Red state, Blue state, Purple state.... NOPE Ohio is a SCARLET STATE! Go Bucks beat TTUN!
I don't think TTUN is good. Their schedule has been very favorable and even then they have lost the only tough games on it. They were never in the game at Utah and Utah is not a very good team. They needed literal last second heroics to beat Minnesota and Indiana. This year feels a lot like Hoke's first year. They got the bounces to go their way more often than not, but it could all be a house of cards. If the real OSU shows up in AA on Saturday we should win by 2 scores. If the version that showed up vs Sparty shows up it will be a tight ballgame.
And regarding the whole "do we need them to be good" Abso-fucking-lutely NOT! I hope they continue to suck forever like the have for the last decade.
Pretty fitting that all of TTUN's greatest contributors are dead and buried in the ground in a cemetery. Just like their program.
We aren't beating Memphis on Friday if we look like we did the last 2 games.
I'm not sure what growth you are seeing, but I have been there in person for all 4 games plus the exhibition and this team is NOT getting better, if anything we got worse from Friday night to tonight. Foul shooting was very good the first 2 games then dove off a cliff the last 2, and that has nothing to do with the opponent. Our offense has gone completely stagnant and we are playing with absolutely zero sense of urgency in tight games. There is no excuse for OSU to have dropped either of these last 2 games, and more importantly, after already having gotten upset last Friday, this game should have been a "prove it" game and nobody but Loving did. I don't know what the cause is, but they better get their heads screwed on straight now otherwise this team is looking at a sub .500 season which should NEVER happen at OSU.
Tonight was a complete and total disaster. Never had the lead, against a mid major, at home. Only even tied it up twice that I can remember at 25 and 55. No flow to the offense, another horrendous night at the line. After having never dropped a home game to an unranked mid major we have now done it 2 games in a row. Wow. Friday night vs Memphis is going to be very, very ugly.
That opening goal by the Crew was a masterpiece. It reminded me of the way we used to practice jump balls in basketball (before those became obsolete). Our coach always looked at those as scoring opportunities not just a chance to get possession. It's great to hear that the Crew regularly practices scoring off those opportunities as a goal like that can set the tone for an entire game. Would love to see them win the MLS Cup in our home stadium in a couple weeks!
I think we are in trouble this week as well. Zeke has already checked out mentally with those post game comments and if I were coaching he certainly would not be starting this week as his head is already at the combines. I have to wonder about the other juniors who are about to leave as well. The one thing that works in our favor is that there is a stark raving lunatic on the other sideline and I honestly don't think he has a clue how to get his team prepared for this week.
I also think there has been some division in the lockerroom all season and it was easily masked by the weak opponents we had been facing. For whatever reason the coaches decided not to start the best QB until more than halfway through the season. Players know who the best players are, and I am certain some of them resented the fact that the coaches stuck with Cardale so long when it was obvious from the get-go he was not capable of running the offense at the level JT was. All of that is under the bridge now and doesn't matter, so either this team will completely fall apart and lose or will figure something out and get the course corrected. I am not very confident they can do that this week.
This loss was pretty easy to get over. We got thoroughly outplayed and out coached the entire 60 minutes. It was beyond frustrating and maddening to watch it happen, but once it was over I was completely and totally over it. MSU was clearly the better team last night, and we are lucky the score was even that close. If it hadn't been for their 2 turnovers we would have been shut out.
This was the first time I have ever seen us play so tentative under Meyer. I don't know if it was the conditions or what, but we looked like we were afraid to use even half the playbook on offense. The few sideline shots that I saw our coaches looked confused and frustrated, not focused and intense like usual. It was a strange game, and when we end up in a strange game with Sparty, that is generally when they upset us.
But, I would much rather lose to MSU than lose in the playoffs or to a lesser program. They are the only B1G program that is on the same level as us, and while it's shocking to lose any game, this one is much more tolerable, especially the way they completely controlled the LOS, the clock, and the field position. We just got Tresselballed by his best disciple, and we unwisely tried to use the same formula against him.
