I think Ohio State will win, but I'm a little less optimistic than most here. I have been talking with friends who are Rutgers fanatics and they seem convinced that Rutgers has a better front 7 than VT. They have watched film on both teams and told me Rutgers simply has more talented pass rushers than OSU has seen all year. Of course they also admitted Rutgers has zero talent in the secondary and will probably get gashed for several big pass plays on Saturday night. That being said, they are totally convinced that Rutgers will commit completely to cover zero, shut down run game, and essentially concede that they will get beat on some big pass plays. I'm no Rutgers expert so I do give some creedance to their claims. However, fans often overestimate their teams talent and I'm skeptical of how good the Rutgers front 7 really is. I think Gary Nova and their commitment to cover zero make things interesting, but Urban and our superior talent pull it out! OSU 35, Rutgers 21.
True. The first bye was great because it allowed us to regroup and prepare the offense for Cincy & Maryland. The second not so great. And I love that PSU and MSU both get a bye week before us. PSU I'm not so worried about because we simply have more talent, but I don't like giving Dantonio and his D two weeks to watch film on us. I'm sure they will also add some new wrinkles on offense as well. We can win in East Lansing, but Herman better give them some looks we haven't put on film.
How Florida State fans/Jimbo think the conversation went down:
James Spence Authentication broker: "Jameis, would you be kind and sign 1,000 pieces of sports memorabilia?"
Jameis: "Absolutely, I would love to spend the next 3 hours signing your mini footballs!!"
JS Broker: "You're so generous Jameis! I will donate 10% of proceeds to the local children's hospital!"
Jameis: "That would be swell Mister! Golly, I sure am happy I could help out!"
How it actually happened:
JS Broker: "Jameis, I'll give you $1,000 if you sign some memorabilia for me. Easiest money you ever made."
Jameis: "Sounds good. F--k her right in the p---y?
JS Broker: "What?"
Jameis: "Just give me the mini footballs bitch"
JS Broker: "Ok"
Can anyone tell me how many spots remain in this years recruiting class? I'm a little concerned because we have 17 commits and guys like Torrance Gibson, Josh Sweat, Damien Harris, Matt Burrell, Lawrence Cager, Garrett Taylor, Mike Weber, and several others are still possibilities. I know someone like Sweat is a longshot, but there a still a bunch of high profile guys on Ohio States radar. Is there going to be enough room to have more than 20 commits this year? I only ask because a few months ago every expert was saying that this years Ohio State class would be smaller than most other years.
I will always wonder how 2006 would have turned out if we had a true 2 guard. Jamar Butler played out of position that year at the 2 because we didn't really have anyone else. If only we had a guy like Diebler on that squad. We missed all those threes against FL and if we had just had slightly better shooting from the arc it would have made a huge difference. Oh well, it was still an amazing season and FL had a ridiculous amount of NBA talent in Joakim Noah, Al Horford, and Corey Brewer. Crazy to think that Noah/Horford are both top 25 guys in the NBA now.
It blows my mind that Coach Matta has been here for what seems like an eternity, but he is still only 47 years old! Personally, I think Matta is on his way to becoming Ohio State's version of Tom Izzo. I could see Matta coaching another 20 years until his mid-60's and becoming a legend OSU fans will talk about for decades to come. I'm not saying this will happen, but I would love to see him at the center of OSU basketball for a long long time. He is going to get a couple titles eventually, and when he does he will finally be recognized as a top 10 college basketball coach! We are in good hands! Go Bucks!
I talked to Nick yesterday on the phone. He got me 300 channels and even threw in Big Ten Network to seal the deal. Great guy!
Herman isn't going to get offered a Top 25 job like Florida and no amount of time as our OC is going to change that. Ed Warriner has coached at eight different schools since 1984. He was a very successful offensive coordinator at Kansas and has been one of the top offensive line coaches in the country for a long time. He has never been offered a good HC gig. If a school like illinois offers Herman the HC position he would take it no questions asked. Opportunities do not always abound and even mediocre coaching gigs must be seized. Herman may very well end up HC at a school like Florida one day, but not until he has proven himself extensively as a HC somewhere else. Herman may stick around for another year, but not much longer.
