Getting rid of Thad is like getting rid of someone in your company that you like but has seen his better days of productivity. You appreciate the past contributions but deep down you know it's the best for the long term.
Did anyone actually clock him?
Was he really fast or was he just running with a bunch of slow white guys?
Is anyone else bothered by the statement about the gaps between Weber and McCall/Dobbins and then Williams?
LeCharles Bentley would restore nasty to Ohio State's offensive line.
Hey, one can always wish, right?
I feel guilty saying this but if it isn't something like a 22-7 regular season, I hope it is 7-22. Anything in between that garners a first round loss in the NCAA will likely be seen as improvement and a step towards restoration. Feel free to DV such a poor sentiment. But that is where I am after the past 4 years of decline.
One word: CRUEL
9 of the 11 ahead of OSU have won at least 1 national title and 9 of the 13 below them have won at least 1 national title since the Glory days of Fred Taylor back in the 60's. In about 50 years since that time OSU has been to only 3 Final Four's...2 officially. To me any measurement that discounts tournament success isn't much of a measurement at all.
I don't get the wait either. But now he has missed out on the guy that seemed to be the consensus favorite in Archie Miller who would have leapt at the chance to come to Ohio State. Good for Archie.
Interestingly enough. a lot of my B1G friends from other teams told me years ago that Thad wasn't an X and O guy and that if he didn't recruit stars he would be in trouble. I balked at the idea but I guess they weren't too far off the mark.
St John Arena used to really rock it once Eldon Miller left. Back in the days when Gary Williams coached it was a fairly exciting brand of ball and the team played really hard and the crowd responded in that old place.
The last home game I attended was during Aaron Craft's senior year. That alone was a difficult game to watch even though they ended up winning. I might not even have gone then except my daughter attended Craft's high school and got her picture taken with him a few years back at a local event.
I am not going to drive almost 2 hours, plop down good money for tickets, parking, gas and food costs just to sit in an arena that is like a mausoleum with a lot of disinterested fans watching a horrible product. Put a competitive and exciting team on the floor that shows some heart and promise and my family will come back. But not before then.
Expectations should be huge and should be fought for by fans and Athletic department staff.
I couldn't agree more about the expectations for next season. But my guess is if there are any established expectations, they are fairly modest, i.e. just make the NCAA tournament.
If Gene Smith settled for mediocrity, generously called, for 4 straight years, then he would be ecstatic with a 5th or 6th place finish in the B1G and an 8-9 seed in the NCAA.
A national runner up is a great achievement.
I thought that Ohio State was only a football school.
Kind of surprised Groce wasn't successful with the Illini.
But this is a good hire. SFA was impressive in the NCAA a couple of years ago.
Dream Hire? I don't think it is limited to Archie Miller, especially since he won't be around to hire next season.
One name I don't recall hearing much about is Chris Mack from Xavier. You think that guy doesn't know how to coach and get a lot from his players? How about Kermit Davis from Middle Tennessee State? His teams are well coached and have won consecutive first round games as lower seeded teams. I think most Ohio State fans would take that about now. He seems to know how to win.
Will Wade? What about Coach Wojo from Marquette? He has good coaching bloodlines and has done wonders in just a couple of seasons. Don't count out, but don't count on Chris Collins. If he stays at NW, his thinking probably is NW can be the Duke of the Midwest. And Duke will be looking for a new coach in the not too distant future since K is 70.
My point is, I think there are other quality options out there other than Archie Miller.
I think a lot of people, myself included, have tried to maintain a position of neutrality regarding Thad up to this point, even though it sure seemed the program wasn't trending in the right direction. After all, down years are bound to happen to most programs.
But down years for quality programs don't usually mean 4 straight years of decline (I am not in the camp that says the 2013 season was a bad year as an Elite 8 season is pretty good in my thinking), don't normally translate into only 1 NCAA tourney win in 4 years, 2 straight missed NCAA tournaments, losing in the first round of the NIT one year and the embarrassment of not even being invited to the NIT the following year. That should be unacceptable at Ohio State.
Everyone says that Ohio State isn't a blue-blood basketball program. That is being proven year in and year out at this point. The University, does, however, pay its coach blue blood program type money. More is rightfully expected because there isn't anything close to a respectable return on investment.
A top 10 paid coach should yield results commensurate with that compensation. Not saying that down years wouldn't occur. Neither am I saying that 2-3 tourney wins would be expected every year. But serious contention for the Final 4 should be expected every 4-5 years.
Fact is, OSU which I think we would all agree is not a blue blood program pays blue blood program money for what are generously called mediocre results
If the jury was still out, maybe. But Thad isn't exactly in the coffin just yet.
Most merciful Father, please forbid this NIT bid from coming to pass so that thy servants may have rest from suffering.
If not, please grant massive cable and satellite failures to prevent further trials, exasperation, and temptation to transgress as a result of watching these created beings lose yet again. Amen.
Thad looks like the perfect example of blaming failure on everyone and everything else. Then when the well of excuses runs totally dry, further dismissing personal accountability by saying the situation isn't that important in the big scheme of things.
Thad's comments almost seem delusional. Maybe Izzo's defense a few weeks ago went to his head.
Yes , I am laughing RU B1G.
WE JUST LOST TO RUTGERS !!
This just in...Braxton Beverly says he meant to say that he is going to Ohio Dominican, not Ohio State.
Gene Smith is in a class all by himself. He has to feel like a complete fool right now.
Good call Gene. I thought he was smarter than this.
Gene Smith. A cult of one!
You must be going back to his days at West Point?