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ccollins0325


Beavercreek, OH (via Columbus, OH)

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  • SPORTS MOMENT: The 2012 Purdue overtime win
  • COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYER: EDIT: B. Miller
  • COLLEGE BASKETBALL PLAYER: Brad Sellers
  • NFL TEAM: New York Jets

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Comment 06 Sep 2013

I didn't mean to down vote you. Buttons are too small on my phone, meant to "up" vote!

Comment 29 Aug 2013

There's one at exit 36 on I-75 in Franklin. You can get it back home and it's still hot (and delicious!) :-)

Comment 23 Jul 2013

Good question...

What if I push them?

If you push them, then they are acting in self-defense which is  within any citizen's rights. If you are belligerent, that does not warrant physical contact unless you are making threats (which would be a different set of laws, altogether). 

If they ask you to leave and you do not, they should contact the police. 

Comment 23 Jul 2013

any action to enter afterwards, permits the bouncer(s) to use reasonable force to stop him.

Again, this isn't a private residence (even then, you can only physically touch someone if you feel/are threatened) - The bouncer is permitted to block the entry to "protect the guests and the establishment" - but not permitted to so much as put a hand on someone's chest to refuse entry. They cannot grab an arm. Both of those are assault. (granted, you'd have to be quite the wuss if you are a professional amateur athlete and whined that someone grabbed your arm - Though the same goes for the bouncer filing charges because he took one to the chest).

The only truly correct answer to any of this is "call the police and protect your guests".

Sorry for taking this beyond the context of this specific incident. But like with most things, prior actions (being removed from the bar) can directly influence what happens after. And may have legal ramifications. Another bit of information we are missing is what was said.

For example, if the bouncers said anything threatening to him, that may be grounds for self defense. 

All-in-all we have absolutely no idea what took place, and we may never know - but isn't speculation what makes college football so entertaining? :-)

Comment 23 Jul 2013

One last bit (and seriously, I'm not being contentious, just enjoying the conversation)...

Continuing to enter after that point makes you a trespasser.

I'm pretty sure that in a public (though privately owned) establishment you are not legally "trespassing" unless you have been issued a writ of trespass from the police. Kind of like a restraining order for a location.

Comment 23 Jul 2013

Doesn't seem like there was anything close to excessive by any outlet.

It doesn't have to be excessive - it just has to be intentional physical contact. I believe they have the right to "ask you to leave", not to "kick you out". That responsibility falls on you (as the guest being asked to leave), or if you won't leave, on the police. 

 

Comment 23 Jul 2013

I'm not sure that is accurate. A bouncer is just a normal citizen. They do not have the right to do anything "physically" to anyone. They have the "right" to contact the police to handle the situation, assist with breaking up fights, protect other guests and to defend themselves.

In the Roby case, according to reports (Dispatch), Roby "was asked to leave a bar after a disturbance, refused, and was subdued by bouncers at the bar before being taken into custody." 

Didn't anyone else see "Rising Sun" with Sean Connery? :-)

Comment 23 Jul 2013

For me the Hyde situation will just have to play out. Not enough data.

With the Roby incident, though, If the bouncers put their hands on him, THAT is assault. The way I see it, he acted in self-defense. They assaulted him, then when he retaliated, he got the blame. Sounds like a setup to me. Any reasonable attorney should be able to get this tossed out.

Side Note: When you are two weeks from starting the Chase, you should be resting - not at a bar.  

Comment 12 Feb 2013

A committee is a life form with six or more legs and no brain.
  - Robert Heinlein

Comment 24 Nov 2012

We did it! Great Season, Everyone!!! 12-0!!! YEAH!

Comment 12 Nov 2012

Looking back on my "Rituals" post from earlier this season... I'm troubled that we may walk into The Game after being 11-0 in the "standard" uniforms, and tempt fate the last game of the year by changing our winning ways. Love the uniforms... not loving the risk factor.

Comment 05 Nov 2012

So, in order to finish 12-0 this year, and win the National Championship next year, we will have to be 26-0. When is the last time that happened? Anywhere?