WSU is getting a lot of mileage over a poor performance by OSU last year. We showed up for 5 minutes in that game and could have easily won. Our guys looked past them, plain and simple. WSU was not a better team than OSU last year. Yes they were good but OSU would win that matchup 7 out of 10 times at least. The beauty of the NCAAT is that it isn't a series, it's a 1 game deal and upsets happen. And as bad as OSU has choked in the B1G they would absolutely be 31-0 with Wichita's schedule. In fact I'd say there are a dozen teams that would be.
Absolutely not! They might get in due to their name, but this team does not deserve a bid in any way shape or form.
Honestly when we lost at home to Iowa following the frantic comeback at MSU this season was doomed. Clearly this is a very mentally weak team with no leadership. I know people want to fawn all over Aaron Craft, but the dude just cannot lead a team. He looked like a bad high school player out there the last 2 games. He and Smith talked all off season about how this was their team and they were going to lead. Well, you led the team to it's worst finish in the Thad Matta era. Congratulations. I will not be sad to see those 2 guys leave the program. Let's just get the next 3 losses over with as soon as possible and move on to next year.
This "outrage" at court rushing is just stupid. This has been going on ever since basketball was invented and it will continue forever. No matter what the media, or fans of certain schools who claim their fans have never done it, who are all wrong btw - EVERY school's fans have done it at some point - it is part of the fabric of the sport. Of course Penn State was going to rush the court - I knew with 2 minutes left all 700 fans in attendance were going to be on that floor. They hadn't beaten OSU in over a decade, and now they swept us. That is completely unfathomable and their fans have every right to rush on to the court, they probably won't beat us again for another 10 years. Let them have their moment of jubilation.
As a student at OSU from '89-'92 when we were much stronger in basketball than football I have to say I have a completely different view of SJA. While I was there I hated the place. It was old, cramped, hot, took forever to get a hot dog or go to the bathroom, but it was LOUD. SJA was probably the best home court advantage in the country. With all that metal and wood every single sound reverberated around the tin box. Students were literally 3 feet from the end line and surrounded the lower bowl. When we moved to the Schott it did get less loud, even though there were 6000 more people in there. The game that brought it all back for me was, of all games, an NIT game. The one vs Cal. SJA was packed to the rafters and ROCKING. OSU blitzed Cal early and I was close enough to see the completely dazed looks on their players' faces. It was a familiar look of all the teams that played against OSU there in the early '90s.
Now, I will say the atmosphere in the Schott has improved by putting students not only under the basket, but also back behind the team benches - that should have been done from the start. I still miss the atmosphere, loudness, and character of SJA and will be sad to see it torn down. I liked having a basketball specific arena. But times change and the Schott is building some character, I just don't ever see it getting to the level of SJA.
It doesn't get any worse than getting swept by Penn State. I just can't even fathom that it happened. We had beaten them 18 straight times. 18 straight. Most of those by more than 20 points. I've been saying since January there is some kind of cancer on this team, these are not basketball issues, they are personnel issues. I think we win at IU, lose to MSU, lose on Thursday in the B1GT and lose the first NCAAT game. End the season with 10 losses for the first time in a very long time.
Well tonight's game made my decision very easy. Won't be going to Indy this year. For the first time in over 10 years we are going to have to play on Thursday. Right now that game would be vs Penn St. I don't like our chances of getting past them in a 3rd game either.
I was really against the B1GT when it started, and honestly I still would prefer a full double round robin over this event, but it has become an OSU dominated tourney. I call it The Ohio State Invitational. We have been in more than half of the finals and have won 6 of them. MSU is next at 3. I am sort of hypocritical since I have actually attended this for at least part (and generally all) of it for the last 7 years. I highly recommend it, especially when it's in Indy. It is a very fun event. I am still on the fence about going this year though.
I think what Boeheim did was great. Duke has benefited from flopping for a long time and this was an epic flop that stole a game. When a ref makes a call like that it is clear they are not going to let you win the game. I say kudos to Boeheim for not taking it quietly. And I thought his post game presser was excellent, He called out the refs on that play, and took some not so veiled shots at the ACC. It just might help his team down the line, and he did not cost them the game Saturday night - that one was over at the moment that call was made.
They have been using this video since B1G play began and I like it. I wish they'd fix the number of B1G titles though, we have 5 B1GT titles too. We should also count the 2 regular season "vacated" ones. And I count the "vacated" Final Four too, so that number is 11. We have to redact it for our official media guides but we can still reference them in videos like this.
And that second title is way overdue, it is only a matter of time before it comes.
I was wondering the same thing re: Lucas. He was before my time, but I have heard plenty about him from my dad and uncles who have been watching OSU basketball since the '40s. I have also heard Lucas speak in a small setting - he has an amazing brain and if tNCAA had such a thing as academic all-Americans back then he'd surely have made it all 3 years (and 4 if they gave it to freshmen)
I still don't understand how NW stared the whole melee and ended up with 2 more FTs and the ball after the end. Crafwford shoved Q before Q shoved him and should have also gotten a T. I also can't believe there was a "fight" in a Northwestern game. Northwestern??? really? I guess it is fitting for this bizzare-o year.
