All I can say is there are a ton of positives to take away from this situation. First of all, different coach, different team, and different style will make this year different from all those of the past when we had a freshman QB. We have a ton of potential play makers sitting there chomping at the bit to get the ball in their hands. We have speed everywhere, and we have a defense that should be vastly improved with Ash and Johnson coming in. JT is young, but should Braxton have left he more than likely would have been the guy this year anyway. It's time to see what he's got! I refuse to accept this attitude that the season is a lost cause. We are going to score a lot of points and win a lot of games. Also, remember this is Urban's guy. He brought him to OSU for a reason, and it wasn't to sit on the bench. Have some faith people! I'm excited for this year, and you should be too.
Better than a Ray Small hope. I'm sorry that was terrible, but I had to do it.
You guys are being silly. How is he a piece of trash? From what I see, the guy has incredible football skills, and is probably the best chance to help them win after Brian Hoyer is done, however that may be. If you're judging him by the media storm surrounding the actions of a 20 year old kid who won the Heisman trophy, then shame on you. Think about that situation, and if you can even remotely relate to that kind of attention, you would probably have a different opinion. As of right now you guys sound like the kid on the basketball court who takes their ball and goes home because someone you don't like got put on your team.
From an economic standpoint, there is almost no point in trying to go to The Game as an average alumnus. My opportunity cost in going to The Game, is probably about 3x overkill. Meaning, $150/ticket is insane to watch little dots move an invisible object up and down the only reasonably sized thing you can see in the stadium. I would much rather take the trip down to Cbus with my friends, go to Eddies or any other bar on campus, watch the game, get schwasted, have fun, walk around, and talk to people, than be asking the person next to me "What the hell just happened?" every 5 minutes, all for about 1/3 the cost. No thanks.
As Buckeye fans, optimism about recruiting is something we need. That being said, not every year is going to be a homerun in terms of recruiting. There is a huge discrepancy between optimism and reality. The team currently has the talent to play with and beat anyone in the country, but when it comes down to executing in big games they haven't stepped up. Out-recruiting Alabama is going to be nearly impossible for the foreseeable future considering what they've accomplished. That's not something we can/should worry about. The truth is Alabama got beat last year by two teams last year, who on paper have much less talent. Plain and simple, the Buckeyes MUST win big games for recruiting to step up to an elite level.
I hope Kenny G gets some sort of shot in the NFL, regardless of team. The experience is invaluable, and if he gets to start one day, even better. The guy wants to coach, and I'm sure eventually he'll do that at OSU. Best of luck KG13!!!
Ryan Shazier everybody. 4.36 is blazing speed for a dude that size, and considering he has a bad hammy it's downright incredible. After watching the way he plays, flying all over the field, I wouldn't be surprised to see NFL teams look to use him in dynamic ways by making him a LB/S hybrid.
You are 100% entitled to your opinion, and I respect that completely. Now, for the reasons that I already laid out, it will never happen. You won't see them getting paid anytime soon.
I'm definitely not being an asshole. I think you might be confused about how the world works. When you provoke someone, they are more than likely going to come back at you. That would make you the asshole for being so pompous in the way that you worded your original question. You might as well be this guy:
As far as your opinion carrying much weight as mine, how much time did you spend in collegiate athletic departments?
I hate the NCAA. I don't think they should make anything off of these kids. I also don't agree with the stranglehold they have over the system or the rules they create.
However, you don't get paid as a student-athlete, because that's what you are, a STUDENT. Your college education is being paid for by an athletic scholarship. On top of that, everything else that comes with you being an athlete is paid for; meals, coaching, training, tutors, clothing, facilities, etc. The list goes on forever. All of this stuff costs lots of money. You can come up with whatever number you want, but for the purpose of this conversation, let's say that $75,000 a year/ per player is the price tag to pay all of those costs, and that's just at an average university in terms of tuition cost. So now the question becomes, do we pay all players the same amount of money? Or is different for the starters, or the stars? Can we promise kids coming out of high school more money than other schools?
I just don't see how you can justify paying players additional money when a lot of rookies in the NFL this year will make $420,000, and that's if they make a roster. That's 1% of the guys coming out of college. The best of the best. Do you really think these kids should be paid more money than the resources that are already being spent on them? I just can't see it.
Look man, if you don't want to be insulted, don't pose your questions in such a douchey way. You may as well have said "Who the hell are you to have such an opinion?" This has nothing to do with class. This has to do with being real. I beg you not to be such a hypocrite.
