I wonder if the a$$hats in the other thread, who were berating CK and accusing him of favoritism (without hearing this side of the story), will man-up and say they were wrong.
My impression of the people in this thread who keep bringing up "da sissufacashion" or "pussafacasheeeyun" of 'MURICA in this thread. These "men: (MURICA! USA! USA! USA!) can barely keep their smokeless tobacco from escaping the gaps in their three teeth (total) during their spittle-inducing rage-out, over CK.
Sheesh.. what a bunch of Neanderthals in here. Instead of resorting to extremely painful measures, just call a company that will remove them without killing them. Or alternatively, have some who IS physically able, implement the plan of having one exit (i.e. the window), and making sure they all leave.
Poison? BURNING alive? WTF is wrong with you hilljacks? Oh wait.. I answered my own question.
In my opinion, Michigan will not go back on their pricing, and in fact, I think all of the "big-time" programs will shift towards seat-licensing and even more pronounced commercialization (referring to Beyonce and the like). Even with the dip in ticket sales, the fact is that a new generation will come up who has never known differently, and they will buy the tickets. Whether they be students and/or corporate entities, is beyond me, but this generational adaptation period is how it always seems to go.
He really doesn't give a crap.
Oh, and "field fairy" just happens to be one of the best in the world, at playing one of the most difficult sports in the world. If you can't appreciate his pace and skill displayed against Spain...
We'll get out of the group stage, against nearly everyone's predictions. This team is a heck of a lot better than most think; it's the most well-conditioned USA squad I've seen. That counts for plenty, when trying to neutralize superior talent.
Plus.. Portugal is so over-rated (not because they lack talent), that it's absurd to think the USA won't just beat them, but will hammer them. Maybe 2-0 or 3-1.
A few things...
1) I completely agree with your sentiment of Lacrosse. It's an awesome sport, which I thought was extremely popular in Ohio (but moreso on in the east). I graduated HS a loooong time ago, but even then Lacrosse was a big deal (in Columbus). I didn't play the sport, but I watched our men's team quite often.
2) I'd put money on the idea that most of the guys here get winded after lifting their Taco-Hell/Wendy's/McFatty meals to their respective greasy mouths. They likely have no concept of the work-ethic it takes to play any sport, much less one which demands great skill AND athleticism (e.g. Lacrosse)
3) Too many people are dismissive of women's sports, and for that matter, how athletic women can be. In the vein of point#2, I'd be willing to bet that most of the guys on this site would be humiliated in an athletic competition with the average D1 women's Lacrosse player.
Loga, your reading comprehension is subpar, and I have a feeling you just want to pontificate on that point, alone. Do me a favor.. stop being an asshole. I DID NOT say UM is a subpar coach. I also said Coach Tressel is as well. Just that simple.
"Slimy"? One of his biggest detractors, has become one of his most staunch supporters. As MoC said (paraphrasing), you just can't fake that kind of sincerity for a whole career.
Yes, Urban is a "straight-shooter", much in the vein of Dubya. Although, I daresay UM is just a bit smarter.
My point is that being a -perceived- straight-shooter, doesn't mean much in terms of winning, and being a decent person. Of course, that might not matter to you.
National titles.. at FLORIDA. Re-read my post. I essentially said OSU is a different "animal", and that I want to see what he does here.
Coach Tressel's track-record isn't bad either (or maybe it is to you.. I don't know) Oh, and Coach Tressel has more than two titles, if you're counting that as the end-all.
Hey, what did you want from Coach Tressel? Dickhead-talk.. such as UM recently when he spoke of "breaking" people (if he wanted to do so), during his initial season here?
I don't get it.. people here seem to think that UM's coaching "style" (whatever that encompasses) is much better than Tressel's, without enough of a sample size (of games) from which to judge. For me, Coach Tressel's demeanor, and empahsis on special teams and defense was far preferable to UMs corporate-asshole style. Sheesh.. some of you remind me of weak-minded women who only go for jerks.
Undeniably, UM is a proven commodity.. but that was at Florida. Let's see what he does here, before damning his predecessor as "inferior".
ps- To the downvoters.. you only prove me right.
That quote could have just as well come from Coach Tressel. Interesting.
1) You profess to enjoy Meyer's frank nature, and then say he seems fake. Umm.. ???
2) Wrong. I care about more than wins and losses, concerning a team I don't even play on, despite enjoying and supporting it. College football may exist wearing only the thinnest veil of propriety, but honor and integrity (within a specific contexts here) still matter to me. See, some of us have more to look forward to in life, than living vicariously through the lives of high-school and college athletes. Really.. there's more out there. Please, don't beat your dog or wife, or stick your schlong into a blender, if we lose. And please don't try to shoot a family member (reference: an ALABAMA fan years ago).
3) Tressel and Bruce will be remembered for far more than their records. Ramzy has already done one piece on Coach Tressel, that should give even the most jaded weasel some pause, before blindly ESPiNing him. (Look it up.. Google is fun)
Why would you ask something like that?