I think what we have here is a collection of 12 teams with very little separation. Nobody is all that great, and even Illinois at the bottom isn't godawful terrible. We have all grown used to 2 or 3 teams at the bottom of the B1G standings that are losing games by 30, but that isn't happening this year. This has made for an absolutely maddening season for OSU fans as we are losing games that have been auto-Ws in the past. The B1G Tourney could be very interesting this year, and I really can't see any teams advancing beyond the round of 16 unless they benefit from some upsets across the bracket from them.
ugh how in the hell did we lose to this team? This season is making me insane!
You hit it pretty much on the head. This season has been the most frustrating one to watch under Matta so far. They legitimately could still be undefeated, and really only the games @MSU and @Minny are "legit" losses. Every other loss we had a double digit lead late in the second half.
Overall this team needs to keep playing fast and force the tempo of the game to speed up to more of a transition game. It seems like every single game we get a 10-12 point lead with 7 minutes to go, then we decided to try and run the clock out. WTF? In basketball the aggressive team wins. We have got to stay aggressive, and not play so passively once we get a decent size lead. Starting doing it again last night too, we are just lucky Illinois is hot garbage.
On the plus side ADV has markedly expanded his game from last year. He can still be deadly from 3, but now he has added the penetrating drive. The charging call he picked up in the first half was total BS, and I think he is going to be a big scorer next year. Same with Loving. That kid just has superstar written all over him. He is not afraid to mix it up and from day 1 he has looked comfortable on the floor. We have to win out now to have even a change at finishing in the top 4 and getting that all important Thursday bye in the B1GT.
This guy, the dude in the cape, and the really creepy looking dude with the necklace of a zillion buckeyes need to GTFO. I really wish TV cameras and idiot fans would stop giving them attention. They are nothing but attention whores and just need to go away.
I remember the first time I saw Craft, it was the exhibition game his freshman year, and he was diving on the floor for loose balls in a game we were up by 40. I said at the time fans from other B1G teams are gonna hate this kid for 4 years. I didn't know that hate would go national. But it's quite amusing.
The Iowa game gives me a little hope that the tailspin might be behind us, but there is a lot of work to do for this OSU team to get into the tourney. I hope we can finally put away an opponent that we should beat handily, and did beat handily at their place in January.
As a side note - you have the all-time series info incorrect. OSU has an 86-83 lead in the series and is the only school to have a +.500 mark over the Boilers.
I'm happy they were able to go 2-0 on this road trip, but it really makes the home losses to Iowa and Penn State, and the road loss to Nebraska even more maddening and perplexing. I still have to wonder why it took 5 losses for this team to right the ship? Craft and Smith talked all offseason about being senior leaders. They both had very good games last night, but if they expect to win the B1G, and they should, they have to win out, they cannot take a night off anywhere.
Not even close. This was just a game between 2 teams in a tailspin. One of them was destined to not lose. There cannot be a turn around this year since the Penn St game. If this team really had turned a corner they would have put PSU away when they were up 11 with 7 minutes to go, not lose to the last place team for the first time in over a decade. AT HOME. Think about that. Lost in the Schott to Penn State. That wasn't even in the realm of possibility just a few days ago.
This team is a shell of its former self, and I really don't see anything showing they have turned a corner. To be sitting at 5 losses at the midway point of the B1G season is absolutely unacceptable. They need a vast improvement from what I saw yesterday to be able to win at Iowa, and at this point every game is a must win.
He really has been disastrous for OSU. I completely disagree with the article's comment that his promotion and raise are deserved, he should have been fired years ago. Under his watch was the worst scandal in OSU Athletics history. His response to it and handling of it worsened a bad situation. He was humiliated at a basketball game a couple of years ago, basically getting, deservedly, booed off the court during a halftime presentation. It was so bad that he has never again made that kind of an appearance. He is incompetent and should have been removed, not rewarded.
I love the grey uniforms, especially the ones with scarlet letters. Probably because I was in the same academic class with Jimmy Jackson, and those are what I think of when I think of OSU home jerseys. We should NEVER wear white, it is not one of our colors.
Are they going to pair them with scarlet shorts though? Not sure if I like that.
and we better start getting back to this domination soon or I am going to lose my mind.
State Championships belong in The Shoe. When I was a freshman I watched my school win a State Title there and it was awesome. There were probably 35-40k people there and it didn't feel cavernous at all in the stands. My sophomore year we won the state title in basketball, and it was one of the 2 years they moved it to Dayton. To this day I am bummed that we didn't get to play in St John Arena. Every kid in Ohio dreams of playing in the Shoe or the Schott and that is where state titles should always be held. Add in that Columbus is centrally located and it is a no brainer.
Marc Loving is absolutely going to be a superstar here, maybe as soon as next year, and he is probably the most polished freshman we've had here since the Thad 5. It was clear that the pressure of the situation got to him late in the MSU game. I was a little surprised Matta didn't sub him out for a possession in the OT to settle him down a bit. Would rather he not have had the ball on that last possession feeling like he needed to take the shot. But Matta has a knack for going with the 5 on the floor when they are in a rhythm and it generally works out.
I think OSU is going to crush Iowa tomorrow, considering Iowa does not play the 4 corners style. It wil be a chance for us to run the floor and no team in the B1G can match us there.