Go Bucks, beat that team up north!
Tonight was pretty alarming. Sub .500 from the line is not only not acceptable, it is damn hard to do if you are even half concentrating. Our guys clearly thought they were just going to walk away with another easy W and never really bothered to show up. When it looked like we were going to take a sizable lead into the half, we just kind of quit playing and let them close it to 2. And then late in the second half, we played with absolutely no sense of urgency whatsoever. I thought at the under 8 time out we'd come out, go on a run and put the game away, but we never did. These guys almost played like they had a 15 point lead and were content to just run the clock out. I'm hard pressed to find a more shocking upset.
And while the officiating was bad both ways, it shouldn't have mattered, this should have been a 15-20 point win for OSU. The technical was the absolute low point for this crew though, and then they awarded the common foul 2 shots? WTF? The guy was 25 feet from the basket with his back to the basket, and it was the 6th foul. The technical, which never should have been called, was the 7th, you can't retroactively give a 1 and 1 to the 6th team foul. And he sure as hell wasn't shooting when he was fouled.
Whatever number he wears, he is guaranteed to get the loudest roar in the stadium tomorrow - and maybe the loudest ever all time. I just hope he has the game of his life tomorrow and leaves us all amazed like he has done so many times before. And then does one better next week. And the week after that. And in 2 more playoff games.
Great job as always!
And regarding our budding rivalry with MSU - I really like the contrast of our scarlet and their green and would love to see this become the one game each season where both teams wear their home uniforms. It would be awesome to watch a game with us in Scarlet and Grey and them in Green and White in both Columbus and East Lansing.
Last night's game was such a mismatch it is impossible to draw any conclusions, but they did play better than Sunday. There was no second half letdown like there was Sunday, and there were fewer turnovers, granted Grambling didn't pressure us in the backcourt like MSM did. I do not like the FT shooting. After the Walsh and MSM games I thought maybe we had finally figured it out, but nope. I like Giddens a lot but 0-5 at the line won't cut it when it counts. Grand staff has looked much, much better in the 2 real games than he did in the Walsh game, maybe it was that initial shock that caused him to look so out of place so often. And Lyle, wow he can make some beautiful passes - I hope he stays at least a couple years, it will be fun to watch his game develop.
I also love the aggressive, offensive minded approach to this team. That has been sorely missing the last 2 years. Now we have any number of guys who can not only step up and score, but who like to drive the ball to the basket.
I think the 13 point line is probably about right, and considering everyone will be dialed into this one, it would not surprise me if OSU more than covered it. If Cook is less than 100%, and I'd say odds are he is less than that, MSU really has no shot - they are a long shot with him at 100%, but if we get a few hits on him early we should be able to control them.
And I am thoroughly unimpressed with the other team from the mitten state. They needed a lucky brain fart from Minnesota to escape, and then had to score a TD on the last play of regulation to take Indiana to OT. They just aren't that good and I think OSU rolls them big time in AA.
I think this team is going toe fun to watch. We have a lot of scorers, and guys are not afraid to go to the basket. Tate looked tremendous. I was shocked how good his outside shot was today, I can't ever remember him even attempting a 3 last year and he made those 2 today and looked good doing it. This team will probably take some lumps along the way on the road in the B1G, but I would not be surprised if they are in the thick of it come early March.
I thought the same thing, both today and in the exhibition vs Walsh - FINALLY making FTs. And Grandstaff, aside from those 2 quick fouls looked more comfortable out there today. He really looked lost quite a bit in the exhibition game.
This doofus is still alive? Who knew? lol I guess when you become so irrelevant in your career you start taking potshots at those who actually ARE relevant.
The University has absolutely no shame. This is a disgusting money grab and there will be suckers out there to fall for it. Every time I see something like this it reaffirms my decision to never again buy a ticket for an OSU home game. One day this is all going to crash down on them and they are going to be shocked that people are fed up with it and out of money to waste on unless shit like this.