Urban is a great coach, fantastic motivator, and I'd imagine a potentially elite CEO. He is a 'winner', and seems to have transformed the business of OSU football to a successful model (internally). It's good for the university, in terms of recognition and money garnered; it's good for the fans, who live almost exclusively for Buckeye victories, and of course it's good for the young men who put in so much effort to be a part of a D1 football team (especially at OSU), and get to enoy the spoils of an elite program.
All that being said, I'm going to state something unpopular: I don't like Urban as a person. I know I know.. it doesn't really matter for the "bottom line", but to me, there isn't much of a difference between him and Saban. Both are ruthless, and have the personalities of a corporate-dickhead. (Yes, I am one of those "anti-establishment" types, he likes to label) The fact that he even brought up having the ability to "break" someone, was wrong, IMO. Why do it? Ego, much?
So, I'll say it.. I'll take Tressel, tattoo-gate and all, even if it means less wins. In comparing the two characters, I'd say one actually cares a lot more about people (on and off the field), and the other cares only so mcuh as it affects "business".
Apples and oranges. Not many people (if any at all) would be entertained by watching you work, or use your likeness to generate money. Regardless, I get you, and agree that the scholarship plus other benefits should be more than enough. I am opposed to compensating college players any more than they already are, for their service of entertaining us.
Then, as someone in this thread has mentioned, let them avoid the falsehood of naming themselves "student-athletes", by going to a pro team. There are plenty of professional football leagues in the States, outside of the NFL. Let those leagues serve as farm-teams.
And what you're saying is flawed, in any case. How do you know which athletes to value the most, outside of the obvious ones (e.g. a Braxton Miller, or Joey Bosa)? You're telling me that those on the opposite end of that scale (i.e. the perpetual practice team players) are making "profit" for the university?
And then what of the other pitfalls others here have mentioned, that come with going down this path? There are so many, and they WILL come.. it's just a matter of time, once the ball gets rolling. Everything from player-unions to the inevitable death (or marginalization) of college football, for many smaller programs who simply cannot compete.
Kmp10, I up-voted you for two reasons: 1) That was one of the most well-constructed posts I have seen on these forums; it's refreshing to read a piece that presents an argument which begs for an in-depth diatribe, and delivers. 2) I concur with your opinion. I had to win fellowships, and write for grants, to receive my degrees. I would love to have had the opportunity to play a D-ANYTHING sport (NAIA included), and receive a full-ride, regardless of the time commitment. But then again, I value education above most.
I grew up in C-bus, went to OSU, and root for any team from Ohio, when it doesn't conflict with OSUs fortunes. So I am completely with your sentiments! Well said.
On a different subject.. I don't know what it is with some people.. but is it necessary to start off your post with a ridiculous stereotype? Just sayin'...
Let's see.. he's over-rated. Hmm.. one of the best defenders in B10 history, along with being first in steals, and fifth in assists, in B10 history.
What's over-rated, is your ability to make a cogent argument. Troll.
But you are saying it's his fault. Make up your mind.. troll. Or wait.. being schizo, according to whatever is oppositional, is your job.
It's like some of you haven't watched a game, this year. Craft constantly called his teammates into a huddle to give a quick pep-talk, especially after a tough play or stretch. I saw him do this EVERY game I watched. (Admittedly, I didn't get to see all of the games, this season) Furthermore, his play on the court, proved that he is a leader. I don't know what more one could want...
As for your hyperbole.. I can only speak for myself; I have no problem with Slam or Q. However, Amir seems not to care about basketball, and that has naught to do with Craft, or for that matter, Matta. What more could Crafty do? Tazer him after every lazy play? WTH.. you think Tom Brady or Peyton Mannning could have been better with motivating Amir? What.. should we bring in Tony Robbins? For anyone to say it's ACs fault, that others played poorly (which is subjective, anyway), is just slovenly analysis. It's typical dumb talk from typical fans. This is 11W.. try to rise above that.
Craft was a poor leader?
Really? I mean.. REALLY?
Just like the sky is not blue.. and Obama is a Swedish blonde.
Awesome. Indeed, MJ is not even close to Aaron Craft, in many areas. (As a decent human being, I know which one I rate higher)
He’s undersized and not supremely athletic
Kyle, love the article, and I appreciate your words concerning one of my favorite all-time Buckeyes. But, I am just flabbergasted by the above comment (and don't think you are the only one who says as much). AC is 6'2", around 200, and has world class athleticism. In my opinion, he's a better athlete than Slam, even if he can't jump out of the gym. His strength, power, lateral quickness and first-step are amazing. (Why do you think he's one of the best defenders ever to lace-up for tOSU?) Add in his "intangibles", which play into his athleticism, and you have someone who can play on any college team, in any area, and contribute as a star. Granted, he is a defensive star (whose offense is way too maligned, IMO), but an elite, none-the-less.
I believe his athleticism translates well across sports, as well, FWIW.