I've only seen 3 or 4 games but agree with what you said. This team looks very good, they can run, they can shoot, and they can totally wear out their opponent. I hope Mavunga can get back soon because the one weakness without her appears to be rebounding. I also think they can make a deep tourney run, and hope that they aren't in UConn's bracket - they have no realistic shot at beating them as we've seen the last 2 seasons. But if they somehow get upset I like the Lady Buckeyes' chances against anyone else.
I predicted this after the Rutgers game. That was an embarrassing display, and they matched that choking away a game vs an equally bad opponent that they completely controlled for 39:30. This team is, and has been totally lost. It's beyond any worst case scenario even thought possible before the season began, and it should NEVER have happened.
Thad has nothing to say about big picture because he knows he won't be part of it. He is going to step down at the end of the season.
I'm still pretty sure it will be Chris Jent. I can't imagine he would have come back without a guarantee that he would be the next HC. I think the hope from the administration was that Thad would bounce back this year and maybe 1 more, then turn it over the Jent on an upswing. Instead we got... this...and the switch will just happen earlier than any one wanted and in circumstances that they didn't necessarily want either.
I am certain he hates losing more than any of us do, and yeah he's pushing buttons, but they aren't working. And he's done similar things before. He has benched guys, swapped out guys in the line up etc. It just looks to me like he's gone stagnant on the imagination side - he's become predictable and that's getting his team beat. And yes there is absolutely no way he can return next season.
I'm curious what signs you are seeing that make you think he is "fighting to the end"? This season has been a complete and total shitshow from the start. He hasn't done a thing to get this team out of ruts this year. What I am seeing is the same old thing I have seen for the last 2-3 seasons now, we get a lead anywhere from 5-15 points, and then he calls off the aggressive play and tries to coast to the finish. I know you are a Thad supporter - and I was too until this season, but HE is the root of the problem. Again I feel very bad about his physical condition, but it's gotten to the point where he just can't do it anymore. It's pretty bad when I can see what's coming and I am no longer surprised when it actually comes to pass.
This was his "prove it" year - he had a veteran team with everyone back, except for the role players who he told to leave. As weak as this conference is, this team should have challenged for the B1G title, not ended up playing (and likely losing) on Wednesday of the B1GT.
"Think this thing through" sounds like he realizes it's over. It was a great run for the first 10 years, and then unfortunately it's just slid into oblivion. I feel really bad for him that his dropfoot condition is so bad, but it clearly has impacted his ability. He knows it's time to go, I think he's just now starting to process the reality of the situation.
I was pretty young, but I remember that team being kind of lazy and aloof - a lot like their coach. My dad HATED their body language that year, almost like they were being put out to have to show up to games and play. Seems kinda like this year.
Final Fours are fun!
Yeah. money is not an issue at OSU for either of the high profile jobs.
Eldon can't carry Thad's jock. He was a complete bust every single year. He did bring in some monster talent, but he never did anything with it. Never won a B1G title, never got to a Final Four, actually I am not even sure if he ever got to an elite 8 in his 10 years. Thad has at least averaged a B1GT every other year, 2 FFs, 3 or 4 E8s and 5 or 6 S16s. It's not even close. Thad is the best coach we have had since Fred Taylor, and he might be the best ever. But he just can't do it anymore.
I refer to the Eldon era as the 10 years that a dark cloud hung over campus.
I have watched for decades, in fact I have been a season ticket holder since the last 2 years of O'Brien. I cannot watch much this year. I know how games are going to end, and I just don't feel like investing myself in a team that does not care. It would be different if this team didn't have talent, or was a bunch of young guys - like last year. But this is a veteran team with lots of highly recruited guys. They just do not care. So why should we? I can stomach watching a team lose games to better teams, but when the losses are coming because of a lack of effort and hustle, they just don't deserve the following. It needs to get better and it needs to get better NOW. This is totally unacceptable at Ohio State.
Thad makes almost $6 million
Why not foul? You are asking the wrong question - why the hell were we fouling at all? Once you change your mindset away from playing straight up, it's really hard to pull back and not foul. Play it straight up - defend the 3, make them try to take a tough 2 pt shot. If they make it, OT, if not, you win. The foul strategy was stupid, and cost them the game.
Be thankful you didn't live through the end of the Randy Ayers debacle. 6-22 was bad.
I think the reason why is because they started to think instead of play ball. I fault Thad for calling for them to foul. Just because you have fouls to give doesn't mean you need to use them. Once you start the fouling game it's really hard to pull back. That was an epic choke job in season full of shocking choke jobs.
