One of many factors ... learning is key, but there are always a few with the attitude "I've made it to the top (& my millions)...I don't have to bust my A$$ anymore." Injuries, being in the right system for the player's skills, and things none of us have ever considered.
Google the Browns' owner, and read a little bit about him. Maybe he's messin' up the Browns to get a tax write off.
This will be good for recruiting, & with Powell & Marshall NOT getting drafted, good for retention as well. Teach 'em to at least talk things over with a coaching staff that loves 'em...
In that case, don't forget Jeremy Cash, who transferred out in '11 & went to Duke.
RE: "...business called the NFL."
Especially when you remember NFL stands for Not For Long. In 9 seasons in GB, he led the team in tackles five times...
...Marcus Hall will never be a forgotten name in Ohio...
I've seen Ephesians 6 summed up as Know thine enemy and his schemes...seems fitting here.
At this time, I'll only add that 2001 was JT's first year, not 2002.... (taken from Bucknuts or 24/7 sports)
* LB/DE/TE Redgie Arden, Ironton (Oh.)
* WR Angelo Chattams, Dayton (Oh.) Chaminade-Julienne
* OL Ryan Cook, Martinsville (Ind.)
* DB Dustin Fox, Canton (Oh.) GlenOak
* DE Simon Fraser, Upper Arlington (Oh.)
* WR Chris Gamble, Ft. Lauderdale (Fla.) Dillard
* DL Marcus Green, Louisville (Ky.) Male
* RB Maurice Hall, Columbus (Oh.) Brookhaven
* TE Ryan Hamby, Cincinnati (Oh.) Moeller
* K Mike Nugent, Centerville (Oh.)
* OL Adam Olds, Dublin (Oh.) Coffman
* RB JaJa Riley, San Diego (Calif.) Mission Bay
* RB Lydell Ross, Tampa (Fla.) Gaither
* FB Brandon Schnittker, Sandusky (Oh.) Perkins
* WR Chris Vance, Ft. Scott (Kan.) CC
Comments: New OSU head coach Jim Tressel did a fine job of picking up the pieces after being hired to replace John Cooper with just a few short weeks left in the recruiting season. The class was looking shaky in early January but wound up being rated in the top 20 nationally. Tressel was able to keep two players who were wavering -- All-American Dustin Fox and four-star receiver Angelo Chattams -- as well as add a handful of fine prospects in January in Gamble, Green, Hall, Nugent, and Ross. Ross in particular was viewed as a major out-of-state coup. The top players from this class ironically turned out to be two of the lesser-publicized players -- Gamble and Nugent. Fox lived up to his billing and Fraser, Green, Hall, Hamby, and Schnittker became either starters or solid contributors for the Buckeyes. Vance produced well in his first season but had a bit of a rough senior year both on and off the field. Arden was a very highly-rated prospect but battled a series of injury and off-the-field incidents at OSU. Cook and Riley transferred early in their careers while Olds was forced to give up his career due to injury. In Ohio, the Buckeyes lost defensive ends Pat Massey (Cleveland St. Ignatius) and Pierre Woods (Cleveland Glenville) to Michigan and prior commitment Brandon McKinney (Dayton C-J) to Michigan State, but Arden, Chattams, Fraser, Fox, and Hall were all viewed as top 10 players in the state.
Someone? We don't call 'em BSPiN for nothin' you know...
Bo may have been 5-4-1, but it was the first of those 5 that made him. That & his whining. Look at what happened to him from 72-75...
Hey now...let's not forget we have wrestlers going now too, the medal rounds are going...NATO won 3rd, and Bo Jordan will be coming up here shortly.
ESPN GO has a cam on each mat. Just watched NATO beat scUM 125 guy 10-1.
We'll have to all agree to disagree & move on. Otherwise this gets to be an ugly, useless argument. The Beauty Contest method continues, and that makes CFB Playoffs a waste of time, and for BSPiN, a waste of money. Hopefully it wastes enough $$ that it takes 'em under.
Watching the attached vid, did he wear #16 for a game for some reason? (I was in Germany that year and didn't get to see/read a lot about Buckeye Football)
I don't think the OP was saying lower your goals & expectations. Whereas 20 years ago, I always expected Coop to find a way to LOSE a game, with JT & now CUFM, I expect the opposite; for them to figure out a way to win a game we'd have a good chance of losing. Goals and expectations do not take into account all the things that go wrong, trying to figure how an oblong ball is going to bounce. Our goal, as always, is to win 'em all..."In our quest for perfection, we shall achieve excellence." And when EXCELLENT isn't enough, IMHO, that is a personal problem.
The only one of those that matters is the last one.
MAN...someone tell this guy he needs to drink more MILK... Eat Wonderbread (builds your body 12 ways)...DANG.
Lack of focus...maybe if the guys were worried more about their opponents than their tweets and asking for dates with stars, they could get back to business. Priorities, gentlemen, priorities...worry about that other stuff in February.
Before the Rose Bowl, we only got to see one Ohio State game in Monterey, Cal that year...on the 22nd of November.
Hmmm...I wonder if either the Boren family or the Bosa family have any females...and if so, can we work out some introductions?
Dabbled with this a few years ago. The media guide had a link to the all time list of assistant coaches at Ohio State. Woody had 41 assistants just in Columbus. I'm having a more difficult time with information from Miami, Denison, or his High School coaching days. I'm thinking that would require a personal visit to the school and a look at the program's archives.
I liked scarlet better, and being in Phoenix, I'd only get to wear the black for a couple months out of the year...NEXT year, with NINE, the shirt would be dated... : )