Harbaugh is going to have his pick of some very attractive NFL jobs. The NY Jets head coaching position will be available after Rex Ryan finally gets canned. Harbaugh would need to find a QB in free agency or maybe take a shot at a guy like Jameis Winston and try to mold him into a more mature player (if that is even possible). I'm still waiting for the Dallas Cowboys to collapse, and when they do Jason Garrett will be the scapegoat. That may be the most attractive position, but I'm not sure the universe could handle the egos of Jerry Jones and Harbaugh under the same roof. Would make for a great reality show though.
Excellent point! For me, there are five Big Ten coaches who I think are great for the conference. Urban Meyer, James Franklin, Dantonio, Gary Anderson, and Pat Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald consistently does the most with the worst collection of talent in the Big Ten. I know Fitzgerald loves NW, but I think he could be very successful if he took over a program like Illinois. It would be a rebuilding project, but he would get better recruits and probably have a bigger football budget. And despite Wisconsin's debacle vs. NW, Gary Anderson is a good coach. He just needs to get a decent QB in Madison.
To be determined Big Ten coaches: Randy Edsall, Kyle Flood
Guys like Ferentz, Jerry Kill, Darrell Hazell, Tim Beckman, and Kevin Wilson are complete no names around the country. Some kids in Big Ten country may remember that Ferentz had good teams a decade ago, but kids in the south/west don't know the guy. I know it will be difficult, but these schools need to up the ante and throw some serious money at the top assistant coordinators from the SEC. There is an abundance of innovative assistant coaching talent in the SEC, but very few attractive head coaching jobs that will be available in the conference. Iowa, Minn, illinois, Indiana, and Purdue need to fork out more money and hire some new blood that can recruit other regions. I know it will be hard for these athletic directors to offer big time salaries, but it is worth the gamble considering how much football revenue would increase with a program in contention.
At 6-5 regular season Muschamp gets canned for sure in my opinion. After a 4-8 season in 2013, Muschamp really needs to go 7-4 or better. Nobody expects Muschamp to beat Alabama or Florida State, but he is expected to beat the likes of Mizzou and South Carolina. Florida is a very proud program and SEC teams like Kentucky, Ole Miss, and Miss State all look like they have a brighter future. Right now Florida has the 9th best team in the SEC. They might even be the 12th best team depending on how high you regard Arkansas, Kentucky, and South Carolina. This is not acceptable for a school that was constantly in the title hunt under Urban Meyer. Personally, I expect Florida to extend and offer to Dan Mullen after this season. They need to snatch him up before he takes another big time job.
I agree that the top 4 teams in Big Ten East all have bright futures, but other East games against the likes of Indiana, Rutgers, and Maryland won't be nearly as daunting. Then throw in a few Big Ten West games against the likes of Purdue/illinois/minnesota and you got a manageable schedule. Not an easy schedule by any stretch, but look at the schedule of SEC West team Arkansas
#5 Auburn, #6 Texas A&M, #3 Alabama, #13 Georgia, #12 Miss State, #15 LSU, #11 Ole Miss, #24 Missouri
That is games against SEVEN top 15 teams and eight games against Top 25 competition. LSU's schedule isn't quite this difficult, but that is what Les is looking at any given year. And then he still has SEC title game on top of that. The Big Ten East may be on the rise, but it is going to take awhile for Penn State/Michigan to reach the level of a Texas A&M, Auburn, Alabama, or even Ole Miss (which has recruited as well as anybody in recent years).
No, they are horrible but I lumped them in with Iowa/NW/MD as lower tier Big Ten teams. So for one post they gain prestige through association. Probably more than they deserve though....
I hard originally typed "cupcakes" but changed it to average. I didn't want to offend those who still hold Iowa in high regard or those who think Indiana is good because they beat Mizzou (even though they lost to bowling green).