Yep, and now the tide has turned again. Like everything CBB is cyclical. Back in the pre-TV days people stuck watching a slow down team had no idea that real offense existed. Now that every game is televised, those dinosaurs just won't survive. As the previous poster pointed out, the decades prior to the shot clock were the highest scoring time for CBB history. At first I was skeptical about removing the shot clock, but after giving it more thought and looking into the past I realize it is the best way to drive up scoring.
I agree with you that scoring would likely go up if the shot clock were taken away. It drives me nuts that coaches like Bo and his ilk bnascially play keep away instead of basketball and only truly play offense for 5 to 8 seconds per possession. The point of the game is to score and if coaches didn't have some arbitrary time limit they would design offenses to score as soon as possible with ball movement, screens, and dribble penetration (a totally lost art now). This godforsaken "weave" that has become so prevalent is killing the game. If we got rid of the shot clock I think we would see a lot more games in the 80s and 90s than we do in the 50s and 60s, and coaches that try to slow it down will be phased out. Sure there will still be some of them, the Princetons of the world will be out there, but they will be far and much fewer in-between.
I'm OK with most of the new rules, however there are 2 that I don't like.
#1 - the arc under the basket. Just get rid of it and not allow charing anywhere in the lane. Why make the officials have yet another judgement call, and since the women's game is still using the old arc there are 2 of them on the floor now, which makes it even more confusing. Kind of like the few years before the women's game moved the 3 point line back to where the men's line is.
#2 - taking away time outs from teams. That was the wrong thing to do. Take away 1(or 2) media time out(s) from each half, but not the ability of the teams to call time outs.
I also find it funny that the "official story" is that the travel between Champaign and Columbus was too much for him and led to his death. Yeah, I don't think it was the travel as much as it was living in frat houses in Champaign and Columbus that did him in.
He spoke at the Buckeye Bash before the 2010 RB and he had a great quote. He said he had fond memories of the 1997 RB, and before the game had a moment with Gee, who told him (I am paraphrasing bit here) Good luck coach, I have always liked you, now go win this game. Coop asked what if we don't win? Gee replied I'll still like you; I'll miss you, but I will still like you.
Congrats, Coop! You drove me nuts for at least 2 games every season, but this is well deserved. I also think it says a lot about his character that he has stuck around Columbus and been a positive ambassador for the OSU program, starting immediately after he was fired. It would have been very easy him to bad mouth the place and cut off all ties, but I am glad he and Earle have become the "elder statesmen" of the program.
This has been the game that has worried me more than any on the schedule. Weird things happen when we play in that shit-smelling wind tunnel they call a stadium. I am a little more at ease now that JT has taken the reigns, we can probably pound them to death if we want to - kind of like that 2011 game where we honestly didn't even need to throw any passes and still could have walked out of there with a win. I hope for a dry day, much less chance of fumbles. I know better than to hope for calm winds there, especially in November.
My years at OSU coincided with that awful losing streak to Illinois, and I can still remember being absolutely shell shocked at both outcomes in the Shoe vs them - in 1990 when they used a forward lateral after a blocked FG to beat us - a play that would certainly be overturned today (and happened the same day as Colorado's 5th down btw). And 1992 - my God talk about the most bizarre outcome of a game. My uncle and I calculated in the stands that if things had gone "normally" we would have won 41-7. Instead we lost 18-16, to this day I still cannot believe we actually lost that game. It was awesome to see Eddie get his revenge against them in 1995.
Oddly 2007 doesn't bother me as much because we still made it to the NCG and even with the bungled review we still had the lead - and it was in the 1st quarter. The fact that we couldn't stop them on that last drive, and Tressel called that unbelievably stupid time out when they were about to punt, I kinda view that as a "we got what we deserved" kinda game and in the end didn't hurt us one bit. Still won the B1G title, still went to the NCG. And Illinois did go to the Rose Bowl that year.