I don't feel like fans of th pac12 or acc really care about football. Obviously the sec does as well as the big 12. The big 12 has made some really big mistakes in management, namely allowing Texas to rule the roost. At this point I think the big 12 is done as a major power.
Based on the other posts, about 90 seconds.
Agreed re experience but where we do have experience is in go places, QB, MLB, CB, Center. If we had a new QB and MLB I would be a lot more concerned.
It's a team of talent vs. 1 very good and 1 above average receiver. We had 3 go pro last season, I expect nothing less from this group.
This entire conversation is about "talent" not production since the new guys are just that... new.
My point was that if our NC game teams played in the Champs bowl those years. Ie the teams were really good but ended with an L in the bowl game.
Thanks. Just watched.
I know EzE is special, but I think it's going to be really hard not to take a step back in the running game. The guy gets 4 when he should have got -3 or 20 when he should have 7. Man he was good.
I would expect the bowl record of any team to be +/- .500. In theory you are playing other teams at or about your level.
OSU has played in 4 national championship games in the last 15 years and went 2-2. Had they played in the Champs bowl they would have been 4-0.
Oregon isn't really a "power" like some of the others on the list. With that said OSU is probably over .500 against the list which is good.
If you add Michigan we would be below .500 though. I think they still hold a 7-10 game lead on OSU in the series.
There is something great about being the underdog. It's like there is no pressure and the team plays better. In the last 15 years there have probably only been +/- 20 games where we were not favored. It's fun getting an opportunity to be the underdog, especially with this team. Think about all the talent on this team and we're a 9 point dog? Love it!
By your logic Alabama is not a top tier coach because they had to fend of Texas 2 years ago. That doesn't make sense, if I were a coach I would entertain any offer to help bolster my contract negotiating position.
As a football coach I would have very little concern what FSU's athletic budget is as long as it's comparable. Let's say FSU's budgit is 15th yet they still win national championships regularly, wouldn't help the argument that they are a tier 1 team?
USC (106M) has lower athletic department revenue than FSU (121M) (2014/15)
Agree - If you want to take it a step further I would argue this is why very few if any of the teams on that list should have buyouts after the coach is at the school. Why the hell would Florida extend Muschamp (2x!!!!)? It's not like he's going elsewhere and even if he tried they could counter.
I may not be Donald Trump and the negotiating table but I don't understand a lot about college football coach's contracts. I feel like the schools lock themselves in when don't need to. I get the initial contract but I don't get the extensions after 1 good season unless it's a national championship level season of which there are 4 coaches who have had them and 3 who I would extend today (not Miles).
From my 40 y/o desk jockey perspective with no inside info I would rather have Dobbins if I had to pick one. Both look great but Dobbins reminds me of EzE which I could take in perpetuity.
Best boom gif I've seen. The shock wave is nasty.
I would like to see it to because UH will never come to Ohio and take kids like Jordan Hicks, Texas could and has.
I get your point, but can you even argue that you would trade the talent on the team this year for that year? I love John Simon but Joey Bosa was better as a Freshman than John was as a senior and honestly I don't think it was close. I expect Nick to be significantly better than Simon as well. Maybe Gibson and Tyquan are a wash, and Cam was a great player but he was the best player on the team.
Austin Mack, Gibson, Smith, Victor etc etc etc vs Posey and Dane? Really not that close.
O-Line - Isn't worth even debating.
QB - Is the only area where 2009 had a talent advantage IMO.
We are thin at RB and DL.
With that said, going into 2014 you knew you only had 1 superstar on the team (Bosa). Everything else was potential. We were all excited to see Bell, Apple, Thomas etc, Braxton wasn't going to play, EzE really hadn't played much etc etc. Most had never heard of Lee.
Honestly without looking I don't know if Hooker or Booker is a linebacker or a safety. By the end of the year I'm sure I'll know.
In short the team has potential which is all you can ask for.
Maybe you haven't watched the last 30 years of football, but to call FSU 2nd tier is not exactly logical.
What is the difference between OSU and FSU? We have more fans? They have had tons of success, probably more than us over the last 30 years. There is no way we poach a head coach from FSU if they are revved up. If you were a coach why would you leave success at FSU for OSU? You play an easier schedule, have more talent in your back yard, and (probably) have an easier time getting kids in.
There would be no getting him out of Austin.
I agree with your premise but the list is much larger than 4. You can't name 5 big name moves in history where a successful head coach was poached from one of these schools to go to another college team. (and no Urban doesn't count because he was out)
Alabama, OSU, Michigan, LSU, Florida, Miami, Texas, Oklahoma, USC, Penn State, Nebraska, Florida State, Georgia, Tennessee, Notre Dame
Nothing you said was a lie, but I counter with - Anything you can do at Houston, you can do better at Texas. I rest my case. Houston will never be Alabama or OSU, Texas was and will be.
So who do you suggest?
I thought this would have been post number 1 and ended the conversation. Seems like an easy one to me.
Put them in the East and you get a guaranteed W ever year. At least we have a shot in BB some years. It would be pretty hard to talk smack after their team gives up 55 to Bucks annually. And no, I don't think the best Duke teams could beat the worst OSU teams.
+1 for ragging on hipsters.
My upvote was for this:
Watching grown adults and drunk students fumble their way through this poor man's haka is embarassing.
I'm sorry but I think it's lame. Doesn't really fit at OSU where we are never the underdog.