I would have to disagree about Apple. It took him a little while to recognize how fast the game was played. You could see that in the beginning half of the season. After he made that adjustment, I think he played above average and was a big part of the defenses' reemergence.
I believe I read a comment about Bosa being able to travel to VT for the game. The comment pertained to him being a leader and contributing from the bench during the game. Technically he is eligible for the game but suspended by UFM if that makes any sense.
The reason Cupp had his offer pulled was b/c he did not inform the MSU staff that he was visiting for FNL's. The other committed players from MSU that attended FNL's that you mentioned, all communicated to the MSU staff they were going to camp/attend FNL at OSU. Therefore their offers were not rescinded. This is what I have heard and read about the Cupp situation. I still agree with you in regards to Dantonio, I have lost respect for a coach that I admired for quite some time.
This was in response to Buckeye3m"s post.
Without looking it up, I think Corey Smith is over 21. He would be the only player out of that group that would be old enough to drink. The only reason I think Smith is over the legal age is b/c he transferred from a Juco college and basically red-shirted a year before playing. This should be his third year in the system if I'm not mistaken.
Quick double-check, and StxBuck is right. 4 total DB's counting EGW and the departure of Dean.
No one said Dino needs to understand what we think or take into account our opinions. But the key word is "opinions". As Silk stated this is a message board, hence the free thought and opinions of our 11 Warriors community. By no means, did I think Dino was going to apologize or re-affirm Cupp's offer simply b/c the prevailing opinion on an OSU message board shines a negative light on his "Old School" recruiting practices.
I would say the OSU staff has determined he is lower on the pecking order, therefore not the best fit or a take right now compared to other WR's on our board. It's been stated in numerous articles that while he does have an offer, it is of the non-commitable type. With the current interested WR targets in the 17 class, we can be extremely picky and possibly focus that "ship" on another position of need in 16.
JEH, where did you hear Cupp tried to contact MSU's coaching staff about the visit but was unable to get a hold of anyone. I've read numerous articles but never came across this tidbit of info. If that is the case, I feel even worse for Cupp. I really hope he lands on his feet and accepts an offer he feels comfortable with that allows him to grow athletically and academically at a school that appreciates him. Dantonio really lost a lot of my respect due to this unfortunate situation. On the bright side, I heard Cupp performed admirably during FNL which he can hang his hat on and continue to camp and get more positive exposure in the future.
This was directed towards TTUN@SS@SIN,
I do agree with your post, however, Washington was actually a bad example to use in your scenario. He gained almost 50 lbs over his senior year and arrived at tOSU around 295 lbs. The OSU staff was extremely surprised but knew he still had the versatility to move around on the line. On a side note, that was one of the meanest DL class of recruits that have rolled through OSU. Just imagine if Noah Spence, Washington, Se'Von Pittman and Tommy Schutt all had several years playing together getting after the QB.
I'd have to disagree when it comes to Brionte starting next year. Even though Samuel has recently been taking reps at WR/HB, I believe the starting job is his to lose. Weber will also have a say in this competition along with the new RB, slash hybrid recruits. I wish the best for him. Also this will be his fifth year in the program (next year after Eze makes the jump) and there is always the possibility of transfer or his decision to hang up the cleats a la Chris Carter and the TE Moore.
Think you meant Weber instead of "Webb" but it appears the OP got to the mistake quicker than I did.
Anyone off the top of their heads have Giddens' measurements, ie. his vertical, wingspan and current height/weight? I know Google is my friend but it's late and I'm lazy. Thanks in advance 11 Warriors.
Everyone seems to forget that it was only two years ago (2013) when ND was playing in the National Championship. I stress the fact that I said playing "In" the BCS Championship game. Not playing "With" Alabama since the score was indicative of the talent discrepancy between the two teams. Tradition and academic prestige seem to be the biggest pulls these days in my opinion.
Edited.....seems other posters had my same train of thought when it came to ND playing AL in the Championship in 2013.
