I think at few of those players go in the first round of the NFL Draft. A-list type talent.
I mentioned it before, numbers are very misleading. Money given back to the university is not included. All 50 public universities in Power 5 conferences were self sufficient according to when you factor in the money the programs give back to the university, which to my understanding falls under expenditures in the chart above. The 31 million profit recorded by Ohio State is after giving money to the OSU library. Every school gives money back to the university whether they are in the black or red according to charts like the one DJ posted.
I see your point, but pretty much every football team, even Akron and Kent make a profit. The non revenue sports are the ones that need subsidized.
LOL that was my first thought too
Exactly Tmac. As I stated above, the numbers are misleading. Most public Power 5 programs make money.
The numbers are misleading. Most athletic programs even if subsidized give money back to the university in some form, such as OSU giving back to the OSU library. Texas had a 6.9 million profit but doesn't include 9.7 million given to the university. When these gifts back to the school are factored in, all 50 public Power 5 athletic programs were deemed self sufficient.
According to the data, OSU at 31 million was the second most profitable program behind Oregon at 83 million. Oregon's revenue includes 95 million in facilities gifts from boosters.
Look at their revenue. They spend the second least.
OSU has definitely profited from Bell's commitment. He statements seem prophetic.
Kid has the potential to play on Sundays if he keeps improving on his craft. The raw ability is there
It blows me away how many people forget the Bobby D cash envelope thing. That is got OSU the bowl ban more so than the tattoos.
I have seen recruits from SEC country ripped on message boards for recruiting sagas like his. If his recruitment was more recent, if he was from Florida instead of PA, if his finalists were Auburn, Bama, or Clemson I think people who would have a different opinion of his recruitment.
To be fair, tons of football players play basketball. Not all delay their announcements. When I see players delay their announcements, the first thing some college football fans think is that the player is trying to increase the "bidding".
I disagree. Urban is not going to run Elliott into the ground. The way he has been keeping track of practice reps, the way he talks about building depth, Elliott would be out by middle of third in an early season blowout
The Bauserman jokes do get old, plus excellent point about his actual pitching prowess.
I agree 100%, could not have said it better. I was actually going to say he is the most overrated baseball player of my lifetime. At no point in his career was he a top 5 player in the game. Maybe not even top 10.
Honus Wagner is still probably the best shortstop of all time. I feel Derek Jeter is overrated in a sense. He is a hall of fame shortstop but I never understood the love fest.
On Thomas, he is a better blocker and bigger than Smith, but I believe Smith is faster. I am comparing Thomas to Devante Parker and Kevin White. I would not be shocked to see a Decker or a Bell or a Thomas go in the first with a great 2015 season, just not predicting it.
Ohio State has much more depth and talent than Washington. Washington having 3 first round picks is kind of an anomaly. I have just seen topics like these over the years on boards and I would say 80% of the posts overestimate the draft position of their teams players when the time comes.
Ohio State may have as much talent as any team 1-85 in America, definitely top 3-5 but 4-6 first rounders is a lot, especially for next year's draft. It isn't out of the realm of possibility, I know previous loaded teams like early 2000s Miami and Bama recently have had 4-6 first rounders in a draft.
Over the years, people tend to be unrealistic with draft projections this far out, no matter what team you are fan of. OSU is very deep and talented no doubt, but a first rounder to me means you are one of the top 3.players at your position give or take.
Topics like these are fun to revisit. I see Bosa and Elliott as first rounders. Lee maybe eventually. Jones I do not see as a first rounder unless he starts games this year. I can not see an NFL team taking a qb in the first with 3-5 starts under his belt. I see a lot of players like Vonn Bell, Taylor Decker, Adolphus Washington and Michael Thomas as 3rd rounders. I do not think Bell has the size to be a first rounder, and I do not think Thomas is explosive enough. I do not see Apple as a first rounder yet, hasn't shown enough for me to say he is one of the top corners in CFB. Also not sure if he runs a 4.4.
Basically I think the 2016 2-3 first rounders and maybe 6-7 guys in the top 3 rounds. As I said, the roster is loaded, and I see lots of guys who may be top 10 at their positions which is tremendous, but I need to see another season of play and growth to say guys like Apple, Bell, Thomas etc are first round picks.
Conley and Burrows had the same recruiting rankings as Webb and Lattimore basically. It seems like people seem to forget. I don't care who starts, but I haven't seen anything from Webb or Lattimore that's leads me to believe they are better or worse than Conley and or Burrows.
Neither were horrible last year. We had some poor play from starters in 2013. Burrows was solid last year.
Nailed it. As you said, you education isn't the biggest factor, you can get a degree at anytime. He is trying to increase his earning potential at the pro level IMO
Everything would not be gone. He would still be a great young man with a beautiful daughter and girlfriend and college credits under his belt. He could complete his education that he started. Not saying I don't agree with his choice, just saying life doesn't end in your early 20s because of a knee injury.
I think Smith is a backup safety.
I would rather hear about the Florida days when he won two titles than Bowling Green, although I do find his Josh Harris and first year at BG stories interesting. I would rather hear any of it over ND stories LOL.
Borne played linebacker all throughout high school.