As I said after the Rutgers game, that could very easily have been the last win. I watched most of the game tonight and while I thought for a while we might fail to choke the game away, in the end that's exactly what happened. The only potential win left now is Indiana who is just like we are, twisting in the wind with no idea how they got where they are. I never thought I'd say this, but this is worse than Jim O'Brien's last season. If anyone had any doubts about Thad's exit - tonight surely had to show you the light.
I don't consider 9-3 sustained success. Neither does OSU. Remember we fired a guy in the '80s who was stuck on 9-3. PSU isn't Purdue bad, but they aren't close to OSU/UM (in their heyday) good.
Long story short - the B1G is total garbage this year. There are 3 tourney locks right now Purdue, Wisky, and Maryland. NW looks like they are in good shape, but let's be real this is still NW and they could easily tank at the end and find themselves out. MSU can make their case this week - if they beat Purdue and Wis they solidify their spot. Michigan is teetering on the bubble - again they have a couple games coming up that can play them in or out.
When the dust settles I think 5 teams get in. And if some crazy team wins the B1GT then they should replace a B1G bubble team. This conference just does not deserve bids to go very deep this season.
And all this CBI nonsense talk needs to stop, there is no way OSU would consider that ridiculous event. Hell we might not even be eligible. 15-17 is a real possibility.
Way too much purple, where does that even come from? Why not red white and blue which appear to be the marketing colors the city has chosen as of lately (as opposed to maroon, gold, and white which are the official city colors - ugly though they are)
I like the inclusion of the arches and the contrasting color font of US in Columbus, but it's all mostly lost in a sea of purple. There should also be a star over the U, if they are truly keeping with the current marketing theme of the city. All around I give this effort a "D" grade and wonder how in the world it got approved like this?
No, Penn State is not going to be a long term challenger to OSU. Let's look at history - for decades OSU and M ruled the conference, and every so often another team (Iowa, MSU, Illinois) would have a few decent years, then back down to obscurity. When PSU joined there were people who thought they would break into that upper tier with OSU and M - never happened. Hell, Northwestern has won as many titles as PSU since they joined. Of all the lower tier teams, I'd say Wisconsin is probably the one who has had the most sustained success for any period of time, and it's still very rare for them to upset OSU. PSU has to be a very tough place to recruit to - it is literally in the middle of nowhere, and I don't see them being able to be a consistent challenger at the top.
My point exactly - we have more individual talent that almost any other team, but there is just no team chemistry. And if people watch this team and think they are seeing effort out there, I guess I just don't know what to tell you, I don't see anything close to it. They walk the ball up the floor, are stagnant on offense, and usually don't get loose balls or 50/50 plays. Last night was a perfect example, the last 3 minutes of the first half they fell totally flat, missed FTs, missed assignments on defense, and a horrendous final offensive set after a time out. You could tell by the looks on their faces they were a defeated team.
In a league as weak as the B1G is this year there is no way in hell this team should have 9 losses. And there are more to come. It is clear to me that Thad has lost his mojo. I feel bad for him, I know he has an awful, debilitating medical condition, but it has gotten to the point where it is severely impacting his ability to coach. There is no way he can be retained next year.
I was at that game too. I really enjoyed the game and the atmosphere at Kinnick.
I am baffled by where folks think they see effort from this team. I see none. If there were effort they would be winning these close games instead of just wilting away in the last 3-5 minutes of games as they always do. This team has more individual talent than almost any other B1G team, maybe every team except MSU, but they are not playing like they even care if they win or lose. I could tell at halftime this one was over. We had 2 or 3 chances to tie the game up, or take the lead late in the first half but what did we do? Missed the front end of a 1 and 1 - TWICE. Get juked out our jock TWICE on defense. And then that possession where Matta took his use it or lose it time out, we end up with the worst offensive sequence of the game to that point, having to heave a wild shot as the shot clock ran down.
This is by far the weakest the B1G has been in years, maybe in decades, and OSU is already guaranteed to finish no better than .500 with 4 games left to play. That is inexcusable.
I'm just glad Denzel Valentine doesn't play there anymore, it seemed like we played at their place on this same day every damn year he was there and every year he'd have his best game of the season.
Not expecting a win, but this MSU team is awful, not as awful as us, and Izzo is going to use their loss to us in January as motivation. It would be great to see us win, but at this point I'm so numb that I completely expect a loss, and even getting BTFO won't bother me.