Jason's article are because of he buzz he created when he torched St. Ignatius and St. Edward in the D1 playoffs which earned him Mr. Football.

Yes, Cardale could have beaten out Trubisky, but I think Trubisky was a better fit for the OSU offense than Jones would have been.

Comment 29 Apr 2017

You  may be correct about Mitch, but Mitchell Trubisky was an Ohio class of 2013 QB who redshirted at UNC, won the 2012 Ohio Mr. Football award, and verballed to UNC a few weeks after JT Barrett verballed to OSU. Here is an article from Birm from 2012 discussing 2013  QB prospects. You will see Mitchell, Malik Zaire, and Darron Lee listed as Ohio 2013 kids, and JT Barrett as out of state prospects.

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2012/02/buckeye-board-2013

11w owner Jason used to keep us posted on this 2013 prospect.

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/buckshot/2012/11/mitch-trubisky-is-the-truth

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/buckshot/2012/11/mentors-mitch-trubisky-is-ohios-mr-football

Comment 29 Apr 2017

Ted Ginn had more pub because OSU gets more pub, he was a 5 star, and played for the #1 team in 2006. Ross had 17 td receptions which tied for second in the nation on a team that went to the playoffs, and had 4 kickoff returns for td in his career. The 40 time was just a bonus, maybe it moved him to the top 10 instead of late 1st. They are pretty comparable. Ginn returned punts, and had a healthy career, well until Roy Hall landed on his ankle and hurt his combine and Pro Day.

Comment 28 Apr 2017

He was a better basketball player in high school. VASJ alumni like Clark Kellogg, Golic brothers, Desmond Howard, etc. Won two state titles on the hardwood. As a matter of fact, I probably saw him play basketball, my high school (Cleveland Heights) used to play them every year when both went to states those years (D2 VASJ, Heights D1)

Comment 28 Apr 2017

I should have worded it differently. I believe Hooker is a freak, and has the potential to be an All Pro. Reed was at Miami for 5 years and played twice as many college games as Hooker, and football was his primary sport in high school. I think Hooker has more of a learning curve entering the NFL than Reed did.

Comment 28 Apr 2017

I think maybe they took Peppers a little high, but I have no problem waiting a few years to judge the pick. Drafts are like recruiting classes, they get ranked the day after, then usually they get ranked again in retrospect 3-5 years later.

I look at the draft the way I look at OSU recruiting, signing day is one thing, but I can look back in retrospect and say guys like Darron Lee and Malik Hooker, athletes without defined position ironically are more impressive recruits than most thought on their respective signing days.

Comment 28 Apr 2017

I don't know why people get so wound up over this stuff anyways. I think they could have gotten Peppers later, but no one really knows what his career his going to look like. There were Chargers fans emotional last year because they drafted Bosa and thought he was overrated. I know its the nature of sports fans, but I don't understand why fans just cant be patient, there always has to be a #hottake. Maybe Peppers gets better coaching in he NFL and puts his physical potential to better use.

That being said, my Cleveland Browns fandom ended November 7, 1995. Focuses my energy on the Indians and Buckeyes, so I am not losing sleep either way.

Comment 28 Apr 2017

I did a little projection with Mike Williams, but I felt comfortable with him not being on an actual roster yet since he was a top 10 draft pick yesterday. I figured there was projection involved with Brax also.The other guys have all produced at the NFL level.

Comment 28 Apr 2017

When I said assuming they didn't sign 2 quarterbacks in 2013, I was referring to JT, the other QB in his class who committed a few weeks before him. I assume part of the reason he signed very shortly after JT is because there was some OSU interest on his part, and despite his love for OSU, he didn't want to be the 2nd QB in a class. 

My implication was if OSU ended up with Mitchell in 2013, I believe he would have been a multiple year starter assuming Collier and Burrow came after. 

Comment 28 Apr 2017

Jamal Adams was the best safety in this class. Hooker second. Hooker has potential, but he is not Ed Reed. I get the comparisons, love him, but Ed Reed was special, had more experience coming in, returned kicks at Miami, etc.

Peppers is not as bad as people say. I don't like him in the first, he is more of a second round prospect. I would put Hooker above Peppers as a prospect.