I look at the coming season as more of a foundation year for the following year and beyond. I think this is a solid group of freshmen coming in and hopefully there will be some staying power with them. They are not like a Kentucky or Duke class and that is ok. All I am really hoping for is hope for the future.
Don't kid yourself. The NCAA is not going to do anything close to the death penalty to an iconic basketball program like UNC.
And can anyone explain why the ram or goat mascot has anything to do with Tarheels? I get the basics of the suspected origins of the tarheel moniker which some say dates back to Revolutionary War times or at least to the Civil War. But the animal thing just doesn't make any sense. In any case I would love it if UNC comes out as the goat in all of this.
Can anyone say Doug Etzler?
You kind of knew that we were in trouble in 1994-95 when that little fellow from tiny Convoy Crestview was the leading scorer.
I applaud a strong non-conference schedule change. I can see the merits of prepping the young team for a tough B1G schedule.
But in a way the timing seems a bit odd to me. Stronger teams have had lots of pre conference schedule soft foods while this team will seemingly go heavy on the meat.
I think at this point I would rather have a solid defensive player that averages 12 PPG and 8 boards than someone who can provide the occasional highlight reel dunk.
I am fairly neutral on Thad Matta. I understand the complaints of some folks at times but at the same time one simply cannot argue with the B1G titles, the 4 straight Sweet 16's, and 2 Final 4's. The other thing that is indisputable is that to date there hasn't been any one sniffing around finding impropriety with the basketball program. There is a lot to be said for integrity. Plus, for those who want his head, whom do you suggest as his replacement?
He is a steal in the 4th round. I hate the Steelers but they do seem to draft Buckeyes which is more that we can say for the Browns or Bungles
Our history with one and done's other than in 2007 is less than stellar. We never seem to have enough players around one and done's to have a great season.
Go back 3, even 2 years ago after coming off a Final 4 and an Elite 8 finish (that could have and should have been a Final 4), would you have said that Ohio State was elite? I dare say that some would have said as much at that time having had a lot of success since 2007. Now coming off the past 2 seasons, I think that the opinion of the program is such that we seem ready to say that OSU is very much a second tier basketball program. That is fine, but I think when there is an admission of a lower standard that it means much easier acceptance of lower results.
The only player I have real issue with this year is Esa Amad. Going to WVU instead of OSU? Really?
I have no clue who starts. There could be a lot of experimentation with combinations with this group and I think the combos are plentiful.
There are some things that strike me (in addition to youth and relative inexperience) such as size (KBD, Loving, Mitchell, Bell, Giddens, Thompson are listed as 6-7 or taller; Lyle, Grandstaff, and even Tate are all listed 6-4 or taller) and some interchangeable parts (with the exception of Harris who is a true PG due to being vertically challenged, Lyle can play two positions, Mitchell can play 3 or 4, KBD seems as much or more of a small forward as he does a power forward, etc.).
Another issue is who leads? Loving certainly doesn't appear to have leadership qualities. They are all young and it is usually the older players who take on that role. This will be an interesting season. I think Thad gets a relatively free pass next year, but the following season will carry some high expectations IMHO.
The VT loss was painful to watch but one of the best things that happened last year. Sometimes the greatest successes are a product of the worst failures. And being honest, after getting whacked by MSU in the B1G Championship, eaten alive by Clemson in the Orange Bowl, and then losing to VT, I thought that the program was quite a ways from winning a B1G title let alone a National Championship.
With the exception of Carmelo Anthony at Syracuse (who had a good supporting cast), does anyone remember many instances where a team with only 1 one and done did well in the NCAA tournament?
Ohio State has never fared very well with only 1 one and done on the team (Koufos, Russell, etc.). Not even Duke has done well with only 1 one and done on its team (see Austin Rivers, Jabari Parker, Kyrie Irving-made Sweet 16 and may have done better but he was hurt that season).
