Once upon a time there was a football team whose QB got hurt before the season and the entire kingdom was sad. The new young QB who replaced him lost a huge game at home to some Hokies. The kingdom was really sad. Then the young QB led the team to 10 wins in a row. The kingdom was happy except he broke his leg in the game against the evil skunkweasels from up north. - so the kingdom became sad again A hero came in riding 12 gauge shotgun, and he led the team to a conference and national championship. The kingdon was ecstatic and the king proclaimed "this wasnt even supposed to be our year - next year is our year!" The kingdom was euphoric !!!
I don't know how egregious his sins were behind closed doors, but I am extremely disappointed with the unceremoniousness of Ed's dismissal. I mean, it's not because we attended practices that we know what a great offensive line coach he is. It is by the tributes given him by the head man. And now, not so much as a "we wish him well, he did a great job as architect of the slobs, but we've decided to go in a different direction ? Hard to understand.
this is the best explanation I've heard for the Warriner separation. Personally I've regarded him above all other coaches since he was the architect of Meyer's oline driven team concept. Winning the national championship under that philosophy only endeared me to him more.
But your explanation is very insightful and helps me a ton. Yes, Warriner was given a two year lease and performed so well he got the keys to a very expensive sports car. The car sputtered at times and now someone else gets a turn. Returning to the oline would be regarded as a failure all the way around.
the part that remains a mystery to me is, how the CEO didn't see this trend unfolding, and why he didn't step in to help.
Thanks Iron. It's true that balls were sailing.
I also remember times personally when a defense had our number in high school or college, the QB was in a hurry, even when he wasn't hurried, because he anticipated that he would be hit from previous plays. It takes a special breed to shake off those plays and deliver a strike. And man did Watson take some hits and deliver some strikes Monday night.
I'm sorry if this sounds like a smart ass response , but armchair QBs , this is for you. have you ever played QB before ?
If you have, and you know that you are going to be railed from the right side, you will glance downfield initially, with enough time to hit a 9 yard curl. (Which, if you will refer to theozone.net "buckeye breakdown : creating space" posted last week, you will see that the design of the route tree had four wide all running right at a defender and curling in front of them)
if the curl is not there, which is quite possible since it is designed to curl in front of the defender, you are more than likely feeling the heat from the right (which resulted in sacks or hurries more than ten times vs Clemson, Michigan and Penn State)
and if you ARE fortunate enough to have someone open, and you DO make the throw, there's a very distinct possibility that it will be dropped.
so, will your confidence in your scheme and receivers be shaken over a season of this ? Will your feet get happy and cause hitches in your mechanics ? Will all of this affect your accuracy ?
yes, yes, and yes. Now people, rewind to JTs mechanics and accuracy in 2014 when the scheme, the line, and the receivers worked. As Cardale said a week ago Saturday night "it ain't the QB".
Thanks - I feel much better. You did a good thing today
I think that Mike Williams played last night for Clemson because he goes up and gets the ball like a pro. Blocking is important. But not at the expense of a guy who can get open and catch the damn ball. The whole narrative we've been fed about WRs around here for two years has been shear bullshit
I would have liked to see what you would have written about him exactly two years ago. Think what you want, but that offensive line was prolific in 2014. Once the new RB and QB got their legs, the offense took off and the line became the heart of the team.
I didn't watch one damn play last night. I was so pissed last year that the most talented team in the country was mismanaged and sitting at home for the playoffs, that I refused to watch another Bama championship, and watched the Sugar Bowl win over Bama on dvr instead. Last night, I continued the tradition by watching the Championship win over Oregon.
Sorry DJ that your pick lost, but for those of us within a three hour radius of Tuscaloosa, Clemson's win was a tremendous relief. We won't have to hear "SEC baby" or listen to 70 year old men comment in grocery stores about how OSU can't hang with the Tide when they see our block O hats and t shirts. Now they are just one of the other three that made the playoff and didn't win it all. It's a good day today!
Thank you Qujo
guys can bitch but they can't argue with the facts. Thanks for laying them out there so clearly. I am in the camp that says it was QB coaching.
For three reasons -No development for :
Taylor Martinez at Nebraska,
Cardale Jones in 2015,
and JT Barrett in 2015-2016.
Wow, I guess I have a soft spot for what he did with 4 new oline starters in the championship year. But I doubt he would want to revert back to that role at this point
Wow - thanks DMiller. I hope guys can consider this in tempering comments on this site in times of stress (like in-game streams)
Noah Brown's departure burns me. When we saw what he did against Oklahoma, we bought the coach speak about how his injury in 2015 was the problem with the passing game then. C'mon man (as they say on the world wide leader). We had Michael Thomas, Zeke and Nick Vannett and you're going to make excuses ? Shame.
sorry, I'm salty, and like a broken record. Because here I sit, 3 hours from Tuscaloosa, surrounded by waving flags, bumper stickers, and decals carrying a script A on about 1 out of every three cars, I started a tradition last year of watching the 2014 Sugar Bowl and Natty in protest because I knew damn well we had the best team in the country. I will continue this until we're back.
992, not sure what your answer means, but I think you're saying that when you post here or anywhere, it's fair game for anyone to see. I get that. Let me rephrase. Is there any evidence that players have checked this site?
Does this have something to do with Noah Brown declaring for the NFL ? I have no idea what he did, but if the University will reinstate him so that he can rejoin the team, it has to be apparent to him that tOSU is a solid path to the league.
Serious question - when guys wish a player good luck when he transfers or declares, is it a wish sent to the universe, or do we expect that players check this site ?
I think it has more to do with a philosophy that says you need to be a great blocker to start as a WR on this team. I think the only negative is that he would flourish under a kevin wilson offense.
Yeah we won the NC in 2002, but it felt different after that. When we played USC in its prime for two consecutive years you'd go in hoping we would be competitive, butnot expecting to win. And we were blown out once, then they beat us in the shoe the second year. I expect to win every game with Meyer.
but clearly that is because of talent. As we saw a 3 game disintegration of the defense in 2013 and now a two year ineffectiveness on the offensive side - the scheme and staff don't match Alabama. So no, Meyer is not close to perfect - hell, he blew arguably one of the best single school NFL draft classes in history last year with bad decisions and questionable game plans and play calling. But it IS different. We still expect to win.
What a cunning linguist you've become !
That's just ignoring the facts. Find me a QB under siege throwing with precision - like a Cleveland Brown or San Francisco 49er QB. It just doesn't happen when you're under siege waiting to get hit as a rule rather than an exception. There were 11 tackles for loss against Clemson and it was just as bad vs ttun and vs PSU. When there weren't sacks, WR were busy dropping balls. How many drops were there vs Clemson ?
Tampa, great questions that I also have. But seriously, go to theozone.net and go to the article "Buckeye Breakdown:Creating Space".
Given the fact that Cardale also regressed in 2015. I think it's more accurate to say that the passing game regressed overall.
To get a feel for the construct of the passing game, go to the film study in theozone.net. Some patterns were designed to run at defenders and stop, others were designed with two and even three receivers in areas where it made life easy for zone defenders.
Thats the way it looked all year, but I thought receivers were making wrong reads or running wrong patterns. They weren't, it was by design.
Well, he's saying "hey, Meyer and I talked 3 weeks ago" to answer the Texas fan base that must be saying "did you see the pile of shit this guy contributed to last Saturday night- what are you thinking ?"
QB coach is my concern more than play calling - I agree with you !
The guy is going to beat Drew Bree's big ten TD record. What else do you want the guy to do ?