The fact that you are stating a fact and not opinion about a hypothetical situation is ironic. What is your answer if the tables are flipped and JG commits to the good guys but in the last month before signing day after another visit to Rutgers decides to decommit and stay home. We then miss out on all the highly ranked QB's on our board and are "Screwed" as you put it. I believe you accept a commitment from Wallace for example and continue to build and nurture that relationship between OSU, Wallace, his family and our coaches. As Urban always said, a commitment basically means you are in the Top 3 of the respected recruit. You also emphasize Wallace changing his mind in your post. This happens on a pretty regular basis with how young these kids are. Just look at the recruitment of Torrence Gibson. While I believe he never committed to another school there were many ups and downs in his recruitment and numerous times he changed his minds on visits and his top schools of choice. In this day and age, recruitment is so fluid and has changed greatly even over the last couple years. Kids are getting offered at a younger and younger age and the media is having a field day; reporting every tweet and comment from these kids. Minds will undoubtedly change numerous times and it is something Urban and the staff have already adapted to. Last recruiting class had more than a handful of flips to the good guys.
Sorry for the winded response. All I'm saying is if OSU has the opportunity to take the 3rd ranked (247) Dual Threat QB in the nation, I don't believe they should be worried about upsetting other QB recruits or other repercussions that may come along with Tristen's commitment. Now just b/c 247 has him ranked 3rd in the country does not necessarily mean he is top on Urban's board. I would rather avoid another situation like the DeSean Watson patiently waiting debacle and I believe Urban and his staff have learned from that predicament.
But the risk is too high to miss out on both Tristen W and Jarrett G. It was mentioned in an earlier post that we don't want to be in a position to miss out on both and settle for an OSU QB that may not be up to the quality and skill that Urban demands. I don't consider Tristen option B while we are recruiting Jarrett G. His physical attributes are outstanding and he would be a perfect system QB for us. Plus he runs a reported 4.4, which simply can't be ignored. I will admit I have not seen a ton of highlights on Tristen to see how he spins the ball and the touch he has on all passes. I'm going off of pure physical makeup and potential. I simply disagree with your opinion, doesn't mean it's not valid or wrong.
Actually Keyshawn Sr. has had very positive views and opinions when it comes to tOSU. He has followed Michael Thomas' career and has been very proactive - going to games and supporting the OSU coaching staff on Michael's development. I don't think he would be against his son going to OSU at all.
Not sure what priority Hamlin is on our CB board, but having the kicker from his HS team walking on couldn't hurt. Watching Hamlin's highlights, I would say he is a legit top 10 national corner. Looks like PSU is in the driver's seat per 247's Crystal Balls but there is always plenty of time to make up ground.
Gotcha, thanks for the insider information.
I must have missed that news. Any links or sources to confirm? Thanks in advance.
Difficult to give Miller the "Nod" when he hasn't thrown a ball with velocity in over a year. It's going to take some time to get back to game-playing shape. I would personally have to go with Jones. He has all the momentum, 3 - 0 in big games and is the healthiest of the 3 currently.
If we are going to show all the playoff mistakes and miscues of a certain player, somebody should upload a video of the countless times he was the first gunner down on kick and punt coverage. He made some spectacular plays on special teams. Obviously, this does nothing in support of your argument about his big-play WR ability - noting the few videos that were posted.
Maka, please provide quotes and articles in which he stated he was sick and tired of hearing from Buckeye fans on twitter. That is the first I've heard of it. Not to say it may not be true, but again I haven't heard anything directly said out of his mouth. Thanks.
Add in Joel Hale switching back to the D Line to add experience and toughness, specifically at the DT position.
Per LGHL, he will also have the title of "Assistant Head Coach" along with RB Coach. So I would have to disagree with the "taking of a lower job" here at OSU. Excellent hire by Meyer and Alford already has previous relationships with Weber and Walker.
The difference when UFM flips is kid is simple. The recruit was usually just offered a prestigious scholarship to tOSU. He wasn't sitting on a scholarship offer for months and then at the last minute decided to jump ship. Stump and Hamilton are two perfect examples. They flipped when they first received their OSU offer not after sitting on it for months. This is usually the case when it comes to UFM flips. The recruit has been waiting on their dream offer from tOSU and it finally came to fruition.
I still wish the kid good luck and a healthy college football career. As many have said this does open up other spots that can be taken by kids who really want to play for tOSU.