I think history shows that if you can get multiple one and done players, there is a greater chance for a successful season (Ohio State in 2007, Duke this year, Kentucky, etc.). So for my money, unless you have a good team and can add a one and done to help put the team over the hump, it is better to be bringing more than 1 of these players for a season.
Flags and twirlers in TBDBITL, may it never be!
Any college marching band pales in comparison to TBDBITL. Any hire MUST uphold the sacred traditions and excellence that is TBDBITL.
I never want to go to a football game and fail to feel the chills run up and down my spine or not have to repress my unmanly emotions during the ramp entrance followed by the Buckeye Battle Cry!
Not a big fan of your vernacular but I agree with the sentiment and for that reason, I up voted you.
I reserve down votes for those comments that are irrational or just plain stupid. DV just because you can is thoughtless and ignorant.
Bill Self has a national title that kind of helps, don't you think?
Jay Wright? Kind of hard to defend him.
How about Gene Keady? Purdue tolerated a lot of NCAA tournament mediocrity and kept him around until he couldn't effectively do a comb-over.
It may have taken Coach K 11 years but he had 4 Final 4's (86,88,89,90) prior to winning it all in '91. And I think it is safe to say that Thad is no Coach K.
I am pretty neutral when it comes to Matta. To a Thad supporter I would say that he can't really afford another sub-par season without being on somewhat of a hot seat. At the very least, next year has to be a promise of good things to come in the very near future. To a detractor, it is easy to defend his record and 4 Final 4's and also ask the question as to his replacement.
You can' take away 109 wins in 4 years. That is an average of 27+ wins a season.
But their first two seasons they were more of supporting cast members on successful teams. The last two seasons seems to suggest that they were better suited for that type of role. When it was up to them to lead and assume the mantle of carrying the program forward, the results were 2 very average seasons.
Ohio State is in a state of flux for 2015-16. Five seniors are leaving, and if D'Angelo Russell declares for the NBA Draft as expected, the Buckeyes will have to replace 66.3 percent of this team's minutes. Next year could be ugly, and other programs in Ohio are suited to pick up if Ohio State suffers a downturn.
Setting the stage for another "ugly" sub-par season which could be worse than the last 2 seasons? And it could be worse if Loving leaves as many have speculated. He doesn't give the appearance of being able to lead a young team anyway with his demeanor.
If this is the case and another painful season is endured, next year better be a foundation year where it is apparent that a young squad has a lot of promise and that this basketball program is on the brink of a return to B1G contender/Sweet 16 status for 2017 with solid recruiting classes on the horizon.
Let's face it, OSU's tournament fate was sealed thanks to a lackluster regular season in which the Buckeyes played their way into a 10 seed and sealed a round of 32 date with a 2 seed which happened to be a stacked Arizona team. Was it too low of a seed? Probably. But they gave the committee an excuse to make them such a low seed.
With just a couple of weeks to go the Buckeyes were ranked 23 and it looked like they would be a 5-6 seed which would have been more favorable. But they whimpered at the end and have only themselves to blame for being in such an unfavorable position.
Watching basketball. What else?
I understand the comments about Boeheim and I agree with some of the points. I am not a huge Boeheim fan. He seems like a bit of a curmudgeon to me.
True, there have been some mixed bag results in the NCAA tournaments over the years. Syracuse has had its moments of underachievement in the Big Dance.
But at the same time this is a guy who was a National runner up 2x and took his team to a Final 4 in four different decades. That is quite an accomplishment. Maybe you are too young to remember but the Orange lost a heartbreaker to IU in the 87 title game on a last second falling away jumper by Keith Smart. Would 2 national titles changed opinions about Boeheim? Probably.
I only hope that Matta brings us a National Title which we haven't had in 55 years and two more Final 4's before he goes.
Yeah I have lived in Findlay for 10 years and I don't remember a Skyline during that time. Maybe it was before that time.
Doesn't look good on paper. But stranger things have happened.
KBD acts like he wants to play and be the man to take the big shot. He doesn't look like the kind that will shy away from adversity or pressure. And he has the wingspan of an albatross.