Gotta read between the lines there. What I'm saying is that they obviously should go to college. However, you don't get paid to be a student-athlete. It's that simple. I see both sides of the argument, but the overriding factor in all of this is they're still not professionals in what they do no matter how you look at it. That's why I said there are other options for these kids if they want to be professionals right away. So while I appreciate your sarcastic JLaw GIF, try to think about it from a logical standpoint.
Well, I didn't play college football. However I did play college baseball and also spent a lot of time with a lot of football players at Ohio State when I went to school there. So I've seen how these kids are treated, the opportunities they get, and how they are "compensated". That's how my opinion was formed. Which I'm sure is a lot more than you can say. Also, I don't feel like I need to justify my opinion to someone whose username is a boner joke. Are you ten?
That's what it's supposed to sound like. No one forces these kids to play football. You should come to a school like Ohio State for hopefully two things; get as much exposure as possible before going to the NFL, and to learn how to be a functioning member of society as an adult. And saying "It's just like the NFL" is one of the most ignorant things you can say. Remember, these kids don't have to go to college. They can always go to the CFL for 3 years and get paid there if they want to. Most of these guys don't realize how spoiled they really are, and the opportunities that they have. Sorry that a free education, unlimited training equipment and apparel, free meals, tutors, etc. aren't enough. Join the real world if you have a problem with that. You have to remember, 99% of these guys aren't going to do this as a profession, and you don't really hear it coming from them that they should get paid.
Had to go with the '10 Rose Bowl. Definitely not the world's biggest Terrelle Pryor fan, but the feel of that game was electric. That was OSU football.
I'm very aware that he would not have played this year. What I was saying is that he is fortunate to have the opportunity to use a redshirt due to the current make up of the team. Not really sure what the point is that you're making. As stated in my comment, this would be an "if" situation.
I think the guy that benefits from a redshirt the most will be J.T. Barrett. If Braxton leaves this year, that's the guy I believe will be the next QB. I'm not knocking Cardale Jones, who has great size and athleticism. However, that seems to be a recurring theme at QB. I hate to say it, but we've had a couple guys in a row who are athletes playing QB. This kid is a true QB who can run, not the other way around. I love the fact they went to Texas to go get this kid. Kenny G would attest, I'm sure.
I believe he said that because they are losing 4 starting OL, arguably the best RB in college football, arguably the best LB in college football, and a playmaker in Roby. There are others, but I can't think of all of them right now.
They've recruited well, and have a wealth of talent at almost every position. However, to get everyone on the same page, and find your monster players to fill those rolls in 1 year is extremely difficult to accomplish.
That being said, if there's one guy I trust to put together a better product than we have right now it's Urban Meyer.
They should give gifts according to each school's tradition. Some examples would be:
Michigan - Turd Sandwich
Oregon - Nothing. They have a Nike factory on campus. That's a gift.
Notre Dame - Posters of next year's preseason top 25.
Florida State - handcuff lock picks
Ohio State - Since we had to vacate the 2010 season, the NCAA should vacate the money they made off of that team and divide it among the players on this year's team.
I was actually feeling really down about going to the Orange Bowl until I read that opening. Appreciate those facts, Nick.
I voted for Fickell so hopefully he would read that poll and say "Yeah, I'll make a great head coach. See ya guys"
I think there only needs to be 2 stages. Anger and acceptance. They got flat out beat by a team which had no business being on the same field with them given the buckeye defense played just marginally. The anger needs to be directed at Fickell and Withers, and they need to be held accountable. Keeping Fickell in the first place was I'm sure a move made to please some athletic board because he's a former player. The guy has more talent at his disposal than he knows what to do with, and still can't even put together an average defense. That's NOT Buckeye football.
Acceptance will come when that situation is rectified, and we bring in a stud D-coordinator who knows what they're doing. We've got the horses, we need the trainer.
From what I can see, it's plain and simple. Defense does not come down to a bunch of stud individuals. OSU has at least as much if not more talent on defense than any other team in the country based on recruiting. Michigan State took a bunch of 3-star guys and turned them into the best defense in the country. After watching that game it was extremely clear to me that defense comes down to coaching, and how well that coaching allows them to play as a cohesive unit.
If Fickell is still there next year, then I would really have to doubt the direction Urban is trying to take this program.
Borges is the perfect candidate the next head coaching job at scUM. I believe we are seeing a trend there in terms of competency, and he's right in line with that negative correlation chart.