The list of possible replacements shouldn't be limited to Archie Miller even though he is high on the list. How about what Steve Wojciechowski has done in 2 years at Marquette? Will Wade at VCU is an attractive option as well. And would Steve Alford ever come back to the B1G?
That's a lot of talent...and a lot of waiting for players accustomed to playing time and more immediate gratification.
I won't be surprised to see a transfer after this season.
I didn't DV it but the trend towards decline can't be denied. This makes 4 subpar years in a row and the past 2 have been nearly unwatchable. Fans just don't have confidence that Thad is the man anymore. That's the business and I think Thad knows that as well as anyone.
I know if I was in the top 10 salary wise nationwide in my field and had 4 mediocre years that I would get the boot. Granted it isn't apples to apples. But to whom much is given much is required.
Archie can bring along Jughead and Veronica if he wants to
Thad in the ACC?
I don't think so.
Defense used to be the calling card of Ohio State basketball under Thad Matta.
Now it is more like a free lunch card for opposing offenses, even in a very mediocre B1G.
Well said, JPF.
And another big difference, Bo Ryan "quit while he was ahead" and kind of left fans wanting more,
Thad would've have had to quit after 2013 if he wanted to leave fans wanting more. Instead, the program has declined and is a mere shadow of what it was with fans ready for him to hit the road.
And don't forget about Esa Ahmad at WVU. He might not be up to par with the Kennards of the group but he would have been a welcome addition to this team.
If the football team was this bad and in a state of decline for 4 straight years it would not be tolerated.
Why should The Ohio State University and it's fans have to tolerate this in basketball?
I pretty much abandoned the NCAA tournament idea a long time ago. 4-1 would only make this team 19-12 and 9-9 in the league. They didn't even get a sniff last year at 11-7. And oh by the way, it looks like the B1G at best would only get 1 team in the top 16 seeds per a recent ESPN article (not that I always listen to what ESPN has to say) if the tournament started today. I am hoping to get an NIT bid at this point.
I assume the rationale is that we have had several close games in the B1G this year and with a good player or three to go with the multitude of role and MAC caliber players Thad has assembled, we could be 8-5 in the league instead of 5-8. Even if we were 8-5 in the league we still would be a middling team and on a national level, we would be far from elite.
I tip my hat to Mr. Cox for wanting to be at Ohio State. I wish him well and hope that he can end up like some of the more recent walk-ons who earned a scholarship.
But as a parent with a child ready to go to college next year, as much as I am a diehard Buckeye, I would not be happy if my kid passed on a scholarship offer to play at Toledo or YSU to walk-on at Ohio State. Maybe they are in a different financial condition than me.
Maybe they should've had that emotion against UM in 92 since they lost to them in the regional final.
Baylor football and basketball got too good too quick for something scummy not to be happening.
Thad neutrality has been my mantra until this year as I could see arguments on both sides. I read where people say he should have opportunity to right the ship. I don't think we can risk giving him that opportunity only to see failure persist. If it is a talent issue and the wrong players/attitudes that is on Thad.
It admittedly isn't an apples to apples comparison, but who among us could see our job performance continually spiral downward for 4 years and still be employed, regardless of how well we did in the past? And my guess is none of us are making Thad's money either.
I think desperation time kicked in about the time of the FAU loss.
8 comments since posted almost 3 hours ago. Does no one care anymore what Thad says about this team?
I hate to disagree but I just don't see how this program can afford another 2 years in the same trajectory. I think Gene Smith made the message clear: right the ship/win games, put rear ends in the seats. It hasn't happened and there is just no indication that it is going to in the near future.
There the 2 seed Buckeyes were, in the Elite 8 at the end of the 2013 season, poised for a repeat trip to the Final 4 against 9 seed Wichita State, but played really bad for about 3/4 of the game. When they finally decided to play it was too late to make up for lost time and the result was a 70-66 Shocker (pun intended).
Even though there is nothing at all wrong with an Elite 8 season, I don't think the program or the coach has ever been right since that game. Momentum was lost and has never been regained on the hardwood and with the exception of Russell, recruiting has been nothing short of MAC-like. I have always wondered if back to back Final 4's would have yielded a different result.
To whom much is given, much is required.
The loss to Kentucky stung as much as any football loss ever as well.
That Kentucky loss should never have happened to what was the best team in college basketball that year. And why Diebler didn't get to take the last shot of the game will always be mysterious to me.
Scarlet, I have to agree. It seems to come down to 1-1 basketball and often late in the shot clock with a lot of standing around.
I would make each player make 8 of 10 FT in a row before leaving practice.
Belle, I was a Bengals fan from 1975. I stuck with them through thick and thin: Homer Rice, Shulà, you name it I was there. 41 long years. But the playoff debacle of the 15-16 season just did me in. I just don't care anymore and don't want any Buckeye to experience firsthand the misery I have experienced from a distance. But at least they would make big money doing so!
I just don't wish the Bengals or Browns on any Buckeye drafted. The Browns are quite a long way from being relevant and the window on the Bengals is closing under the curse of Mike Brown and Marvin Lewis.