I actually considered focusing on the Harbaugh brothers instead of Miles. But Jim and John have both been so wildly successful in the NFL and I'm not sure either would want to leave. I actually think John would be more likely to take the Michigan job. Jim hasn't won a Super Bowl and being a super competitive person will drive him to stay until he does. It also probably drives him nuts that his brother won one at his expense.
Will agree with this. I hate the huge plays, but at least I don't have to watch us get killed via dink and dunk passes all night long like last year. That was basically just conceding yards. I still want to see some serious improvement, but I'm glad we are making the offenses work for everything they get.
I agree 100% it takes time. And having veterans who have started multiple years is huge. I just wish Eli Apple & co could pick it up as fast as bradley roby or Chris Gamble did. Then again, Roby/Gamble had the benefit of being complete freak athletes. Miss those guys.
Thats what always puzzled me. I remember him having a good first year, but then he declined senior year. It was really that Navy game senior year that hurt him on the depth chart. He was a solid guy though.
I applaud your faith in Ash, but attributing all the big plays to mental lapses in the secondary should not provide any sort of consolation. What would you rather have?
Option A: A good athlete with poor mental awareness
Option B: A mediocre athlete with good mental awareness
I will generally side with option B. I'm glad that the big plays were not due to our secondary guys being overwhelmed athletically, but these mental lapses are still a serious problem. Stefon Diggs is going to have a record game this weekend if these mental errors prove to be a problem again.
I agree that the performance thus far has been pretty inexcusable. UC has some pretty good WRs though so I don't think it was feasible to completely shut them down. As others have said, UC passes for a living and this was our first game against a pass heavy offense. So I think improvements will be on the way. That being said, making Chris Moore look like Sammy Watkins is indefensible. I know Ash said all three plays were due to mental errors, but that doesn't make it any less worse. I also wonder if Gareon Conley will get more playing time after Eli Apple looked like he was running a 4.8 forty on that one play.
On a side note: You may want to take Anderson Russel off that list. Those are elite OSU defenders you listed and a safety who got replaced his senior season probably doesn't deserve to be listed next to AJ Hawk.
For me the biggest factor will be starting field position for Cincy. We helped Michael Brewer out a ton by giving him short fields to work with in the 1st half. Gunner Kiel is a young QB and while he is very talented, I don't think he is going to lead four 80 yard drives. He will hit on some big plays, but those are containable if Cincy is starting at their own 20 or 25. I just don't want Cincy starting at their own 45, hitting one big pass on 1st down and then practically being in the red zone already. Lets make this young QB prove he can lead a 12-15 play drive and consistently throw the ball accurately with Bosa in his face. Gunner may very well throw the ball 50 times, but not many QBs can deal with that type of volume under pressure and still avoid throwing a couple of interceptions. Maybe ole Johnny Football could, but this kid ain't johnny (hopefully I don't eat these words come saturday). Go Bucks!
Lol, I don't think anyone is trying to make a serious report out of this. I know I wasn't. I was just looking at the numbers and wondering what factors might have contributed to so many players leaving or being dismissed, etc. This is not a dissertation man. It is just a random Thursday football discussion. So try not to get all worked up about the use of the word "defection." I'm not suggesting they all vanished in the night. When I mentioned a leave rate I was just referring to any player who left due to injuries, dismissal, transfer, etc. I can go back and research every case, but I'm pretty sure a majority of the players left on their own accord due to injury concerns or other personal reasons.......Regardless, the data from Catch 5 shows that other schools have suffered far worse attrition rates over a three year period. By the way, thanks Catch 5 for posting all that data!! Puts this all in better context.
Thanks for the feedback guys. I would be interested to see what the average departure rate is for SEC schools..... I guess I was just really stunned by 2010 when about 50% of kids left. Obviously a lot of turmoil happened at Ohio State, but I was still surprised more didn't stick around. Oh well, at least 2013 class has remained solid.